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Woody  
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From: "Woody" <harroga...@ntlworld.spam.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:44:15 -0000
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 15:44
Subject: TWOT: automated checkouts
I was in Morrisons today.

Four items so I thought I'd go through the 'quick-service'
automated checkouts.

Four items:-
2 x 3ltr milk
One roll masking tape
Sunday Times

The machine tells me it needs operator approval for my purchase.
Eh? Can't think what harm you can do with a roll of masking tape.

Operator comes along and authorises my purchase - of the SUNDAY
TIMES!!!!!!!!

What is the world coming to???

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Discussion subject changed to "automated checkouts" by Doctor D
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From: "Doctor D" <da...@nospam.f9.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:56:04 -0000
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 15:56
Subject: Re: automated checkouts

"Woody" <harroga...@ntlworld.spam.com> wrote in message

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I normally have trouble with lightweight items not being recognised by the
bagging area load sensors in Tesco and B&Q. I hardly think that can apply to
the Sunday Times!
Was it a particularly racy edition?

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Discussion subject changed to "TWOT: automated checkouts" by semireti...@my-deja.com
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From: semireti...@my-deja.com
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:09:19 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 16:09
Subject: Re: TWOT: automated checkouts
On 8 Nov, 15:44, "Woody"  wrote:

> I was in Morrisons today.
> Four items so I thought I'd go through the 'quick-service'
> automated checkouts.
> Four items:-
> 2 x 3ltr milk
> One roll masking tape
> Sunday Times
> The machine tells me it needs operator approval for my purchase.
> Eh? Can't think what harm you can do with a roll of masking tape.
> Operator comes along and authorises my purchase - of the SUNDAY
> TIMES!!!!!!!!
> What is the world coming to???                 --   Woody

Sometimes they include DVDs.
Some of these will have an age rating

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From: Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjack...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:13:28 +0000
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Subject: Re: automated checkouts
In message <FKidnYep2cWEd2vXnZ2dnUVZ7q2dn...@brightview.co.uk>, Doctor D
<da...@nospam.f9.co.uk> writes

I had the same problem at B&Q. The weight sensor couldn't recognise a
pack of half a dozen washers. And I found the instructions (when you get
a hiccup) confusing. But I have managed to re-scan four DTT STBs and a
TV set, so I can't be totally stupid.

>I hardly think that can apply to the Sunday Times!
>Was it a particularly racy edition?

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From: Colin Wilson <REMOVEEVERYTHINGBUTnewsgr...@phoenixbbsZEROSPAM.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:31:14 -0000
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Subject: Re: TWOT: automated checkouts

> The machine tells me it needs operator approval for my purchase.
> Eh? Can't think what harm you can do with a roll of masking tape.
> Operator comes along and authorises my purchase - of the SUNDAY
> TIMES!!!!!!!!

LOL perhaps they need to restrict it to people who can handle big
words :-p

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From: Scott <spiced.porkand...@virgin.net>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:55:06 +0000
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Subject: Re: TWOT: automated checkouts
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:44:15 -0000, "Woody"

Are you over 18?  There may be unsuitable content.  The Independent
used the word f**k yesterday.

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Ian Jackson  
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From: Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjack...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:58:49 +0000
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Subject: Re: TWOT: automated checkouts
In message <jttdf5l6j88lmca4lvrj2p4bkfsf52g...@4ax.com>, Scott
<spiced.porkand...@virgin.net> writes

The Guardian often has naughty words in it.
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From: Mark Carver <mark.car...@invalid.invalid>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:14:14 +0000
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 17:14
Subject: Re: TWOT: automated checkouts

Scott wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:44:15 -0000, "Woody"
>> Operator comes along and authorises my purchase - of the SUNDAY
>> TIMES!!!!!!!!

>> What is the world coming to???

> Are you over 18?  There may be unsuitable content.  The Independent
> used the word f**k yesterday.

Yet under 18s are allowed to sell and deliver such papers ?

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From: "Dave Plowman (News)" <d...@davenoise.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:11:23 +0000 (GMT)
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 17:11
Subject: automated checkouts
Bought a filler 'knife' at B&Q - and the automated checkout required
permission to sell it to me. If that's regarded as a potential weapon, so
is practically any tool.
 But Tescos self service checkout needs authorisation for Becks no alcohol
beer too.

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From: "ian field" <gangprobing.al...@ntlworld.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:20:46 -0000
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Subject: Re: automated checkouts

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The auto checkout is great for when I bag up the contents of my penny jar.

About £6 in 1p & 2p coins last time.


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Brian Gaff  
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From: "Brian Gaff" <bria...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:29:00 GMT
Subject: Re: automated checkouts
Well I had a guy doorstep me earlier this week wanting to sell me Daily Mail
subscriptions. I thus pointed out that a daily paper was as much use to me
as a chocolate fireguard. I mean the white cane ought to have given it away
somewhat, but the fact I was pruning a shrub probably threw him, poor dear.

Brian

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"Woody" <harroga...@ntlworld.spam.com> wrote in message

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From: "Brian Gaff" <bria...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:30:35 GMT
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Subject: Re: automated checkouts
Actually, masking tape I guess could have been used to gag someone, albeit
not for very long, but the times?
Brian

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From: "Brian Gaff" <bria...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:33:40 GMT
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Subject: Re: automated checkouts
Well, I heard the other day that one company is going to just have automatic
checkouts, I fancy blind folk will have something to say about that one, and
it won't be very nice.

