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Re: Global Warming: Trick or Treat?

bobja...@btinternet.com (bobjanes) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 23:47:47 UT

A line or two in words of one syllable would do. But you can't do it
can you?
Do you ever think Global Warming is the new religion? It has a messiah
in Al Gore (the man who couldn't beat George Bush), an apocalyptic
vision, no scientific basis, a dependence on the esoteric, a refusal
to discuss inconvenient facts, and a final appeal to faith over

Re: Seaton beach nudist plan rejected

bobja...@btinternet.com (bobjanes) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 23:16:34 UT

Not so. It increases the harassment by giving credence to the lie that
it is in any way unlawful anywhere.
Bob

Review: The Naked Office, Bravo, Monday 10pm

annalidd...@lycos.com (Anna) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 19:02:46 UT

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Review: The Naked Office, Bravo, Monday 10pm

annalidd...@lycos.com (Anna) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 19:02:15 UT

Naked cyclist spotted on river towpath between Barnes and Twickenham

annalidd...@lycos.com (Anna) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 18:50:50 UT

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A naked cyclist has been exposing himself to women along towpaths
next to the River Thames.
Richmond police are investigating three formal complaints about the
cyclist.
A police spokeswoman said the incidents were first reported in the

From where I sit: Northern exposure

annalidd...@lycos.com (Anna) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 17:53:26 UT

There is a comment section at the end of the original article.
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Re: Steve Gough ('The Naked Rambler')

duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk (Duncan Heenan) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 21:03:37 UT

I can't help feeling sorry for an isolated guy sitting in jail for a
principle I think we might all agree with, even if his method of pursuit of
it isn't what we'd do. I thought his antics on the aeroplane were a bit
uncalled for, but the Scottish Judicial treatment he has received has been
wholly disproportionate to anything he may have done.

Re: Steve Gough ('The Naked Rambler')

replacewithmyforen...@allblue.f9.co.uk (Peter) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 20:50:17 UT

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:08:42 -0800 (PST), genuinenaturists
I think you're missing the point here. He's done nothing to hurt
anyone, and yet he's been locked up. It's the Scottish legal system
that needs to be fixed. There's no good reason for him to give in. OK,
his position is rather more extreme than probably anyone else here

Re: Steve Gough ('The Naked Rambler')

genuinenaturi...@gmail.com (genuinenaturists) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 17:08:42 UT

To Duncan. We are not closet naturists. For many years now we have
been club members. Have attended many indoor functions, & appeared on
TV a lot over the years. I just do not understand this support for
Steve . Perhaps he prefers free bed & board, to living on the outside.
So prison for him, cannot be that bad

Re: Steve Gough ('The Naked Rambler')

fatm...@hotmail.com (Sheila & Les) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 16:33:01 UT

I agree with the points made by Pete
Les

Re: Steve Gough ('The Naked Rambler')

duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk (Duncan Heenan) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 13:18:30 UT

Well said, Pete. 100% right!

Topless charity stunt upsets Hoddesdon school

seymour_...@ymail.com (Seymour Cox) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 13:11:34 UT

Topless charity stunt upsets Hoddesdon school
[link]
“A primary school worker from Hoddesdon has apologised for posing
topless for her women’s rugby club’s calendar without telling her
employer”.
There are some incredibly small minded attitudes towards toplessness

Re: Steve Gough ('The Naked Rambler')

peteknig...@googlemail.com (Pete Knight) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 12:16:52 UT

On 29 Nov, 10:03, Peter <REPLACEWITHMYFOREN...@allblue .f9.co.uk>
wrote:
And bearing in mind the recent release of Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi, a
convicted terrorist who was involved in the murder of 270 people on
Pan Am flight 103, doesn't it make the continued confinement of Steve
Gough for simple nudity appear all the more stupid?

