> news:3f63256e-f63e-4cf1-84c8-df5e0b1aad24@p36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 4, 7:58 pm, "t" <tool...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Ummm, I think to be honest, we need a second or third diagnosis. It would
> > seem reasonable considering the possible implications of this case. By at
> > least one pro vacer and one less than pro. Where is House when we need
> > him?

> Read the information carefully, The diagnosis was made by the doctors
> treting her, not by anyone else. The report says:

> "The admitting

> > neurologist felt that there was a strong psychogenic component to the
> > symptomology, and made a final diagnosis of weakness. "

> The admitting neurologist, the one who was seeing and believing, made
> the diagnosis.

> And, the other article I posted, from Dr. Novella, is from an academic
> neurologist who practices at Yale. Academic physicians are salaried,
> and do not make an extra dime when they see patients.

> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >news:8258b567-c765-4020-bed3-49ac37a6de48@31g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
> > On Nov 2, 11:48 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > On Oct 23, 7:45 pm, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:

> > > > On Oct 23, 7:31 pm, "JohnSmith" <some...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > > > "john" <nos...@bt.com> wrote in message
> > > > >news:LcqdnWPN4sd8CErXnZ2dnUVZ8m6dnZ2d@bt.com...
> > > > > > She's been diagnosed withdystonia, an extremely rare and
> > > > > > debilitating
> > > > > > neurological disease.
> > > > > >She doesn't know what else it could be
> > > > > a common effect in dumb people.
> > > > > > She says 10 days after getting a seasonal flu shot at a Reston
> > > > > > grocery
> > > > > > store in August, and on her second wedding anniversary, she got
> > > > > > sick.
> > > > > > First, she came down with flu like symptoms, then convulsions and
> > > > > > blacking
> > > > > > out.
> > > > > sore throat? headache? NO, she barfed. not a h1n1 symptom DUMBASS
> > > > > > She believes her seasonal flu shot triggered it.
> > > > > > Desiree says, "Nothing else explains such a fast moving
> > > > > > neurological
> > > > > > damage.
> > > > > except fordystonia
> > > > > > The medical hospitals ruled out everything, CAT scans normal,
> > > > > > blood
> > > > > > normal, MRI normal. The only thing that explains it is the shot
> > > > > > caused the
> > > > > > neurologic damage."
> > > > > Not at all, this is a dumb uneducated girl talking.
> > > > > > She says it is a strange disorder where muscles work against each
> > > > > > other.
> > > > > She
> > > > > > Desiree's husband, Brendan, says, "It gets worse everyday. It's
> > > > > > heartbreaking to see."
> > > > > > Desiree says the disease is irreversible. Once she loses an
> > > > > > ability
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > doesn't come back. She says there are only three ways you can
> > > > > > getdystonia
> > > > > > as an adult and they include head trauma, drug use, and poisoning.
> > > > > > While the Centers for Disease Control cannot comment directly on
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > case, they say they have no knowledge of a link between the
> > > > > > seasonal
> > > > > > flu
> > > > > > shot anddystonia.
> > > > > WELL, there you go. no link. thanks for posting this debunking.
> > > > > I new it was horseshit! lol
> > > > It appears that while Ms Jennings sincerely believes that she is a
> > > > victim of a adverse vaccine reaction, she is much more likely
> > > > suffering from psychogenicdystonia. The facts, not her conjecture,
> > > > are what really matters. It is impossible to get the flu from the
> > > > vaccine. Also, she accepts the Johns Hopkin's diagnosis ofdystonia,
> > > > but not the fact that they refer to her case as an example of
> > > > PsychogenicDystonia.
> > > >http://www.examiner.com/x-13791-Baltimore-Disease-Prevention-Examiner...
> > > > On the October 16, 2009, Fox News show, "The O'Reilly Factor", Dr.
> > > > Leigh Vinocur from the University of Maryland Medical System offered
> > > > an alternative cause to Ms. Jennings' syndrome. Dr. Vinocur stated
> > > > that there have been no cases ofdystoniaassociated with the flu
> > > > vaccine and that neurology experts at the University of Maryland were
> > > > using Ms. Jennings' case to teach neurology residents about
> > > > psychogenicdystonia.
> > > >Dystoniais a neurological disorder where twitches and other
> > > > repetitive, involuntary reactions occur. Normally, these repetitive
> > > > actions do not let up. In the interview videos, Ms. Jennings' symptoms
> > > > subside at times. According to Dr. Vinocur, neurologists saw the video
> > > > and were convinced it was psychogenic.
> > > > Psychogenic disorders do not mean that a person is faking their
> > > > symptoms. Rather, it means that the person truly believes that the
> > > > symptoms are real. However, there is no physiological reason for the
> > > > symptoms. It truly is all in their head. Examples include phantom limb
> > > > syndrome, where a hand that has been amputated along with a limb is
> > > > felt by the person as being clinched or still being there.
> > > > Psychotherapy or some medications to treat the mental issues can help
> > > > deal with psychogenic disorders.
> > > > Another important detail in Ms. Jennings' story is that she acquired
> > > > flu from the flu vaccine. This is a scientific impossiblity. The flu
> > > > virus in the injected vaccine is dead, inactive. In the solution being
> > > > injected, the virus has no cells in which to live and reproduce.
> > > > Viruses are, by definition, obligate intracellular parasites. They
> > > > need cells to live, grow, and reproduce. There has been no recorded
> > > > case of acquired flu from the flu shot vaccine. Likewise, if true, Ms.
> > > > Jennings would be the first case ofdystoniaas a result of the flu
> > > > vaccine. Furthermore, the Food and Drug Administration did not find
> > > > anything wrong or different about the lot of vaccine used.

