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Re: Memory-Map for distances

alan.les...@ukgateway.net (Alan White) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 23:10:06 UT

On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:55:20 GMT, wildenf...@btopenworld.com (Tim
Well, having used MM for about ten years I think we can assume that
I'm clever enough to have grasped the concept.
If you read my post more carefully, you'll see that it's the
definitions with which I was taking issue not the usage.
If you follow the thread more carefully, you'll also see that I've

Re: Where's Everyone Gone?

mrc7--...@cam.ac.uk (Mike Clark) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 19:31:41 UT

In message <4b1febdb$0$2491$db0fe...@news .zen.co.uk>
Yes it's a bit daunting in places because of the collapses you find
yourself precariously balancing across rotting timbers with sometimes
tens of metres of space below to the next level! Also when abseiling the
loose rock means that there is continuous danger of being struck or

Re: Where's Everyone Gone?

da...@cyw.uklinux.net (Dave Pickles) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 18:26:35 UT

Interesting photos, thanks. Especially interesting for me since my
great-great-great grandfather was the subject of this newspaper report
(not for the squeamish!):
[link]
I'm another long-time URW-er who seems to have been only lurking for the

Re: Memory-Map for distances

wildenf...@btopenworld.com (Tim Jones) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 17:55:20 UT

On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:38:07 +0000, Alan White
No "rot has set in"!
The ability toi upload and use tracks created on MM is exceddingly
useful as long as you're clever enough to grasp the concept!

Re: Where's Everyone Gone?

p...@p-t-cook.freeserve.co.uk (Phil Cook) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 17:37:02 UT

It's not original to me though. It was used in here a long time ago
when we were sometimes mates in a real pub.

Re: Where's Everyone Gone?

mrc7--...@cam.ac.uk (Mike Clark) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 15:23:29 UT

In message <1e6e74c450.Sim...@helvellyn.p lus.com>
I've been doing some mine exploration too. (Lake District and North
Wales)
See [link]
Mike

Re: Where's Everyone Gone?

vtheenem...@v-g.me.uk (GeoffC) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 13:36:14 UT

A bit late picking up on this, from the names it looks like a ukrw
reunion thread.
I found the number of walking posts on ukrw dwindling and the spam
increasing, and I assumed people were deserting a sinking ship. I only
returned to it just recently as a test, when I switched to Thunderbird
for combined email and news. It's a pity really, NGs make a more

Re: OT: Knickers

n...@cam.ac.uk — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 12:20:44 UT

In article <rr4vh5ttt13b00pnslb7sigehv4mp g4...@4ax.com>,
Traditional compass boxers went up to 32-way. E.g. north-north-west
by west.
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Re: OT: Knickers

blthe...@ckdog.co.uk (Geoff Berrow) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 12:12:34 UT

On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:21:56 -0800 (PST), Jell <jellsm...@gmail.com>
wrote:
LOL, I thought that. It /could/ mean 8 points of the compass. But
does that mean there is absolutely no chance of 16 way stretch?

Re: OT: Knickers

giraffenos....@homecall.co.uk (PeterC) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 11:15:12 UT

I'd take 'em off for that!

Re: OT: Knickers

s...@home.inv (S. B.) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 10:18:23 UT

Jell wrote:
The three spatial dimensions plus time each forwards and backwards?

Re: OT: Knickers

jellsm...@gmail.com (Jell) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 08:21:56 UT

Can anyone tell me what "8-way stretch" is? I don't even know what "4-
way stretch" when I see it in adverts for soft shell trousers etc. I
ran out of imagination when I got to 3 dimensions. 4-way is beyond
me, and 8-way is far into the realms of science fiction!
Jell

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Re: OT: Knickers

cobalt_blu...@yahoo.com (Jhimmy) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 23:06:31 UT

OH NO he isn't !
Jhimmy

Re: OT: Knickers

blthe...@ckdog.co.uk (Geoff Berrow) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 19:36:04 UT

Heh...
Yeah the first thing I thought when I saw that was Betty Swollox...

Re: OT: Knickers

giraffenos....@homecall.co.uk (PeterC) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 19:11:12 UT

Stretching it a bit.
Perhaps less discomfort when wet from rain on the hills, cf cotton.