Re: Steve Gough ('The Naked Rambler')

replacewithmyforen...@allblue.f9.co.uk (Peter) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 10:03:08 UT

On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:05:39 -0800 (PST), genuinenaturists
I also resent seeing my taxes wasted in this way. However, in my view,
the problem lies not with Mr Gough, but with the Scottish judiciary.
Their attitude to his behaviour does the legal system no favours -
it's simply barking mad, and brings the law into disrepute. With jails

Re: Global Warming: Trick or Treat?

c...@xemaps.com (Richard Burnham) — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 23:31:18 UT

I'm quite sure that if it was piled high in front of you you'd say it
wasn't there.
I simply advise people to read the Copenhagen Diagnosis document. It's
written in plain English, gives references to original work and it
takes into account the work of sceptics.
[link]
Richard Burnham

Re: Global Warming: Trick or Treat?

c...@xemaps.com (Richard Burnham) — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 23:24:34 UT

On Nov 28, 10:58 pm, Steve Doerr <REVERSEdoerr.st...@blueyonder .co.uk>
wrote:
By taking quotations out of context, you can claim anything. It's an
old trick, called quote mining, long used by creationists to try to
claim that scientists do not really believe in evolution:
[link]

Re: Steve Gough ('The Naked Rambler')

duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk (Duncan Heenan) — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 23:01:21 UT

And all gay people had to do was to keep quiet about it and it wouldn't have
had to be made legal, eh? And if only women had stayed in the kitchen they'd
never have needed the vote, eh? And if Nelson Mandella had just said 'Yes
master', he could have come out of jail, eh?
Steve Gough is a campaigner, not a criminal. To 'put his clothes on' is to

Re: Global Warming: Trick or Treat?

reversedoerr.st...@blueyonder.co.uk (Steve Doerr) — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 22:58:10 UT

It certainly seems like they've been 'sexing up' their dossiers:
<[link]>.

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reversedoerr.step...@blueyonder.co.uk (SD Web Updates) — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 22:50:06 UT

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[News]
Carols by Candlelight Service
Saturday 12th December at 5.15 p.m. - followed by a Christmas meal at 7.30
which is £7.50 per person and needs to be pre-booked.

Re: Steve Gough ('The Naked Rambler')

initial.surn...@btintenret.com (Marc) — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 20:21:42 UT

Does not compute!

Re: Steve Gough ('The Naked Rambler')

genuinenaturi...@gmail.com (genuinenaturists) — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 20:05:39 UT

All the silly b*g*e* had to do was put clothes on to stop being put in
jail. Quite simple. I object MOST STRONGLY that my taxes are helping
to keep him locked up. Keep him there & thro away the key . Refuse to
feed him & then see what happens.

Steve Gough ('The Naked Rambler')

duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk (Duncan Heenan) — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 13:40:55 UT

Steve Gough, who you may know was arrested in Scotland over 2 years ago for
nothing worse than trying to peacefully walk from Lands End to John
O'Groats, is still in jail and about to face his second Christmas there. I
have just had the a letter from him, which is quite up-beat and optimistic.
However, he is handling his own appeals and needs legal advice and

Re: Global Warming: Trick or Treat?

initial.surn...@btintenret.com (Marc) — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 13:30:36 UT

You give yourself too much credit,I don't pay that much attention to
you. Everyone here gets the same from me, it's opinions that influence
responses.

Re: Global Warming: Trick or Treat?

duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk (Duncan Heenan) — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 13:05:05 UT

It would inded be good to have a few more 'gentlemen' posting on URN. Some
ladies too, if they could ignore some of the rudeness that goes on.

Re: Global Warming: Trick or Treat?

ast...@supanet.com (Hamish) — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 11:43:39 UT

You are far too polite & unassuming for this group so "gerroff" ( Just
kidding) I do agree that some of the stuff we write would probably
end in fisticuffs if said face to face, so i suppose it`s a less
violent way of letting off steam. For instance Marc gets my hackles
up ( & probably vice versa) & i can let him know what i think of his

Re: Global Warming: Trick or Treat?

kwl...@yahoo.co.uk (Keith of Mid Wales) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 21:52:53 UT

Thank you. Need it make them ruder? In one of the last courses I
taught, roughly introductory IT, I used to warn about this very
danger.
Roughly again: if you're rude to someone face to face then he might
sock you; if you write a rude letter then before you send it you
should re-read it and perhaps think again; if you put up a rude poster

Re: Global Warming: Trick or Treat?

initial.surn...@btintenret.com (Marc) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 21:15:33 UT

Nahh, just can't be bothered in giving a reply to you much effort.

