Gordon Pirie originally wrote it (it's a short read), and Dr. John Gilbody had it on gordonpirie.com. I came across it when I first started running and I found it to be inspirational as Pirie was clearly a runner who was very confident and one who beat Zatopek. The original PDF file was in dire need of some beautification as well as formatting to make it more readable so I offered to fix it up and eventually I'll have the photos in the other PDF set up as a slideshow, along with a small discussion forum for the book.
I found the section of footwear to be especially interesting, again someone (Pirie) who advocated minimalist footwear as being fundamental to running properly and efficiently.
If anything it's a look back into some of the training the runner's of the past put themselves through.
> Gordon Pirie originally wrote it (it's a short read), and Dr. John > Gilbody had it on gordonpirie.com. I came across it when I first > started running and I found it to be inspirational as Pirie was > clearly a runner who was very confident and one who beat Zatopek. The > original PDF file was in dire need of some beautification as well as > formatting to make it more readable so I offered to fix it up and > eventually I'll have the photos in the other PDF set up as a > slideshow, along with a small discussion forum for the book.
> I found the section of footwear to be especially interesting, again > someone (Pirie) who advocated minimalist footwear as being fundamental > to running properly and efficiently.
I read this a few years ago and switched from normal training shoes to lightweight flats for virtually all my running (except muddy off-road stuff). I've never looked back - flats are cheaper, much more comfortable and I've been more or less injury-free ever since. I'm 52, 5' 10" and weigh 10st 9lb (149lb). YMMV.
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:22:13 -0800 (PST), Edward wrote: > On Nov 6, 10:41 pm, Edward Edmonds <edward.edmo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Thought I'd share this with ya'll:
> I read this a few years ago and switched from normal training shoes to > lightweight flats for virtually all my running (except muddy off-road > stuff). I've never looked back - flats are cheaper, much more > comfortable and I've been more or less injury-free ever since. I'm > 52, 5' 10" and weigh 10st 9lb (149lb). YMMV.
Any specific lightweight flats you can recommend? I'm very interested in the idea and will need some new shoes soon, but I'm not sure what to go for. My local running shop is no help. I knew a guy in his 60s who did a lot of miles injury free and ran in something like this:
I'm not sure I can bring myself to go that basic, particularly when running with others. But I rapidly seem to get back in to expensive stuff when I look for anything else.
>> I read this a few years ago and switched from normal training shoes to >> lightweight flats for virtually all my running (except muddy off-road >> stuff). I've never looked back - flats are cheaper, much more >> comfortable and I've been more or less injury-free ever since. I'm >> 52, 5' 10" and weigh 10st 9lb (149lb). YMMV.
> Any specific lightweight flats you can recommend? I'm very interested in > the idea and will need some new shoes soon, but I'm not sure what to go > for. My local running shop is no help. I knew a guy in his 60s who did a > lot of miles injury free and ran in something like this:
> I'm not sure I can bring myself to go that basic, particularly when running > with others. But I rapidly seem to get back in to expensive stuff when I > look for anything else.
You'll be hard pressed to find a modern flat that cheap. Most flats these days from any major shoe company are going to be $80+.
Today I recorded a video on some things to look for in flats, particularly midsole flexibility, I show several different flats I've worn; while the video doesn't focus on one particular flat, you should be able to get an idea of what to look for.
If you don't feel like me ramble on about midsole flexibility then here are a few to consider:
Adidas adiZero PR Mizuno Wave Universe 2 or 3 Adidas adiZero Pro New Balance RC152 Asics Piranha SP2
I will post the link to the video once it's finished uploading to the web.
On Nov 10, 6:54 pm, EDWARD EDMONDS <edward.edmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I'm not sure I can bring myself to go that basic, particularly when running > > with others. But I rapidly seem to get back in to expensive stuff when I > > look for anything else.
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> If you don't feel like me ramble on about midsole flexibility then here > are a few to consider:
> Adidas adiZero PR > Mizuno Wave Universe 2 or 3 > Adidas adiZero Pro > New Balance RC152 > Asics Piranha SP2
The Nike Lunaracers should not be left out. The best of the racing flats that I have ever had.
They are relatively new and not as well known as they should be imho.
> >> I read this a few years ago and switched from normal training shoes to > >> lightweight flats for virtually all my running (except muddy off-road > >> stuff). I've never looked back - flats are cheaper, much more > >> comfortable and I've been more or less injury-free ever since. I'm > >> 52, 5' 10" and weigh 10st 9lb (149lb). YMMV.
> > Any specific lightweight flats you can recommend? I'm very interested in > > the idea and will need some new shoes soon, but I'm not sure what to go > > for. My local running shop is no help. I knew a guy in his 60s who did a > > lot of miles injury free and ran in something like this:
> > I'm not sure I can bring myself to go that basic, particularly when running > > with others. But I rapidly seem to get back in to expensive stuff when I > > look for anything else.
