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uk.telecom mini FAQ (weekly posting)

uk.telecom-mini-...@aldie.co.uk — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:00:01 UT

This is a weekly short posting giving brief details of where to find
more information about the subject of uk.telecom: telecommunications
in the UK.
The FAQ for the group is available on the web at
<URL:[link]>
The FAQ is dated May 1996. This may seem out of date but the basics

Re: Norstar internals

spuorgelg...@gowanhill.com (Owain) — Tue, 11 Nov 2009 20:27:04 UT

The MP3 device has not been purchased yet. Any-sensible-voltage to any-
sensible-voltage conversion shouldn't be too difficult but presumably
5V should be fairly prevalent inside the exchange given it's
microprocessor proclivities?
Owain

Re: Norstar internals

some...@somewhere.invalid (Wibble) — Tue, 11 Nov 2009 20:13:08 UT

That might depend on the voltage the MP3 device needs

Norstar internals

spuorgelg...@gowanhill.com (Owain) — Tue, 11 Nov 2009 17:49:15 UT

Anyone any idea whether there's anywhere convenient inside a Norstar
Compact / Compact Plus I can pick up some voltages for powering an MP3
music-on-hold device?
Owain

Re: cost of 03 numbers

kieron.james.5517...@telecomsbanter.co.uk (Kieron James) — Tue, 11 Nov 2009 10:42:38 UT

becc;80422 Wrote:
Agree with Theo: The cost is linked. You can relax and call 03 numbers
safe in the knowledge that your call will be charged in the same way as
your 01/02 calls - i.e. included in bundled minutes offered by your
operator (rather than excluded as the mobile operators see fit with 08

Manchester 2600 Christmas Buffet, 8:00pm 4th December 2009

man2...@gmail.com (Manchester 2600) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 22:11:04 UT

Manchester 2600 are having a free Christmas buffet on the 5th December
at 8:00 in the Bulls Head pub, everyone is welcome to attend
especially if they have never being to a 2600 Meeting before.
It is aimed at everybody with an interest in computer security,
telephony, hacking, phone phreaking, cryptography, Internet security/

Re: 0870 or similar that can be terminated to a moblie

theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Theo Markettos) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 20:16:03 UT

If it is, you could get another Three SIM on ThreePay, then set up diverts
to the real Three mobile (assuming they come under the 'free Three to Three
calls'). Then pick a SIM from A.N.Other network and port that number to
your new Three SIM. I think that should mean Flextel pay A.N.Other
network's termination rates, which would be covered by the 0871 fee.

Re: How long does it take BT to un-DAX a phone line?

(kraftee) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 20:16:33 UT

That's if it doesn't cost to much, which of course will depend on
where said person is living. If they're in the sticks then there is a
chance that there will be no divertible pairs whilst if it's a urban
environment the chances are greater that there will be divertible
pairs.
Only one way to find out......order broadband and wait to see what

Junk call - two numbers

m...@invalid.invalid (MB) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 19:55:28 UT

I had a couple of junk calls from Serif today - I did not answer it but
recognised the number.
My normal phone displayed their 0800 number but I have a second BT
Internet softphone number and that phone picks up calls on the main
line, it showed a local number at the same time. I don't think they
have a call centre locally. I can see the logic of displaying a local

Re: cost of 03 numbers

theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Theo Markettos) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 19:54:03 UT

I don't think 0870 is called 'national rate' any more - is it? It used to
be, when 0870 cost the same as a national rate 01/02. And then remained so
by some people.
0870 was never linked to the price of 01/02 - so 01/02 got cheaper but 0870
didn't. 03 is linked so this shouldn't happen.
I suspect the wording is because a few people (businesses and LUS mainly)

Re: How long does it take BT to un-DAX a phone line?

geowes...@nospamgooglemail.com (George Weston) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 17:48:11 UT

news:e9TDQNAnCjCLFw2K@[127.0.0 .1]...
You could do either but BT probably wouldn't act on a request to remove DACS
from a voice-only line, as that is what DACS was designed for, i.e. a
modern-day equivalent of a party line but with the advantage of
"transparency" as far as the customer is concerned.

Re: How long does it take BT to un-DAX a phone line?

nos...@[127.0.0.1] (Chris) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 06:50:15 UT

In article <7mq5lmF3j0j1...@mid.individua l.net>, George Weston
<geowes...@NOSPAMgooglemail.co m> writes
So - just to clarify the best sequence of actions ...
Do you have to apply for ADSL first?
Or can you ask BT to remove DACS and then apply to an ISP?

Re: Can 0800 and 0845 see withheld numbers?

br...@eye.invalid (Brown Cat) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 00:50:33 UT

A private company claimed I owed them some money. I called their number
from my mobile withholding my number. I'm certain that they did not have
this number but they called me back on it a few days later!
Somehow they did trace my number even though it was withheld.

Re: Can 0800 and 0845 see withheld numbers?

br...@eye.invalid (Brown Cat) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 00:24:06 UT

My VoIP provider used to show me withheld numbers. A great set up was to
set my mobile phone to divert rejected calls to my VoIP number.

Re: Can 0800 and 0845 see withheld numbers?

notha...@blueyonder.invalid (Jono) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 13:05:54 UT

Ivor Jones brought next idea :
But, I suspect, the other poster meant the Sipgate account and number
could be treated as disposable.