Re: Fully nude forthcoming events at Eureka Naturist Club, Kent

rebust...@googlemail.com (rebustion) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 19:17:15 UT

A subject discussed over lunch at Spielplatz last Sunday as it
happens! The number of legs apart and priapic shots included in its
members profiles sections came in for much comment.

Re: Fully nude forthcoming events at Eureka Naturist Club, Kent

duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk (Duncan Heenan) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 17:15:32 UT

How odd that Eureka's Photo Gallery seems to show almost exclusively groups
of men posed with a single blond lady.

Fully nude forthcoming events at Eureka Naturist Club, Kent

kieran1...@yahoo.com (kieran1000) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 12:15:38 UT

Eureka naturist club near Dartford in Kent is an all-year-round club
with an excellent spa and indoor facilities. Here are some fully
naturist forthcoming events:
NAKED THURSDAY 3 DECEMBER
Fully nude social evening, with pool & darts tournaments and karaoke
session. The club recently acquired a top of the range full-size pool

Re: Seaton beach nudist plan rejected

n...@stoppage.gwalter.co.uk (John Gwalter) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 08:46:06 UT

Because official recognition can significantly reduce the amount of
harassment to which naturists are subjected.

Re: Global Warming: Trick or Treat?

david.loo...@btinternet.com (David Looser) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 08:19:26 UT

"Duncan Heenan" <duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote
I don't know about making people more "stupid", but I think you are right,
it does make people more inclined to be honest in their assessment of
another's views, rather than diplomatic as we might be face-to-face.
But there's more to it than that, text-only communication deprives us of

Re: Global Warming: Trick or Treat?

duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk (Duncan Heenan) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 08:08:53 UT

I sometimes wonder why I don't follow the example of various people I
respect and drop out of this group. I am totally fed up with the
unpleasant tone of so many postings in it.
I've asked before why this happens in a newsgroup devoted to a hobby
that is so gentle and rewarding. After some thought I can't bring to

Re: 4rd Annual Naked Bungy Jump for Schizophrenia February 27 and 28, 2010 - Canada

enertro...@gmail.com (enertronik) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 06:21:55 UT

I went last year (2009) and it was so much fun. I can't wait to attend
again in 2010. Everyone was so cool and we all had a great time. And
it's for a great cause!

Re: Video: Leading Muslim attacks Nudism

absolutel...@yahoo.com (Lane) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 04:16:45 UT

REMITROM <remitro...@yahoo.com> wrote in
Actually, what will lead to our destruction is trigger-happy idiots like
you who believe that you can bomb into submission people who believe
that dying for their cause is their route to heaven.
I'm glad you're not in charge. McCain either, for that matter.

Re: Dame Helen Mirren was never comfortable with nudity despite being praised by nudists/naturists.

jonz...@webtv.net (Zee) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 03:19:06 UT

On Nov 26, 6:07 am, "Duncan Heenan" <duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk>
wrote:
just saw the calendar flic on bbc america......soooo from the us
perspective......i am still wondering if any social redeeming value
could be attached to that production.....but it seems there is not
really any....and it does not contribute to the positive benefit of

Re: Seaton beach nudist plan rejected

bobja...@btinternet.com (bobjanes) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 01:16:17 UT

If John Thompson thought that being naked anywhere you liked was not
unlawful, and he is quite correct, then why the fuck did he make some
application to a bunch of wankers at the council for a ghetto?
Bob

Re: Global Warming: Trick or Treat?

bobja...@btinternet.com (bobjanes) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 00:22:37 UT

Your reply is a little disjointed. Bin on the juice?
The displacement of the Greenland ice cover is calculated to increase
sea levels by 20 foot. But whilst the edges are melting, the interior
is getting thicker. So it's not going to happen. And tell me would the
Maldives' loss not be Greenland's gain? And why is one preferable

Re: Video: Leading Muslim attacks Nudism

remitro...@yahoo.com (REMITROM) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 00:22:08 UT

