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  <title type="text">uk.telecom Google Group</title>
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  Discussion of UK telecommunications
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  <updated>2009-11-30T08:00:23Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Dave Liquorice</name>
  <email>allsortsnotthis...@howhill.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-30T08:00:23Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/e51ae6f9fc97372a/3b26482a35b14f24?show_docid=3b26482a35b14f24</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/e51ae6f9fc97372a/3b26482a35b14f24?show_docid=3b26482a35b14f24"/>
  <title type="text">Re: BBC has Technology problems</title>
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  If it works. The BBC having &amp;quot;fun&amp;quot; with VoIP systems is not the first &lt;br&gt; major installation that has had &amp;quot;difficulties&amp;quot;. I guess they&#39;ll shake &lt;br&gt; the bugs out the core systems eventually but it doesn&#39;t appear to be &lt;br&gt; quite ready yet.
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  <author>
  <name>Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd</name>
  <email>an...@magsys.co.uk</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-30T07:44:14Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/e51ae6f9fc97372a/45be842ba896dfb6?show_docid=45be842ba896dfb6</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/e51ae6f9fc97372a/45be842ba896dfb6?show_docid=45be842ba896dfb6"/>
  <title type="text">Re: BBC has Technology problems</title>
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  In article &amp;lt;50c2011ec4char...@charleshope .demon.co.uk&amp;gt;, &lt;br&gt; So what was the technology behind the internal 7xxx telephones at TVC in &lt;br&gt; 1970? Crossbar was the only alternative at the time. &lt;br&gt; Angus
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>David Woolley</name>
  <email>da...@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-30T07:27:27Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/758c26c5e44021d5/a85c615f7e5b4c54?show_docid=a85c615f7e5b4c54</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/758c26c5e44021d5/a85c615f7e5b4c54?show_docid=a85c615f7e5b4c54"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Dail phone - cancelling rental.</title>
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  If I remember the old contract correctly, you are required to return it, &lt;br&gt; not BT to collect it.
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  <author>
  <name>Michael Chare</name>
  <email>munderscoren...@charedotorg.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-30T01:14:27Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/758c26c5e44021d5/19e7b519fcded28b?show_docid=19e7b519fcded28b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/758c26c5e44021d5/19e7b519fcded28b?show_docid=19e7b519fcded28b"/>
  <title type="text">Dail phone - cancelling rental.</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  If I cancel the rental of my &#39;Basic dial phone&#39; will BT come and take it &lt;br&gt; away or will they tell me that I can keep it? &lt;br&gt; The phone is old enough to have some value.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Terry Casey</name>
  <email>k.t...@example.invalid</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-29T23:35:13Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/e51ae6f9fc97372a/7430e58155f7f174?show_docid=7430e58155f7f174</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/e51ae6f9fc97372a/7430e58155f7f174?show_docid=7430e58155f7f174"/>
  <title type="text">Re: BBC has Technology problems</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  In article &amp;lt;c599bff2-2bb5-4741-abe0-75d78 3e831b4 &lt;br&gt; @p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com&amp;gt;, alexander.ke...@googlemail.com says... &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;Big Snip&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; In February 1970, a large, brand new, Strowger exchange came into use in &lt;br&gt; the City of London. It was, in fact, a very large PABX, built to GPO &lt;br&gt; specification and operated entirely by GPO engineers (who became, in
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  <author>
  <name>Theo Markettos</name>
  <email>theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-29T23:28:11Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/e51ae6f9fc97372a/b4619cc20a00d6fd?show_docid=b4619cc20a00d6fd</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/e51ae6f9fc97372a/b4619cc20a00d6fd?show_docid=b4619cc20a00d6fd"/>
  <title type="text">Re: BBC has Technology problems</title>
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  But can you get spares for them? We (Cambridge Uni) have just replaced our &lt;br&gt; 15,000 handset PBX dating from 1985 with VOIP, because spares were becoming &lt;br&gt; difficult to find. And we&#39;ll save quite a bit of money by going to VOIP. &lt;br&gt; Theo &lt;br&gt; (speaking personally, not connected to the project other than as a user)
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>charles</name>
  <email>char...@charleshope.demon.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-29T22:26:13Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/e51ae6f9fc97372a/995c832d945c9d66?show_docid=995c832d945c9d66</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/e51ae6f9fc97372a/995c832d945c9d66?show_docid=995c832d945c9d66"/>
  <title type="text">Re: BBC has Technology problems</title>
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  In article &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;c599bff2-2bb5-4741-abe0-75d78 3e83...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroup s.com&amp;gt;, &lt;br&gt; but buildings like White City never had a Strowger exchange ....
