I often have to travel from the far west and north westerly ends of the Picc. and Met. lines to the far reaches of East London and usually change from underground to London Overground at either West Hampstead or Finchley Rd for Finchley Road and Frognal. I've done a search on the TFL site for my particular journey and it now seems that Kilburn (Underground) / Brondesbury (London Overground) is also a valid out of station interchange. I've not seen it on any lists and would like to know if this is indeed the case.
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:47:01 -0800 (PST), Uncle-C <sls...@yahoo.co.uk> > wrote:
>>I often have to travel from the far west and north westerly ends of >>the Picc. and Met. lines to the far reaches of East London and usually >>change from underground to London Overground at either West Hampstead >>or Finchley Rd for Finchley Road and Frognal. I've done a search on >>the TFL site for my particular journey and it now seems that Kilburn >>(Underground) / Brondesbury (London Overground) is also a valid out of >>station interchange. I've not seen it on any lists and would like to >>know if this is indeed the case.
> Yes it is a valid interchange. > -- > Paul C
How do I determine that (and find any other such interchanges)?
what about Shepherds Bush Market (H&C line) a 500m walk to Shepherds Bush (London Overground)?
It used to be an OSI before the SB(Central Line) rebuild (Before SB LO station existed) and now it doesn't count, I was charged for 2 singles on my OysterPAYG. Why when there is no other way to connect H&C with LO in the area?
Odd and annoying, as I ONLY chose that route as it was within the LUL/ LO network, I would have got a bus which would have brought me much closer to my destination and been better value for money! Grrr!
Also, it is incredible that we, the travelling general public, must consult an official, [albeit excellent] blog to check the OSI's.
> > is an example where alternative fares / routes are shown.
> I find it amazing that I have to rummage around on what seems to be > an unofficial blog (even if the data was supplied by Tfl) to find > the OSI list.
Some brought a printout of a spreadsheet showing them to the meet up. I was hoping the spreadsheet would be circulated.
On 11 Nov, 00:02, rosenst...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> Some brought a printout of a spreadsheet showing them to the meet up. I > was hoping the spreadsheet would be circulated.
> -- > Colin Rosenstiel
Perhaps someone can correct me but is the spreadsheet file from way back in Nov 2008 ? There are several other valid OOSIs which have emerged since then; Seven Sisters / South Tottenham being one of them. Is there anywhere we can get hold of a current list or does this entail emailing TFL enquiries and asking them directly ?
In article <b06ac0cd-26a6-40f0-ab6d-9437f06be...@d5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
sls...@yahoo.co.uk (Uncle-C) wrote: > On 11 Nov, 00:02, rosenst...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> > Someone brought a printout of a spreadsheet showing them to the meet > > up. I was hoping the spreadsheet would be circulated.
> Perhaps someone can correct me but is the spreadsheet file from way > back in Nov 2008 ? There are several other valid OOSIs which have > emerged since then; Seven Sisters / South Tottenham being one of them. > Is there anywhere we can get hold of a current list or does this > entail emailing TFL enquiries and asking them directly ?
I was hoping that the person who knew would have popped up here by now.
In message <ppCdnRqkP5SsImfXnZ2dnUVZ8mmdn...@giganews.com>, rosenst...@cix.compulink.co.uk writes
>> > Someone brought a printout of a spreadsheet showing them to the meet >> > up. I was hoping the spreadsheet would be circulated.
>> Perhaps someone can correct me but is the spreadsheet file from way >> back in Nov 2008 ? There are several other valid OOSIs which have >> emerged since then; Seven Sisters / South Tottenham being one of them. >> Is there anywhere we can get hold of a current list or does this >> entail emailing TFL enquiries and asking them directly ?
>I was hoping that the person who knew would have popped up here by now.
Apparently had to do a FOI request to get it as I remember, so hardly handy either. -- Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building. You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK (please use the reply to address for email)
On 11 Nov, 21:54, Paul Corfield <aoo...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:29:42 -0800 (PST), Uncle-C <sls...@yahoo.co.uk> > wrote:
> >Perhaps someone can correct me but is the spreadsheet file from way > >back in Nov 2008 ? There are several other valid OOSIs which have > >emerged since then; Seven Sisters / South Tottenham being one of them.
