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Chris Read  
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 More options 11 Feb 2006, 21:09
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From: "Chris Read" <chris...@btinternet.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:09:42 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sat 11 Feb 2006 21:09
Subject: Choc off

Has anyone else noticed, *all* of the chocolate vending machines on Tube
platforms, certainly in zone 1, have been taken out of use. Anyone know why?
My best guess is that the company which services/restocks them has ceased
trading.

The problem with the present business model for vending machines, is that
the machines have become *too* reliable. Going back 20 years (remembering
childhood trips with grandparents who liked to spoil me), the machines were
programmed to 'eat the money but not dispense the product' for one in three
attempts. It was like a cruel lottery, but the profit margins must have been
good.

Chris

(ps on a choccy theme, Whistlestop, at various London terminals, are now the
only stockists I can find for the elusive plain chocolate Bounty bar.)


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Paul Corfield  
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 More options 11 Feb 2006, 22:23
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From: Paul Corfield <aoo...@dsl.pipex.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:23:04 +0000
Local: Sat 11 Feb 2006 22:23
Subject: Re: Choc off
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:09:42 +0000 (UTC), "Chris Read"

<chris...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>Has anyone else noticed, *all* of the chocolate vending machines on Tube
>platforms, certainly in zone 1, have been taken out of use. Anyone know why?

I don't but I intend to ask at work on Monday.  I haven't seen any
announcements.

>My best guess is that the company which services/restocks them has ceased
>trading.

As it is Cadburys that service and stock them I think we'd have heard if
they'd gone bust!

There could be a huge range of issues as to why every machine has had to
be switched off.  I'm not aware that the drinks machines - part of the
same contract - have been switched off so perhaps there is a specific
issue with the chocolate machines themselves.  I'll see if I can an
answer on Monday.
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Helen Deborah Vecht  
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 More options 11 Feb 2006, 22:16
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From: Helen Deborah Vecht <helenve...@zetnet.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:16:16 GMT
Local: Sat 11 Feb 2006 22:16
Subject: Re: Choc off
"Chris Read" <chris...@btinternet.com>typed

> Has anyone else noticed, *all* of the chocolate vending machines on Tube
> platforms, certainly in zone 1, have been taken out of use. Anyone know why?
> My best guess is that the company which services/restocks them has ceased
> trading.
> The problem with the present business model for vending machines, is that
> the machines have become *too* reliable. Going back 20 years (remembering
> childhood trips with grandparents who liked to spoil me), the machines were
> programmed to 'eat the money but not dispense the product' for one in three
> attempts. It was like a cruel lottery, but the profit margins must have been
> good.
> Chris
> (ps on a choccy theme, Whistlestop, at various London terminals, are now the
> only stockists I can find for the elusive plain chocolate Bounty bar.)

I think many are operated by Cadbury who I believe have not ceased trading.

Theye are also good about sending refunds if you report having lost
money. 0800 223879 is the number to ring.

Maybe the machines are being replaced, maybe...

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Chris Tolley  
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 More options 11 Feb 2006, 22:49
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From: Chris Tolley <cj...@supanet.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:49:32 GMT
Local: Sat 11 Feb 2006 22:49
Subject: Re: Choc off

Chris Read wrote:
> The problem with the present business model for vending machines, is
> that the machines have become *too* reliable. Going back 20 years
> (remembering childhood trips with grandparents who liked to spoil
> me), the machines were programmed to 'eat the money but not dispense
> the product' for one in three attempts. It was like a cruel lottery,
> but the profit margins must have been good.

35 years ago, I knew of a vending machine that was rather generous from
time to time. It just dispensed ordinary chocolate bars. However, it was
stuck on a wall in such a position as to get the full afternoon sun in
midsummer. This, of course, meant that the chocolate melted. It also
meant that when your money had gone in the slot and you pulled the tray
out, two melted bars occupied the space of one solid bar.
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tim (in Sweden)  
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 More options 11 Feb 2006, 22:51
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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:51:11 +0100
Local: Sat 11 Feb 2006 22:51
Subject: Re: Choc off

"Helen Deborah Vecht" <helenve...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:313030303736393543EE623013@zetnet.co.uk...

Perhaps they think that they are a terriorist risk!

tim


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simon  
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 More options 11 Feb 2006, 23:38
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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:38:04 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sat 11 Feb 2006 23:38
Subject: Re: Choc off

"Chris Tolley" <cj...@supanet.com> wrote in message

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We had one about the same time that was very generous once and didnt ask for
any money. To a bunch of 13 yr olds this was a delight. A week later we all
had to receive a questioning and lecture from 2 detectives at our local
police station.

It must have been a socially well-connected machine.
Simon


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 More options 11 Feb 2006, 23:47
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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:47:56 GMT
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Subject: Re: Choc off

"tim (in Sweden)" <tim_in_sweden2...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Funnily enough, I was looking forward to a choccy bar at Bristol late last
night ( delayed because the `Murco' split between Wickwar & Charfield ) and
strangely ALL the vending machines have been removed.