The "turn the other cheek" or Kumbaya response simply shows weakness
to the Arab culture; a weakness to be exploited.
The ONLY thing that will "lead to our destruction" would be to be
foolish enough to allow them to arm themselves with nuclear weapons.
One of the few things John McCain got right was his statement, "Bomb,

Re: Global Warming: Trick or Treat?

bobja...@btinternet.com (bobjanes) — Thu, 11 Nov 2009 23:44:43 UT

That's my take. If I didn't know you better I might have thought you
were being ironic.
And the empirical evidence for anthropogenic global warming is?
The Royal Society doesn't exactly have a great record. It's more a
case of Kipling's monkeys. It must be true, because we all say so.
I'm sure your grandchild will be fine once we're all groping about in

Re: Global Warming: Trick or Treat?

kwl...@yahoo.co.uk (Keith of Mid Wales) — Thu, 11 Nov 2009 23:18:13 UT

Re: Global Warming: Trick or Treat?

initial.surn...@btintenret.com (Marc) — Thu, 11 Nov 2009 23:16:50 UT

I see that you can't manage to hold to ideas at the same time.
But if Al Gore, the man that couldn't even beat George
No point, did you miss the bit where I said "I
doubt you have the background to understand the question let alone
explain the process"? You have done nothing to persuade me that I was

Re: Global Warming: Trick or Treat?

bobja...@btinternet.com (bobjanes) — Thu, 11 Nov 2009 22:35:36 UT

Dunno how I'll cope without Threshers.
Now you know us hacks are not comfortable with words of more than one
syllable. So what is the point of trying to reflect the visible part
of the spectrum back into space if the infrared can't escape the
atmosphere? But if Al Gore, the man that couldn't even beat George

Re: Global Warming: Trick or Treat?

initial.surn...@btintenret.com (Marc) — Thu, 11 Nov 2009 18:23:04 UT

So you want intelligence and humility?
Yep, it's over rated.
& the norm for you is
This is meant to be a new insight?
You are the new Jerry :-
I'm sure that Jelly won't be happy about you saying that.
Hamish.

Re: Guy Faints as Anna Friel does nude scene.

t...@hotmail.com (tom smyth) — Thu, 11 Nov 2009 16:56:15 UT

I sometimes faint when all the blood flows to my penis.
--smyth--

Re: Dame Helen Mirren was never comfortable with nudity despite being praised by nudists/naturists.

jonz...@webtv.net (Zee) — Thu, 11 Nov 2009 15:45:34 UT

On Nov 26, 6:07 am, "Duncan Heenan" <duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk>
wrote:
duncan...dream on...do let me be the first one to know when you find
tony blairs wife sunbathing at brighton.....a nice close up pic would
be super good.....jz

Re: Dame Helen Mirren was never comfortable with nudity despite being praised by nudists/naturists.

duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk (Duncan Heenan) — Thu, 11 Nov 2009 12:07:43 UT

Yes, I agree. Even I might feel a tad uneasy at having several film cameras
scrutinizing my naked bod in a simulated sexual context (as most of her film
nudity was pre Calendar Girls). I recall her saying in an interview that she
loved naturist beaches, which is indeed a different thing altogether, and I

Re: Dame Helen Mirren was never comfortable with nudity despite being praised by nudists/naturists.

peteknig...@googlemail.com (Pete Knight) — Thu, 11 Nov 2009 10:47:17 UT

I think she was talking about the nude acting rather than her nude
recreation, the difference being that on a film set she would have
been the only one naked among a clothed crew, a lot different to
enjoying nature alone on a beach or at home.
Pete

Re: Dame Helen Mirren was never comfortable with nudity despite being praised by nudists/naturists.

duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk (Duncan Heenan) — Thu, 11 Nov 2009 09:52:14 UT

This article is the ONLY time such a position was expressed by a 64-
year-old woman with a 42 year film career in which she has appeared on
film or on television in at least 113 different projects (with 7
either as yet unreleased or in pre or post production) according to
imdb.com.
Isn't it just a bit suspicious that she'd wait until now to announce