> Are you sure about that? I'm not aware that is an OSI for PAYG.
I done a "fare finder" search on the TFL site for "Gospel Oak to Wanstead," and when clicking on "Alternative Fare" it came up with two options :
Route 1: Avoiding Zone 1 via Stratford (London Overground)
Route 2: Via Blackhorse Road, Leytonstone/Leytonstone High Road, Seven Sisters/South Tottenham, Tottenham Hale or Walthamstow Central/Queen's Rd
From the above I am correct in deducing that Seven Sisters / South Tottenham are OOSIs ? In terms of walking distance they are only about 5-10 minutes from each other.
On 12 Nov, 18:32, Paul Corfield <aoo...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> As a side comment I was slightly puzzled by some of the interchange > examples provided by the fare finder alternative routes. I can see why > someone may change Leytonstone High Rd / Leytonstone in order to reach > Wanstead. I completely fail to see why anyone starting at Gospel Oak and > not going via Z1 would change Seven Sisters / South Tottenham or > Walthamstow Central / Walthamstow Queens Road in order to reach > *Wanstead* on the Central Line! Most odd but not an issue for anyone > here to answer.
The only possible reason I can think of is if one decides to take the NLL line instead of the GOBLIN . This would allow a change at Highbury &Islington onto the Victoria Line to either Seven Sisters, for the GOBLIN from S.Tottenham to Leytsonstone High Rd. and then Central Line at Leytonstone , or Walthamstow Central, for the GOBLIN from Walthamstow Queens Rd to Leytonstone High Rd.
aoo...@dsl.pipex.com (Paul Corfield) wrote: > On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:23:23 -0800 (PST), Uncle-C <sls...@yahoo.co.uk> > wrote:
> >On 12 Nov, 18:32, Paul Corfield <aoo...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> >> As a side comment I was slightly puzzled by some of the interchange > >> examples provided by the fare finder alternative routes. I can see > >> why someone may change Leytonstone High Rd / Leytonstone in order to > >> reach Wanstead. I completely fail to see why anyone starting at > >> Gospel Oak and not going via Z1 would change Seven Sisters / South > >> Tottenham or Walthamstow Central / Walthamstow Queens Road in order > >> to reach *Wanstead* on the Central Line! Most odd but not an issue > >> for anyone here to answer.
> >The only possible reason I can think of is if one decides to take the > >NLL line instead of the GOBLIN . This would allow a change at Highbury > >&Islington onto the Victoria Line to either Seven Sisters, for the > >GOBLIN from S.Tottenham to Leytsonstone High Rd. and then Central Line > >at Leytonstone , or Walthamstow Central, for the GOBLIN from > >Walthamstow Queens Rd to Leytonstone High Rd.
> You would, however, have to be clinically insane or plain daft to make > such a journey. If you were on the NLL then you'd just stay on it to > Stratford and pick up the Central there. It is, after all, the first > alternative non Z1 route offered.
You could just be gricing, of course! OTOH, wanting to go to Wanstead could indicate something. :-)
On 11 Nov, 21:54, Paul Corfield <aoo...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> >Perhaps someone can correct me but is the spreadsheet file from way > >back in Nov 2008 ? There are several other valid OOSIs which have > > Seven Sisters / South Tottenham being one of them.
> Are you sure about that? I'm not aware that is an OSI for PAYG.
It absolutely is, and has been since slightly after the start of Overground.
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:55:03 -0000, Ben batty <batty...@gmail.com> wrote: > what about Shepherds Bush Market (H&C line) a 500m walk to Shepherds > Bush (London Overground)?
> It used to be an OSI before the SB(Central Line) rebuild (Before SB LO > station existed) and now it doesn't count
How could Shepherds Bush Market [previously Shepherds Bush H&C] to Shepherds Bush LO have been an OSI before Shepherds Bush LO existed???
> I was charged for 2 singles > on my OysterPAYG. Why when there is no other way to connect H&C with > LO in the area?
You could have done Origin - Wood Lane - White City - Shepherds Bush LU - Shepherds Bush LO - Destination and only be charged 1 single.
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