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MIG  
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 More options 12 Feb 2006, 00:14
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From: "MIG" <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk>
Date: 11 Feb 2006 16:14:12 -0800
Local: Sun 12 Feb 2006 00:14
Subject: Re: Choc off

My experience is that Cadburys deny any involvement with the machines,
it is just their products that are in them.  Also, the phone number is
a paid one and charges you for waiting but isn't answered.

(The first in answer to a sarcastic letter from me about the legality
of placing such tempting gambling machines in places where young
children are allowed.)

Both these things may have changed, but the history of the machines is
so bad that I wouldn't dream of touching one.


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James Farrar  
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 More options 12 Feb 2006, 09:16
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From: James Farrar <james.s.far...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 09:16:57 +0000
Local: Sun 12 Feb 2006 09:16
Subject: Re: Choc off
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:09:42 +0000 (UTC), "Chris Read"

<chris...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>The problem with the present business model for vending machines, is that
>the machines have become *too* reliable.

Funny that. I gave up using them due to money just being swallowed. As
recently as a couple of weeks ago, I saw a couple of people having the
smae problem (at Oxford Circus I think) and I took to advising people
not to put their money in.

The occasional Coke machines are still working, though.

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Joel Rowbottom  
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 More options 12 Feb 2006, 10:19
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:19:21 +0000
Local: Sun 12 Feb 2006 10:19
Subject: Re: Choc off

Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
> Theye are also good about sending refunds if you report having lost
> money. 0800 223879 is the number to ring.

They've always been pretty good with me - I think my failure rate on
those chocolate machines is probably around 90%.

Taking the best part of 2-3 minutes to vend is a bit of an evil trick
though - you do have to hope the arrival times are reasonably accurate!

Does that *09# trick still work? I *think* it was that anyway, used to
come back with "EVERYTHING OK!" on the machines...

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Joel Rowbottom  
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 More options 12 Feb 2006, 10:24
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From: Joel Rowbottom <use...@fotopic.net>
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:24:01 +0000
Local: Sun 12 Feb 2006 10:24
Subject: Re: Choc off

James Farrar wrote:
> The occasional Coke machines are still working, though.

Never had any success from those either :(

Coke machine: http://nokia.fotopic.net/p8279388.html

Cadbury machine: http://nokia.fotopic.net/p7005745.html

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 More options 12 Feb 2006, 11:13
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:13:25 -0000
Local: Sun 12 Feb 2006 11:13
Subject: Re: Choc off

"Chris Read" <chris...@btinternet.com> wrote in message

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> Has anyone else noticed, *all* of the chocolate vending machines
> on Tube platforms, certainly in zone 1, have been taken out of use.

I don't get the gag in the subject line.... why isn't the thread called
"Chocs away"?

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 More options 12 Feb 2006, 11:16
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:16:21 -0000
Local: Sun 12 Feb 2006 11:16
Subject: Re: Choc off

"Helen Deborah Vecht" <helenve...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:313030303736393543EE623013@zetnet.co.uk...

Most are owned by Cadbury Schweppes. They tried to persuade me to have Coke
& chocolate machines on my stations when I was a Station Manager. I turned
them down because I thought the booking office staff had enough to deal with
without fending off endless complaints from people who lost money in the
machines. Call me a cynic if you want.

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Chris Read  
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 More options 12 Feb 2006, 11:44
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From: "Chris Read" <chris...@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:44:14 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sun 12 Feb 2006 11:44
Subject: Re: Choc off

"John Rowland" <jo...@journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I don't get the gag in the subject line.... why isn't the thread called
> "Chocs away"?

Because if I could come up with witty, relevant thread titles, I'd be
working for a tabloid newspaper and not posting to newsgroups.

Chris


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vellov  
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 More options 12 Feb 2006, 11:29
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:29:24 -0000
Local: Sun 12 Feb 2006 11:29
Subject: Re: Choc off

"Joel Rowbottom" <use...@fotopic.net> wrote in message

< re chocolate machines>

> Does that *09# trick still work? I *think* it was that anyway, used to
> come back with "EVERYTHING OK!" on the machines...

Don't know about *09#, but 110 got the same result. Always good for
reassurance at times of stress, that soothing little message.
v.

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 More options 12 Feb 2006, 11:28
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:28:52 -0000
Local: Sun 12 Feb 2006 11:28
Subject: Re: Choc off

"Joel Rowbottom" <use...@fotopic.net> wrote in message

< re chocolate machines>

> Does that *09# trick still work? I *think* it was that anyway, used to
> come back with "EVERYTHING OK!" on the machines...

Don't know about *09#, but 110 got the same result. Always good for
reassurance at times of stress, that soothing little message.
M

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 More options 12 Feb 2006, 12:30
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 12:30:52 GMT
Local: Sun 12 Feb 2006 12:30
Subject: Re: Choc off

You now tap in 110 and that will bring up the status of the machine.

