Just to let you all know, we are now trialling a new call-through service on a UK geographic number - 01442 826823. This new service is intended for anyone who can call UK landlines for free with a calling package to make free international calls. The service can be used 24/7. You will be able to call the same destinations as with our O2 mobile access number 0773 066 6890. Anyone with cross-network inclusive minutes on a mobile contract should use the O2 number instead of the geographic number, as we expect the geographic number to be in huge demand!
Just as a reminder, the destinations are as follows:
Argentina Australia Austria Azores Belgium Brazil (Rio de Janeiro) Brazil (Sao Paulo) Canada Chile China China-mobile Cyprus Czech Republic Denmark Estonia France Germany Greece Hong Kong Hong Kong-mobile Iceland Ireland Israel Italy Korea (South) Luxembourg Malaysia Monaco Netherlands New Zealand Norway Panama City Peru (Lima) Poland Portugal Puerto Rico Russia (Moscow) Russia (St Petersburg) Singapore Singapore-mobile Spain Sweden Switzerland Taiwan Thailand Thailand-mobile UK Freephone UK National UK Local Rate 0845 USA USA (Alaska) USA (Hawaii) USA-mobile Venezuela (Caracas)
-- Mikael
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> "Mikael Armstrong" <Mik...@Lexgreen.com> wrote in message > news:454b4cce.0@entanet... >> Just to let you all know, we are now trialling a new call-through service > on >> a UK geographic number - 01442 826823.
> Isn't that a pager number charged at something silly a minute?
> "Mikael Armstrong" <Mik...@Lexgreen.com> wrote in message > news:454b4cce.0@entanet... > > Just to let you all know, we are now trialling a new > > call-through service on a UK geographic number - 01442 > > 826823.
> Isn't that a pager number charged at something silly a > minute?
On an 01xxx number..? I can't see how that could be charged at anything other than normal rate.
I know one thing, if it allows calls to 0870 numbers it will probably spend most of its time maxed out..!
> "Andrew Crane" <ne...@inweb.co.uk> wrote in message > news:eifolc$1onr$1@custnews.inweb.co.uk > > "Mikael Armstrong" <Mik...@Lexgreen.com> wrote in message > > news:454b4cce.0@entanet... > > > Just to let you all know, we are now trialling a new > > > call-through service on a UK geographic number - 01442 > > > 826823.
> > Isn't that a pager number charged at something silly a > > minute?
> On an 01xxx number..? I can't see how that could be charged at anything > other than normal rate.
> I know one thing, if it allows calls to 0870 numbers it will probably > spend most of its time maxed out..!
How can it be simpler? With Superline you have to pay a a charge as well as dialling an access number. WIth this service you just dial an access number and there is no further charge!
M.Dex...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: > On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 13:43:19 -0000, "Mikael Armstrong" > <Mik...@Lexgreen.com> wrote:
> > You will be able to > >call the same destinations as with our O2 mobile access number 0773 066 > >6890. Anyone with cross-network inclusive minutes on a mobile contract > >should use the O2 number instead of the geographic number, as we expect the > >geographic number to be in huge demand! > Just tried this number from my mobile and got the message saying > " this service is only available OFF PEAK please redial after SEVEN > PM".
Its definitely a geo number.
Code: 01442 82 Area: Markyate Locality: Tring, Hertfordshire Operator: British Telecom Tariff Band: National (inc VAT) Service: Geographic
The mobile access number only works after 7pm and all weekend.
M.Dex...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: > On 3 Nov 2006 11:26:59 -0800, jhp...@googlemail.com wrote:
> >M.Dex...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: > >> On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 13:43:19 -0000, "Mikael Armstrong" > >> <Mik...@Lexgreen.com> wrote:
> >> > You will be able to > >> >call the same destinations as with our O2 mobile access number 0773 066 > >> >6890. Anyone with cross-network inclusive minutes on a mobile contract > >> >should use the O2 number instead of the geographic number, as we expect the > >> >geographic number to be in huge demand! > >> Just tried this number from my mobile and got the message saying > >> " this service is only available OFF PEAK please redial after SEVEN > >> PM".
> >The mobile access number only works after 7pm and all weekend. > It is a good service but although you are supposed to be able to call > 0845 numbers you can't just tried .
But it does let you call 0800 numbers handy for mobile users who are normally charged to call them.
Can you (or anyone else) confirm if this is allowed on the 3 network? They seem to be real sticklers for not allowing this. Anyone found out more info? Thanks very much.
