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riotgibbon  
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 More options 8 Jul 2008, 15:32
From: riotgibbon <tobysev...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 07:32:50 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues 8 Jul 2008 15:32
Subject: Re: Wasting your time !
where to start!

now, I'm no royalist, but Prince Phillip has been driving electric
cars for at least 25 years - http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg13217926.500-feedback-.html

and his missus is installing a hydroelectric genny in a river near her
gaffe - http://www.sloughobserver.co.uk/articles/1/3473

and walk into any Maplin and see where all the solar panels are made.
Solar panels, coal-fired stations, those Chinese love it all, bless
'em

see you when the country is on it's knees

On Jul 5, 1:43 am, annonymou...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Well, I'm sorry to say but I really think this carbon footprint stuff
> is just another "feel good" stunt being pulled by the government for
> one reason or another.  I certainly cant do my job without using my
> car on a daily basis so I'm not going to worry about it.  Public
> transport just doesn't offer what I need, it doesn't go where I need
> it to, its to risky to use with what I have to carry, and it would
> certainly be more expensive.

> The way i see it is like this::

> The governmment want everyone to use publc transport?  Why do we have
> one of the worse public transport systems in europe?  Buses produce
> more polution per person than an average family car, the government
> also want to encourage people ontto trains and trams, where do you
> think the electric comes from to run electric trains?  It comes from
> the power stations that burn fossile fuels to generate it, so really
> it makes no difference because if you give up your car you are still
> liable for carbon emissions its just that you are probably unaware of
> the end result.

> Also, if this current government were really bothered about the
> subject of climate change and using personal transport, do you not
> think they would offer some real incentives to change to hybrid
> drives?  Such as serious tax deductions or perhaps even cash
> incentives, and do you also not think that they could set an example
> by running these types of vehicle if they are so good for the
> environment?  Lets start with Tony two jags .... or even the queen,
> where are their hybrid vehicles? eh? In the garage?  Not on your life,
> they probably wouldn't even know what a hybrid drive looks like if it
> bit them on the backside.

> Another thing that makes me think its a waste of time is that china
> are building a coal fired power station at the rate of about 1 every 3
> weeks or something like that.  Now these chinese people are quite
> clever, so why are they not utilising solar power?  More to the point
> why aren't we?  Why is it that you have to apply for planning
> permission to erect a small wind turbine on your property or install
> solar panels on your roof if you are trying to do your bit for the
> environment?  The system to me seems all wrong, or maybe its just
> plain old corruption and someones pocket is getting lined with some
> serious cash.  There certainly seems to be something going a miss or
> the true facts are being hidden inside a bundle of statistics.

> America is another country with double standards, the yanks are
> jumping up and down about having to pay approximately £2.50 per gallon
> for petrol.  They should try living over here for 6 months, that would
> shut them up.  Those of you who are sitting here reading this thinking
> that high fuel costs are doing their bit to save the planet, I would
> like to ask if you have ever though of the repercussions of these
> actions?  Probably not.  The cost of delivering goods to the
> supermarket will rise, costs of delivering goods to your door after
> 'online shopping' will rise, delivering you post will rise, taxi fares
> from A to B .... will rise, the cost of your annual week in the
> sun ..... will rise.  Do you see where this is going?  Sooner than you
> think no-one will be able to do anything because of the sheer cost of
> getting it done or going from here to there,  and how long do you
> think it will be before people will start  losing their jobs because
> of the cost of deliveries into and out of the workplace, or perhaps
> the cost of providing a service like the washing machine repair man?

> Personally I cant wait for the nimby's and do-gooders to bring this
> country to its knees, then i'm going to run around saying "I told you
> so" whilst living on unemployment benefit because I cant afford to use
> my car for work.


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