> > > Of course not. With their vested interests and lies.
> > > Seeing is believing.

> > Like I said, you have to know how to interpret what you are seeing.
> > And, anyway, merely seeing something does not prove causality.

> > All of you anti-vacs love to cite VAERS to prove causality, when it is
> > not designed for that. I went a-hunting and found this:

> > This VAERS report that may be Desiree Jennings:

> >http://www.examiner.com/x-13791-Baltimore-Disease-Prevention-Examiner...

> > Sore throat, nasal congestions, followed by fever, body aches, chills,
> > and headache.10/8/08 Medical records received, Dates of Service
> > 10/2-10/3/09. Diagnosis: Weakness. Pt. experienced sore throat,
> > congestion, body aches, chills, headache, fatigue and fever 3 days
> > after receiving the influenza vaccine. The fatigue continued for
> > almost 2 weeks during which the patient continued to work, but on
> > 9/12/09 she presented to the ED with generalized weakness,
> > lightheadedness and an episode of syncopy that was accompanied by
> > generalized convulsions. Admitted to the hospital from 9/12-9/14/09.
> > CK and LFT's were noted to be significantly elevated. Returned to work
> > on 9/17/09 and continued to experience nausea and syncope with all
> > over trembling and was readmitted to the hospital overnight. On 9/21
> > her PCP told her she had a positive ANA and lupus. Pt. began
> > experiencing chest pain, for which steroids were prescribed. She saw
> > an Infectious Disease MD on 9/22 and had a lumbar puncture which was
> > normal. Pt. began experiencing difficulty walking, chills, sweats,
> > tremors and vivid dreams with difficulty sleeping. She began having
> > headaches described as a ""cold spot"" on the back of her head, had
> > subsequently developed a stutter, but was able to speak clearly if she
> > whispered. Her symptoms persisted and progressed to erratic movements
> > of the toe, intermittent uncontrolled blinking, difficulty focusing,
> > uncontrolled shaking, cold feet and sharp pains in the legs. Upon this
> > admission the plan was to rule out GBS, MS, malignancy, Lyme and MG.
> > Pt. noted to have dystonia, speech dysfunction, gait dysfunction,
> > anxiety, SOB, photophobia, tinnitus in the left ear, and increase in
> > appetite, a 2 lb. weight loss. It was also noted that the symptoms
> > were worsened by warm water, especially at the knees. The admitting
> > neurologist felt that there was a strong psychogenic component to the
> > symptomology, and made a final diagnosis of weakness. 10/13/09 Medical
> > records received from dates 10/2/09-10/4/09 Presented to for eval of p
> > (REDACTED)"
> > (United States Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS), Public
> > Health Service (PHS), Centers for Disease Control (CDC) / Food and
> > Drug Administration (FDA), Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
> > (VAERS) 1990 - last week, CDC WONDER On-line Database Accessed
> > athttp://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.htmlonNov 4, 2009 10:20:23 AM)

> > -x-x-x-x-x-x-x

> > Cue the anti-vacs to discount this in some manner.

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