>> I use simpler service from Superline to make cheap internatonal calls >> from my mobile. > How can it be simpler? With Superline you have to pay a a charge as well > as > dialling an access number. WIth this service you just dial an access > number > and there is no further charge!
Maybe he means 'simpler' in an Orange sort of way?
Mikael Armstrong <Mik...@Lexgreen.com> wrote: > Just to let you all know, we are now trialling a new call-through service on > a UK geographic number - 01442 826823. This new service is intended for > anyone who can call UK landlines for free with a calling package to make > free international calls.
This seems to work very well for the US numbers I called, using 1899 from a BT landline. Seems too good to be true- is it sustainable? I'm planning to call Lima later today, and will be particularly delighted if that worked!
This seems to work very well for the US numbers I called, using 1899 from a BT landline. Seems too good to be true- is it sustainable? I'm planning to call Lima later today, and will be particularly delighted if that worked!
David Horne
Don't understand Dave - are you saying you don't have a free calls package so dialed the 01442 number using 1899 (i.e. for 4p connection and 0p/minute) to make your USA call for a total of 4p?
JunkStuffBox <junkstuff...@googlemail.com> wrote: > This seems to work very well for the US numbers I called, using 1899 > from a BT landline. Seems too good to be true- is it sustainable? I'm > planning to call Lima later today, and will be particularly delighted > if that worked!
> David Horne
> Don't understand Dave - are you saying you don't have a free calls > package so dialed the 01442 number using 1899 (i.e. for 4p connection > and 0p/minute) to make your USA call for a total of 4p?
> tap...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > > there is now a msg saying your number is not registered for this > > service. hope its a minor glitch.
> same here for now
> interesting service, Mikael - is it a short-term trial of new systems > that will be moved on to other numbers, or could it last for some time?
There was a total stampede for the service at the weekend, and more traffic than expected was received. We have had to turn it off for a while, but will hopefully have it back up and running within a few days. We will be taking a look at introducing other numbers such as this in due course.
>> tap...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: >> > there is now a msg saying your number is not registered for this >> > service. hope its a minor glitch.
>> same here for now
>> interesting service, Mikael - is it a short-term trial of new systems >> that will be moved on to other numbers, or could it last for some time?
>There was a total stampede for the service at the weekend, and more traffic >than expected was received. We have had to turn it off for a while, but will >hopefully have it back up and running within a few days. We will be taking a >look at introducing other numbers such as this in due course.
How can anyone make money doing something like this, unless it's by building up call volume so as to be able to offer lower prices on the 0870 numbers?
>>> tap...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: >>> > there is now a msg saying your number is not registered for this >>> > service. hope its a minor glitch.
>>> same here for now
>>> interesting service, Mikael - is it a short-term trial of new systems >>> that will be moved on to other numbers, or could it last for some time?
>>There was a total stampede for the service at the weekend, and more traffic >>than expected was received. We have had to turn it off for a while, but will >>hopefully have it back up and running within a few days. We will be taking a >>look at introducing other numbers such as this in due course.
> How can anyone make money doing something like this, unless it's by > building up call volume so as to be able to offer lower prices on the > 0870 numbers?
In the US they can do this when the settlement charges for terminating the phone call are higher than the long distance charges. For example
Certain small rural telephone companies are allowed (for hysterical reasons) to charge quite high settlements, on the order of 3 or 5 or even 8 cents per minute (normal settlements are on the order of a fraction of a cent these days). The state of Iowa is particularly interesting not only because it has quite a few rural phone companies, but also because the state government built a fibre network which allows those companies to bypass the bigger carriers to access overseas long distance wholesalers. You can make money on the difference between the settlement charge and the long distance cost to many destinations, you just need to find a rural phone company willing to share.
I have no idea how this works in the UK (other than that phone costs in general seem high), however, so I don't know if a similar arbitrage is possible.
> On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 16:33:50 GMT, Dennis Ferguson said in article ><slrnekuovd.99.dcfergu...@0127ahost165.starwoodbroadband.com>:
>>Certain small rural telephone companies are allowed (for hysterical >>reasons) to charge quite high settlements,
> What caused these small companies to get hysterical?
Don't know much about hystery... but, in case you're serious:
In the 1930's no phone company in their right mind wanted to install miles and miles of copper to serve areas in the USA with hardly any subsribers, so the government established a number of subsidies from and taxes on phone service in places where there were people to fund phone service in places where there weren't.
Unfortunately pork, once law, tends to be self-perpetuating. There is still a "Universal Service" tax added on to everyone's phone bill, and there are still high settlements which aren't supposed to be passed on to the caller.
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