Brian

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:43:19 -0000
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"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVETHISjack...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in
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Yes but they're usually misspellings! It's not know as the
Grauniad for nothing.

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:03:50 -0000
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Subject: Re: automated checkouts

"Brian Gaff" <bria...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message

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> Well, I heard the other day that one company is going to just have
> automatic checkouts, I fancy blind folk will have something to say about
> that one, and it won't be very nice.

There could be wider implications for other disabled groups as well.

Morrisons invariably have at least one security guard keeping an eye on the
auto checkouts so it shouldn't be difficult to summon help.

If you don't get assistance in a reasonable time, just leave your basket of
shopping on the floor and go somewhere with staffed checkouts.


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It probably doubted you could read so was doing you a favour.  You
certainly don't read or understand the titles or purpose of newsgroups.
If you just want to test your news program, use  alt.test

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Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:15:29 +0000
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Subject: Re: TWOT: automated checkouts
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:58:49 +0000, Ian Jackson

Didn't the Sun once famously make a complaint to the Press Complaints
Commission about the Independent using an offensive word?  When the
complaint was dismissed they ran a headlline "It's alright for posh
papers to say ***" and "We battled to stop em folks" and "The Sun is a
family paper."

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Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:19:40 +0000
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Subject: Re: automated checkouts
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:33:40 GMT, "Brian Gaff"

<bria...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>Well, I heard the other day that one company is going to just have automatic
>checkouts, I fancy blind folk will have something to say about that one, and
>it won't be very nice.

>Brian

Why do you assume blind people won't be able to operate an automated
checkout?  Do you think they won't be able to work out which key is
which on the keypad?

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:47:02 -0000
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Subject: Re: automated checkouts
"Scott" <spiced.porkand...@virgin.net> wrote in message

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> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:33:40 GMT, "Brian Gaff"
> <bria...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>>Well, I heard the other day that one company is going to just have
>>automatic
>>checkouts, I fancy blind folk will have something to say about that one,
>>and
>>it won't be very nice.

>>Brian

> Why do you assume blind people won't be able to operate an automated
> checkout?  Do you think they won't be able to work out which key is
> which on the keypad?

All the self checkout machines I've seen have touch screens which you have
to be able to see and read to work out where you need to touch them.

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Woody wrote (apparently) in uk.tech.digital-tv on Sun 08 Nov 2009
15:44:15:

If this was the one in Harrogate then I am not surprised. Been there
twice, and only three of the four checkouts have been working. And
have been supervised by three staff. Errm...

Also I went to buy two rolls of bin bags on one occasion, I was told I
needed to have a carrier bag or I couldn't buy them, because of the
scale thing. Almost walked out. Utter waste of everyone's time.
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:45:32 -0000
Local: Mon 9 Nov 2009 00:45
Subject: Re: automated checkouts

>>Well, I heard the other day that one company is going to just have automatic
>>checkouts, I fancy blind folk will have something to say about that one, and
>>it won't be very nice.

>>Brian

> Why do you assume blind people won't be able to operate an automated
> checkout?  Do you think they won't be able to work out which key is
> which on the keypad?

Possibly the fact Brian is totally blind himself gives him the right to make
such an assumption (?)

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:22:14 +0000
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Subject: Re: automated checkouts
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:47:02 -0000, "Brian Gregory [UK]"

Flat touch screens are a problems for blind people. It's not just
checkouts. A blind friend had problems when new lifts were installed
in the flats where he lives. The new control panels were touch
sensitive so he often finished up on the wrong floor. We solved the
problem by scratching the part of the touch sensitive panels for his
floor. No doubt some people thought they had been vandalized.

Steve

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From: "Bill" <wrightsaeri...@f2s.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:30:29 GMT
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Subject: Re: automated checkouts
>Well I had a guy doorstep me earlier this week wanting to sell me Daily
>Mail

subscriptions. I thus pointed out that a daily paper was as much use to me
as a chocolate fireguard. I mean the white cane ought to have given it away
somewhat, but the fact I was pruning a shrub probably threw him, poor dear.

Are you sure it was a shrub?

Bill


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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:49:28 +0000
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Subject: Re: automated checkouts
In message <e1ref519lhul4r5e72ktu10lrom1v31...@4ax.com>, Stephen
Wolstenholme <st...@tropheus.demon.co.uk> writes

They would be correct. :¬)
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 07:34:38 -0000
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You don't have to use the bags as long as you put the items on
the scales. Problem occurs if you have to lift an existing item -
inside a bag or not - to make space for somthing already on the
scale. The **** machine thinks you are taking things without
paying and won't go any further without approval.

I used one in Sainsbury's in York the other week and it was much
better, not least there was a decent pause after the item was
scanned to allow you to put it on the scale before it started
preaching at you. Those in our Morrison's (yes, Harrogate) bleat
perhaps a second or so after scanning. When they first started I
commented to the supervisor that its a pity that they don't have
an expert mode which allows you to select to switch Digital Doris
off but it went straight over her head.

There must be something about Harrogate (now now, polite comments
only please) as Sainsbury's there replaced one checkout with
three 'few items' manned checkouts - not automated. Says it all
really.

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