Re: OT: Knickers

no.spam.for.goofif.ple...@aol.com (Judith) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 18:52:50 UT

On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:19:12 +0000, PeterC
He's BEHIND you!

Re: OT: Knickers

s...@home.inv (S. B.) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 18:26:46 UT

I see that they're made of 96% polyamide and 6% elastane,
so you definately got more for your money.
Can underwear made entirely of synthetic fibres really give
"maximum comfort"?

Re: Mountain Bothies Association: mailing of MBA Handbook

le...@moremail.com (Richard Webb) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 17:48:26 UT

I often wondered how they justified a £20 subscription........
That particular renewal notice hit the recycling bin rather fast.
R Webb

Re: Where's Everyone Gone?

oakes...@googlemail.com (Martin Richardson) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 16:32:15 UT

I already borrowed the phrase from Phil C. somewhere else in this
thread

Re: How long does it take to do the Wainwrights?

oakes...@googlemail.com (Martin Richardson) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 16:29:50 UT

I hate [link] with a vengeance. It always come up in Google
searches when you put in the name of any hill and offers sod all.

Re: How long does it take to do the Wainwrights?

oakes...@googlemail.com (Martin Richardson) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 16:25:47 UT

I have done all the Wainwright summits - however, not all the routes
up them. I did the majority back in the 80s .i.e before GPS, internet
and online maps etc. so I bought a one-inch flat map of the Lake
District and have drawn on it a black line showing every walk/cycle/
kayak journey I have ever done there. Much of the map has a resulting

Re: Where's Everyone Gone?

blthe...@ckdog.co.uk (Geoff Berrow) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 16:14:57 UT

On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:01:24 -0800 (PST), Martin Richardson
Great description 'mates down the pub'. I may borrow that.

Re: Where's Everyone Gone?

oakes...@googlemail.com (Martin Richardson) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 16:01:24 UT

Interesting question - and it is noticeable how RHB is also very quiet
at present. My excuses are sort of explained below.
I have still been out on the hills as much as I can. My continuous
obsession with Marilyns is taking me further and further north -
weekends in the Trossachs and on the Cowal are major journeys though.

Re: OT: Knickers

giraffenos....@homecall.co.uk (PeterC) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 14:19:12 UT

Who's he?

Re: Memory-Map for distances

notcheckede...@hotmail.com (Paul - xxx) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 11:37:06 UT

I use MM on a PDA and Laptop. At home I make routes by adding
waypoints in and 'joining the dots'. When out on the trail I follow
the routes, and the software records my tracks, ie where I've been.
However I can also subsequently follow previous tracks or routes,
depending whether I want to follow compass directions to waypoints in a

Re: Memory-Map for distances

alan.les...@ukgateway.net (Alan White) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 11:01:09 UT

On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:23:11 +0000, Dominic Sexton
Hmmph :-)

Re: Memory-Map for distances

{d-sep...@dscs.demon.co.uk (Dominic Sexton) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 10:23:11 UT

In article <t70rh5hdjnlt16rp7b7lu1n9o75h2 6b...@4ax.com>, Alan White
<alan.les...@ukgateway.net> writes
As soon as Garmin allowed users to upload 'tracks' the situation
changed. Potentially confusing as it may be to those of us in at the
start that is how it is now.
The original Garmin situation of navigating 'routes' and recording

Re: OT: Knickers

n...@cam.ac.uk — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 22:42:05 UT

In article <1epnflrqt3yd8$.1n0qjb5w8xred$ ....@40tude.net>,
So you're Widow Twankey in the pantomime, this year, are you?
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Re: Memory-Map for distances

alan.les...@ukgateway.net (Alan White) — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 22:38:07 UT

On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:30:25 GMT, wildenf...@btopenworld.com (Tim Jones)
wrote:
I'm sorry but it isn't.
In the good old days when I bought my first GPSR, a Garmin GPS40 in
1994(?) (and still working), there was no confusion about this at all.
If you wanted to follow a route, you created the waypoints (not marks as

Re: Memory-Map for distances

p...@p-t-cook.freeserve.co.uk (Phil Cook) — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 21:52:32 UT

For GPS use a route is a set of linked waypoints.
A track is the actual non straight line path between the waypoints.