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  <author>
  <name>Owain</name>
  <email>spuorgelg...@gowanhill.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-29T21:42:41Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/e51ae6f9fc97372a/c700849a5d88a93f?show_docid=c700849a5d88a93f</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/e51ae6f9fc97372a/c700849a5d88a93f?show_docid=c700849a5d88a93f"/>
  <title type="text">Re: BBC has Technology problems</title>
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  On 29 Nov, 21:14, &amp;quot;alexander.ke...@googlemail.co m&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; The TXE4 exchanges were designed for a Mean Time Between Failures &lt;br&gt; (MTBF) of 50 years, and needed a lot less maintenance than clockwork &lt;br&gt; Owain
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>alexd</name>
  <email>troffa...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-29T21:40:52Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/e51ae6f9fc97372a/b01707fc73721da0?show_docid=b01707fc73721da0</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/e51ae6f9fc97372a/b01707fc73721da0?show_docid=b01707fc73721da0"/>
  <title type="text">Re: BBC has Technology problems</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom Job Justification Hearings, &lt;br&gt; alexander.ke...@googlemail.com chose the tried and tested strategy of: &lt;br&gt; Perhaps you could furnish us with a list of comparably-featured phone &lt;br&gt; systems that don&#39;t use any software?
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Mikeapollo</name>
  <email>use...@removethisbit.mikeapollo.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-29T21:35:12Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/e51ae6f9fc97372a/2f49bc9ff66d5f8d?show_docid=2f49bc9ff66d5f8d</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/e51ae6f9fc97372a/2f49bc9ff66d5f8d?show_docid=2f49bc9ff66d5f8d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: BBC has Technology problems</title>
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  [snip] &lt;br&gt; TXE, TDX and AXE systems all have higher proven reliability rates than &lt;br&gt; Strowger exchanges which were extremely maintenance intensive due to &lt;br&gt; selector wear. &lt;br&gt; Crossbar (TXE) used to suffer from stuck reed switches, but the current &lt;br&gt; electronic DMSUs have five 9 reliability figures - but are only as good as
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  <author>
  <name>alexander.keys1@googlemail.com</name>
  <email>alexander.ke...@googlemail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-29T21:14:13Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/e51ae6f9fc97372a/0d45c664d8c553f8?show_docid=0d45c664d8c553f8</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/e51ae6f9fc97372a/0d45c664d8c553f8?show_docid=0d45c664d8c553f8"/>
  <title type="text">Re: BBC has Technology problems</title>
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  On 27 Nov, 18:13, Dickie mint &amp;lt;richard_taylorspa...@trapyaho o.co.uk&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; They wouldn&#39;t have these problems if they didn&#39;t keep wasting money on &lt;br&gt; changing their kit every couple of years, using software-dependent &lt;br&gt; equipment is asking for trouble. There was no need to get rid of the &lt;br&gt; old Strowger exchanges and manual switchboards, these were proven
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Thomas</name>
  <email>some...@somewhere.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-29T20:04:26Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/f93950fdf56d292f/ad2b33502ac7447e?show_docid=ad2b33502ac7447e</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/f93950fdf56d292f/ad2b33502ac7447e?show_docid=ad2b33502ac7447e"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Are Virginmedia blocking SayNoTo0870 ?</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Thanks for this. &lt;br&gt; Thomas.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Brown Cat</name>
  <email>br...@eye.invalid</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-29T18:19:18Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/f93950fdf56d292f/47191aa8c27ed29a?show_docid=47191aa8c27ed29a</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/f93950fdf56d292f/47191aa8c27ed29a?show_docid=47191aa8c27ed29a"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Are Virginmedia blocking SayNoTo0870 ?</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  I&#39;m on Virgin Media and twice I&#39;ve had to tweak my MTU settings after &lt;br&gt; finding that about 20% of sites suddenly stopped working. According to &lt;br&gt; one forum it was something to do with an upgrade at the exchange. &lt;br&gt; As immoral and unethical Virgin Media are [1], I don&#39;t think they&#39;re at &lt;br&gt; the stage of blocking sites they don&#39;t like just yet.
  </summary>
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jono</name>
  <email>notha...@blueyonder.invalid</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-29T16:57:46Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/9a8287efdbb2bf27/2c805639dc81dbbf?show_docid=2c805639dc81dbbf</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/9a8287efdbb2bf27/2c805639dc81dbbf?show_docid=2c805639dc81dbbf"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Panasonic Systems KXTDE - Any good?</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  on 29/11/2009, R. Mark Clayton supposed : &lt;br&gt; The difference bring, you&#39;ve got a 2-BRI and 4 port Hybrid on the &lt;br&gt; TDA-15 and no line or extension cards at all on the NCP.
  </summary>
  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>R. Mark Clayton</name>
  <email>nospamclay...@btinternet.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-29T11:20:13Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/9a8287efdbb2bf27/217eb0dd61d974eb?show_docid=217eb0dd61d974eb</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.telecom/browse_frm/thread/9a8287efdbb2bf27/217eb0dd61d974eb?show_docid=217eb0dd61d974eb"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Panasonic Systems KXTDE - Any good?</title>
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  KX-TDA15 is exactly the same price as KX NCP 500 &lt;br&gt; KX-TDA 100, KX NCP 1000 and KX-TDE 100 are all within £20 of each other.
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