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 More options 12 Feb 2006, 12:55
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From: Helen Deborah Vecht <helenve...@zetnet.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 12:55:48 GMT
Local: Sun 12 Feb 2006 12:55
Subject: Re: Choc off
"MIG" <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk>typed

> My experience is that Cadburys deny any involvement with the machines,
> it is just their products that are in them.  Also, the phone number is
> a paid one and charges you for waiting but isn't answered.
> (The first in answer to a sarcastic letter from me about the legality
> of placing such tempting gambling machines in places where young
> children are allowed.)
> Both these things may have changed, but the history of the machines is
> so bad that I wouldn't dream of touching one.

0800 is usually free from a landline isn't it?

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 More options 12 Feb 2006, 13:35
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From: "MIG" <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk>
Date: 12 Feb 2006 05:35:10 -0800
Local: Sun 12 Feb 2006 13:35
Subject: Re: Choc off

There wasn't an 0800 number last time I was scammed, nor was there an
email address.

This may all have changed, because it's been a very long time since I
would have dreamed of touching one.


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 More options 12 Feb 2006, 15:09
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:09:31 +0000
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Subject: Re: Choc off
In message <1139703252.612316.168...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, MIG
<googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> writes

>(The first in answer to a sarcastic letter from me about the legality
>of placing such tempting gambling machines in places where young
>children are allowed.)

It may be irritating when you have children in tow but I suspect there's
nothing actually *illegal* about placing them where children might be.
:-)) If there was, then I can't see chocolate sales being allowed
anywhere except some pubs, betting shops, night clubs and casinos!

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 More options 12 Feb 2006, 15:12
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:12:17 +0000
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Subject: Re: Choc off
In message <eposu1pdd2tf4vmcc1sqhlvg63t7ei7...@4ax.com>, Paul Corfield
<aoo...@dsl.pipex.com> writes
>As it is Cadburys that service and stock them I think we'd have heard if
>they'd gone bust!

We've just driven home past the works at Bournville.   I'm happy to
report - in my capacity as West Midlands Correspondent for
uk.transport.london! - that they're still in business!   :-)
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 More options 12 Feb 2006, 15:31
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From: "MIG" <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk>
Date: 12 Feb 2006 07:31:51 -0800
Local: Sun 12 Feb 2006 15:31
Subject: Re: Choc off

Ian Jelf wrote:
> In message <1139703252.612316.168...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, MIG
> <googles...@doreenbird.co.uk> writes
> >(The first in answer to a sarcastic letter from me about the legality
> >of placing such tempting gambling machines in places where young
> >children are allowed.)

> It may be irritating when you have children in tow but I suspect there's
> nothing actually *illegal* about placing them where children might be.
> :-)) If there was, then I can't see chocolate sales being allowed
> anywhere except some pubs, betting shops, night clubs and casinos!

I think that my sarcastic analogy was that these machines made stations
into a gambling arcade, where there would normally be an age limit.
Also, that the use chocolate was particularly targeting children as
potential gamblers.

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 More options 12 Feb 2006, 16:55
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:55:25 +0000
Local: Sun 12 Feb 2006 16:55
Subject: Re: Choc off
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:09:42 +0000 (UTC), "Chris Read"

<chris...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>Has anyone else noticed, *all* of the chocolate vending machines on Tube
>platforms, certainly in zone 1, have been taken out of use. Anyone know why?
>My best guess is that the company which services/restocks them has ceased
>trading.

The one at Northfields Eastbound platforms is still working. The phone
number on it is 0800.

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 More options 12 Feb 2006, 17:21
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 17:21:36 GMT
Local: Sun 12 Feb 2006 17:21
Subject: Re: Choc off
James Farrar <james.s.far...@gmail.com>typed

> On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:09:42 +0000 (UTC), "Chris Read"
> <chris...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> >Has anyone else noticed, *all* of the chocolate vending machines on Tube
> >platforms, certainly in zone 1, have been taken out of use. Anyone
> >know why?
> >My best guess is that the company which services/restocks them has ceased
> >trading.
> The one at Northfields Eastbound platforms is still working. The phone
> number on it is 0800.

0800 CADBURY (2232879) to be precise.

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Alan (in Brussels)  
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 More options 13 Feb 2006, 07:52
Newsgroups: uk.transport.london, uk.railway
From: "Alan \(in Brussels\)" <alanf...@scarlet.vermifuge.be>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 08:52:44 +0100
Local: Mon 13 Feb 2006 07:52
Subject: Re: Choc off
Chris Read wrote:
> "John Rowland" <jo...@journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>> I don't get the gag in the subject line.... why isn't the thread
>> called "Chocs away"?

> Because if I could come up with witty, relevant thread titles, I'd be
> working for a tabloid newspaper and not posting to newsgroups.

If you look in the other thread on this topic, in u.t.l, originally titled
"Underground chocolate machines" , you'll see that I have already changed it
as John suggests ;-)

- Alan (in Brussels)


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