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Steve Watson G8ZMG  
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From: "Steve Watson G8ZMG" <scwat...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:12:28 -0000
Local: Mon 9 Nov 2009 09:12
Subject: Poor audio on BBC HD for Strictly Come Dancing
Anybody noticed poor audio on Saturday's SCD from Balckpool on the BBC HD
channel?  It seemed very compressed and the background sounds squeezed out
the main commentary and music at times. The audio was fine on SD.

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Agamemnon  
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From: "Agamemnon" <agamem...@hello.to.NO_SPAM>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:27:45 -0000
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Subject: Re: Poor audio on BBC HD for Strictly Come Dancing

"Steve Watson G8ZMG" <scwat...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Anybody noticed poor audio on Saturday's SCD from Balckpool on the BBC HD
> channel?  It seemed very compressed and the background sounds squeezed out
> the main commentary and music at times. The audio was fine on SD.

The audio sounded crap on SD as well, with the microphones on the presenters
and judges clipping all the time. You could even hear them talking over Rod
Stewart's performance opening lines.

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David  
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From: "David" <david.p...@tesco.net>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:54:50 -0000
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Subject: Re: Poor audio on BBC HD for Strictly Come Dancing

"Steve Watson G8ZMG" <scwat...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Anybody noticed poor audio on Saturday's SCD from Balckpool on the BBC HD
> channel?  It seemed very compressed and the background sounds squeezed out
> the main commentary and music at times. The audio was fine on SD.

I notice less volume on the HD channel and have to turn volume up.

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Steve Watson G8ZMG  
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 More options 9 Nov, 12:47
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From: "Steve Watson G8ZMG" <scwat...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:47:42 -0000
Local: Mon 9 Nov 2009 12:47
Subject: Re: Poor audio on BBC HD for Strictly Come Dancing
Yes I noticed that talk-over as well.

Sorry about the typo "Balckpool".   Keyboard > Chair interface module error
again, unless the message has gone through the BBC's encoders and suffered a
transposition error !!

Steve.

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Michael Chare  
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From: "Michael Chare" <MunderscoreN...@chareDOTorg.uk>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:28:15 -0000
Local: Mon 9 Nov 2009 12:28
Subject: Re: Poor audio on BBC HD for Strictly Come Dancing
"Agamemnon" <agamem...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message

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> "Steve Watson G8ZMG" <scwat...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:V1RJm.24976$_87.24159@newsfe06.ams2...
>> Anybody noticed poor audio on Saturday's SCD from Balckpool on the BBC HD
>> channel?  It seemed very compressed and the background sounds squeezed
>> out
>> the main commentary and music at times. The audio was fine on SD.

> The audio sounded crap on SD as well, with the microphones on the
> presenters and judges clipping all the time. You could even hear them
> talking over Rod Stewart's performance opening lines.

Yes I noticed that.   For BBC HD,  DBviewer allows me to choose between MPEG
and AC3 Audio formats.  I don't think my Humax HDR has this option which is
a pity, as  it does not output LPCM on the S/PDIF optical port when
receiving BBC HD.

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Chas Gill  
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 More options 9 Nov, 13:22
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From: "Chas Gill" <Chas.G...@gollum.btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:22:14 -0000
Local: Mon 9 Nov 2009 13:22
Subject: Re: Poor audio on BBC HD for Strictly Come Dancing

"Steve Watson G8ZMG" <scwat...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Anybody noticed poor audio on Saturday's SCD from Balckpool on the BBC HD
> channel?  It seemed very compressed and the background sounds squeezed out
> the main commentary and music at times. The audio was fine on SD.

I agree it was dreadful.  It might be something to do with the fact that the
sound was in Dolby Surround on HD and, given the acoustics of the Tower
Ballroom it was probably a nightmare in terms of mic placement and level
control.  However, that's no excuse.  It should have been engineered to a
much higher quality and the BBC, of all people, ought to know how to get it
right.

Chas


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From: brushhead <robwil...@remove.brushhead.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:47:38 +0000
Local: Mon 9 Nov 2009 15:47
Subject: Re: Poor audio on BBC HD for Strictly Come Dancing

Pardon?

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J G Miller  
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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:15:58 +0100
Local: Mon 30 Nov 2009 22:15
Subject: Re: Poor audio on BBC HD for Strictly Come Dancing

On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:22:14 +0000, Chas Gill wrote:
> It should have been engineered to a much higher quality and the BBC, of all people,
> ought to know how to get it right.

But is it actually BBC staff now who set up and record these programs or some outside
broadcast facility company such as Satellite Information Services Limited (SIS),
since the BBC sold off their OB facilities to the aforenamed company, and so presumably
now have to pay them to do the job for them?

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Dave Plowman (News)  
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From: "Dave Plowman (News)" <d...@davenoise.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:12:15 +0000 (GMT)
Local: Tues 1 Dec 2009 00:12
Subject: Re: Poor audio on BBC HD for Strictly Come Dancing
In article <1259619358_...@vo.lu>,
   J G Miller <mil...@yoyo.ORG> wrote:

> > It should have been engineered to a much higher quality and the BBC,
> > of all people, ought to know how to get it right.
> But is it actually BBC staff now who set up and record these programs or
> some outside broadcast facility company such as Satellite Information
> Services Limited (SIS), since the BBC sold off their OB facilities to
> the aforenamed company, and so presumably now have to pay them to do the
> job for them?

This sort of prog will likely use a freelance sound mixer who is ex BBC or
ITV. And pretty good at his job.

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Brian Gaff  
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From: "Brian Gaff" <bria...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:44:25 GMT
Local: Tues 1 Dec 2009 09:44
Subject: Re: Poor audio on BBC HD for Strictly Come Dancing
I know, it is absolutely stupid. I listen to some bits from outside
broadcasts and wince and reach for the off button.

 I think most of the engineers just shove everything on a limiter and go
down the pub.
Brian

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