Re: Memory-Map for distances

wildenf...@btopenworld.com (Tim Jones) — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 20:30:25 UT

On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:40:31 +0000, Alan White
Whats a farm track then ;)
In GPS terms the difference between a track and a route is the way you
use them on your GPS. It is perfectly correct that you can create and
upload either depending on how you wish to use your GPS.

OT: Knickers

giraffenos....@homecall.co.uk (PeterC) — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 20:02:01 UT

Follow up th the mention of Ultra Fit Plain Sport Briefs a couple of weeks
ago:
went to M&S in MK today and there was an offer of 'buy 1, get 1 half
price', so bought 4 for £18 instead of £24.
Just in case any one wants some (Northampton store isn't big enough to
stock 'em, so worth looking at the 'participating stores' link)..

British Geological Survey

giraffenos....@homecall.co.uk (PeterC) — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 19:31:52 UT

The BGS has opened some of its data for public download. There are maps,
pictures etc. that might be of interest to us (couldn't really explore the
site as it's busy):
[link]

Re: ping Jhimmy

inva...@nospam (Theo) — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 18:43:50 UT

"Bill Grey" <bill.g...@btinternet.com> schreef in bericht
To be certain I checked specifications on [link] and this is what
it says about focussing in videomode :
Auto focus during movie recording works in the same way that it does in
normal live view mode, meaning that if it is activated in live view mode, it

Re: ping Jhimmy

bill.g...@btinternet.com (Bill Grey) — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 13:03:26 UT

videofeature on the 500D makes it more expensive.
I miss-read your initial poast about manual focussing. I see it refers to
the video side of things.
I once had a fully auto camcorder and was useless if I wanted to "film"
anything with a few twigs between me and my subject. I changed my camcorder

Re: ping Jhimmy

bill.g...@btinternet.com (Bill Grey) — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 12:57:34 UT

That can't be right surely?
With Canon's reputation for accurate auto focus, who'd want to manually
focus anyway ?

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Re: Where's Everyone Gone?

b...@yoss1960.ukfsn.org (Yo$$1960) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 20:29:16 UT

Err, he's a she. That's what that's all about.

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Re: Where's Everyone Gone?

malcolmogi...@gmail.com (MAOgilvie@indaal.co.uk) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 13:37:05 UT

PS, I should have added that I also spend most of the wet and
miserable nights of the year reading poetry.
I recently came across a really skilled poet called Duffy. He has me
gripped. Absolutely 1st class stuff. Bizarrely, however, he's called
Carol. What's that all about?
[link]

Re: Where's Everyone Gone?

malcolmogi...@gmail.com (MAOgilvie@indaal.co.uk) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 13:28:21 UT

Well, I still lurk but I can't be bothered to post much, partly
because I don't see much of interest but mainly because I have spent
much of the past 18 months trying to build flood defences around my
land. I have been trying to raise awareness on the island that they
don't have much time, but no-one seems to be listening to me. The

Re: Where's Everyone Gone?

b...@yoss1960.ukfsn.org (Yo$$1960) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:15:06 UT

I made my two kids walk the mile and a quarter on the first day, only to
be turned away, as the head and two teachers couldn't get in. As for
driving, many do here, yes. However, with kids coming from more than 3
miles away and out of catchment area, they're not entitled to free school
transport, and the price the council charge to put kids on the bus means

Re: Where's Everyone Gone?

no.spam.for.goofif.ple...@aol.com (Judith) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:27:52 UT

On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 16:43:10 +0000, Phil Cook
I think the National Park may have bye-laws against things like that.
Judith

Re: Where's Everyone Gone?

p...@p-t-cook.freeserve.co.uk (Phil Cook) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:46:01 UT

That is more due to elfin safety and the fact that parents drive their
preciouses to school than any real reason though :-(
Often at 3000+ feet in February in Scotland I find great big patches
of green :-(

Re: Where's Everyone Gone?

p...@p-t-cook.freeserve.co.uk (Phil Cook) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:43:10 UT

That's no good I'd still be the firstborn son. I could always kill a
lamb and daub some of it's blood on my tent flaps. I wonder what
bitter herbs I could find in the ELD?

Re: Memory-Map for distances

alan.les...@ukgateway.net (Alan White) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:40:31 UT

On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:21:56 +0000, Craig Wallace
Yes, Memory Map's got it wrong and it's misleading.
Imagine walking through the snow. Behind you is your track; in front of
you is your route.