> You'll be hard pressed to find a modern flat that cheap. Most flats > these days from any major shoe company are going to be $80+.
> Today I recorded a video on some things to look for in flats, > particularly midsole flexibility, I show several different flats I've > worn; while the video doesn't focus on one particular flat, you should > be able to get an idea of what to look for.
> If you don't feel like me ramble on about midsole flexibility then here > are a few to consider:
> Adidas adiZero PR > Mizuno Wave Universe 2 or 3 > Adidas adiZero Pro > New Balance RC152 > Asics Piranha SP2
> I will post the link to the video once it's finished uploading to the web.
I have a tendency to ramble, but hopefully you get the main point that flexibility is key and that just because a shoe is advertised or marketed as a flat doesn't always qualify it as a flat in reality.
> > >> I read this a few years ago and switched from normal training shoes to > > >> lightweight flats for virtually all my running (except muddy off-road > > >> stuff). I've never looked back - flats are cheaper, much more > > >> comfortable and I've been more or less injury-free ever since. I'm > > >> 52, 5' 10" and weigh 10st 9lb (149lb). YMMV.
> > > Any specific lightweight flats you can recommend? I'm very interested in > > > the idea and will need some new shoes soon, but I'm not sure what to go > > > for. My local running shop is no help. I knew a guy in his 60s who did a > > > lot of miles injury free and ran in something like this:
> > > I'm not sure I can bring myself to go that basic, particularly when running > > > with others. But I rapidly seem to get back in to expensive stuff when I > > > look for anything else.
> > You'll be hard pressed to find a modern flat that cheap. Most flats > > these days from any major shoe company are going to be $80+.
> > Today I recorded a video on some things to look for in flats, > > particularly midsole flexibility, I show several different flats I've > > worn; while the video doesn't focus on one particular flat, you should > > be able to get an idea of what to look for.
> > If you don't feel like me ramble on about midsole flexibility then here > > are a few to consider:
> > Adidas adiZero PR > > Mizuno Wave Universe 2 or 3 > > Adidas adiZero Pro > > New Balance RC152 > > Asics Piranha SP2
> > I will post the link to the video once it's finished uploading to the web.
> I have a tendency to ramble, but hopefully you get the main point that > flexibility is key and that just because a shoe is advertised or > marketed as a flat doesn't always qualify it as a flat in reality.
What? Now E**2, you are not suggesting that shoe companies would tell quasi fibs to promote a product? I took Viagra for 6 months and still could not throw the football through the tire hanging from the branch. A stalking horse?" :) :)
On Nov 11, 7:32 am, pithydoug <dfre...@hvc.rr.com> wrote:
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> What? Now E**2, you are not suggesting that shoe companies would tell > quasi fibs to promote a product? I took Viagra for 6 months and still > could not throw the football through the tire hanging from the branch. > A stalking horse?" :) :)
I like the E**2 monikor or maybe just ee ... maybe we would all be posting youtube videos if we looked like him eh?
Charlie maybe you should get in the game here we only have i2's to backup the idea that you provide the ladies some eye candy!
I did not see much of the video and had the sound off apparently the first 20 seconds ... so Doug you lost me on the stalking horse reference.
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:22:13 -0800 (PST), Edward wrote: > > On Nov 6, 10:41 pm, Edward Edmonds <edward.edmo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thought I'd share this with ya'll:
> > I read this a few years ago and switched from normal training shoes to > > lightweight flats for virtually all my running (except muddy off-road > > stuff). I've never looked back - flats are cheaper, much more > > comfortable and I've been more or less injury-free ever since. I'm > > 52, 5' 10" and weigh 10st 9lb (149lb). YMMV.
> Any specific lightweight flats you can recommend? I'm very interested in > the idea and will need some new shoes soon, but I'm not sure what to go > for. My local running shop is no help. I knew a guy in his 60s who did a > lot of miles injury free and ran in something like this:
> I'm not sure I can bring myself to go that basic, particularly when running > with others. But I rapidly seem to get back in to expensive stuff when I > look for anything else.
I use Nike Mayfly - they're dirt cheap (under 20 UKP), last for ages (don't believe the rubbish about 100k - my current pair have done 300 miles and counting). I tend to buy last year's models on-line, so they're generally end of the line (Acics Gel Hyperspeed are also in my kit bag - they're pretty good). However, I did treat myself recently to some Adidas adiZero Manos, and they are just the best shoes I've run in for a very long time. Pure delight. I'm eyeing a pair of Adidas adiZero Adios - a friend runs in them and he says they're superb.
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