It is regrettable, but typical of them, that FINA have once again crumbled under commercial pressure from costume manufacturers and allowed all polyurethane swim suits in competition, notably the imminent World Championships. If FINA cares about the sport, rather than the industry which is taking it over, it should roll back the ever onward march of high tech equipment in to a sport which should be one person against others regardless of who can afford the best gear. The only way to even-up competition is to insist that all competitors wear identical suits, set on a world standard, preferably supplied on a random selection basis by the meet organisers to avoid cheating. As all suits would then be equal, they need not be the highest of high-tech, as everyone would be equally affected by the design. There would be outcries by those obsessed with time records, but a line would have to be drawn under all records set under the old 'any costume' rules, and new record books would have to be opened under the new rules. The consequent debate over records would be never-ending, but no worse than the current debate which accompanies records achieved with the help of each new costume gizmo. It is time FINA, and the various National Swimming bodies, started to return swimming to real people who see it as part of life, not all of it. The ever widening gap between the elite, expensively funded few and the many who swim for fitness and fun does neither the sport nor society any good. Personally, I look forward to the day when FINA and all those who pay homage to them realise, as I did many years ago, that costumes are actually unnecessary anyway; swimming is much more pleasurable, and cheaper, without one at all! -- Duncan Heenan
> It is regrettable, but typical of them, that FINA have once again crumbled > under commercial pressure from costume manufacturers and allowed all > polyurethane swim suits in competition, notably the imminent World > Championships. SNIP > Personally, I look forward to the day when FINA and all those who pay > homage to them realise, as I did many years ago, that costumes are > actually unnecessary anyway; swimming is much more pleasurable, and > cheaper, without one at all! > -- > Duncan Heenan
I was wondering where you were going with this on this NG! but well said. Though one point my wife has been to 2 club soleil swims (but only able to go topless!) and the point she raised that she wasn't able to swim "properly" without her bosoms hurting? not something that I'd considered (but should've) and wondered how naturist time fare against costumed times. the point is is more raised as my wife if no "Jordan" and therefore doesn't have the drrag effect problem?
unfortunately club soleil are no more and other clubs dictate nude or not at all!
> "Duncan Heenan" <duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message > news:4a447a51_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com... >> It is regrettable, but typical of them, that FINA have once again >> crumbled under commercial pressure from costume manufacturers and allowed >> all polyurethane swim suits in competition, notably the imminent World >> Championships. > SNIP >> Personally, I look forward to the day when FINA and all those who pay >> homage to them realise, as I did many years ago, that costumes are >> actually unnecessary anyway; swimming is much more pleasurable, and >> cheaper, without one at all! >> -- >> Duncan Heenan
> I was wondering where you were going with this on this NG! but well said. > Though one point my wife has been to 2 club soleil swims (but only able to > go topless!) and the point she raised that she wasn't able to swim > "properly" without her bosoms hurting? not something that I'd considered > (but should've) and wondered how naturist time fare against costumed > times. > the point is is more raised as my wife if no "Jordan" and therefore > doesn't have the drrag effect problem?
> unfortunately club soleil are no more and other clubs dictate nude or not > at all!
> Ric blondie64
She's not the only woman I've heard of who does actually need some support on the breasts to swim. However, that doesn't apply to everyone, and each to their own as far as I'm concerned. I was addressing the issue of competitive swimming mostly, and the post was actually a copy of a letter I sent to Swimming Times (the journal of the ASA) today. -- Duncan Heenan
> > "Duncan Heenan" <duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message > >news:4a447a51_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com... > >> It is regrettable, but typical of them, that FINA have once again > >> crumbled under commercial pressure from costume manufacturers and allowed > >> all polyurethane swim suits in competition, notably the imminent World > >> Championships. > > SNIP > >> Personally, I look forward to the day when FINA and all those who pay > >> homage to them realise, as I did many years ago, that costumes are > >> actually unnecessary anyway; swimming is much more pleasurable, and > >> cheaper, without one at all! > >> -- > >> Duncan Heenan
> > I was wondering where you were going with this on this NG! but well said. > > Though one point my wife has been to 2 club soleil swims (but only able to > > go topless!) and the point she raised that she wasn't able to swim > > "properly" without her bosoms hurting? not something that I'd considered > > (but should've) and wondered how naturist time fare against costumed > > times. > > the point is is more raised as my wife if no "Jordan" and therefore > > doesn't have the drrag effect problem?
> > unfortunately club soleil are no more and other clubs dictate nude or not > > at all!
> > Ric blondie64
> She's not the only woman I've heard of who does actually need some support > on the breasts to swim. However, that doesn't apply to everyone, and each to > their own as far as I'm concerned. I was addressing the issue of competitive > swimming mostly, and the post was actually a copy of a letter I sent to > Swimming Times (the journal of the ASA) today. > -- > Duncan Heenan- Hide quoted text -
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Until I read this thread it had not occurred to me that there could be any good reason for wearing a swimming costume. However when you consider it physiologically there are a number of physical actvities where containment of wobbly bits is advisable. This is very much an individual requirement as some of us are more wobbly than others so a degree of tolerance is required. As naturists we must accept that there are some who are comfortable naked and others who are, in other words "clothing optional" is a kinder approach; I just wish that the same view was taken by textiles in many more situations.
>> > "Duncan Heenan" <duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message >> >news:4a447a51_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com... >> >> It is regrettable, but typical of them, that FINA have once again >> >> crumbled under commercial pressure from costume manufacturers and >> >> allowed >> >> all polyurethane swim suits in competition, notably the imminent World >> >> Championships. >> > SNIP >> >> Personally, I look forward to the day when FINA and all those who pay >> >> homage to them realise, as I did many years ago, that costumes are >> >> actually unnecessary anyway; swimming is much more pleasurable, and >> >> cheaper, without one at all! >> >> -- >> >> Duncan Heenan
>> > I was wondering where you were going with this on this NG! but well >> > said. >> > Though one point my wife has been to 2 club soleil swims (but only able >> > to >> > go topless!) and the point she raised that she wasn't able to swim >> > "properly" without her bosoms hurting? not something that I'd >> > considered >> > (but should've) and wondered how naturist time fare against costumed >> > times. >> > the point is is more raised as my wife if no "Jordan" and therefore >> > doesn't have the drrag effect problem?
>> > unfortunately club soleil are no more and other clubs dictate nude or >> > not >> > at all!
>> > Ric blondie64
>> She's not the only woman I've heard of who does actually need some >> support >> on the breasts to swim. However, that doesn't apply to everyone, and each >> to >> their own as far as I'm concerned. I was addressing the issue of >> competitive >> swimming mostly, and the post was actually a copy of a letter I sent to >> Swimming Times (the journal of the ASA) today. >> -- >> Duncan Heenan- Hide quoted text -
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> Until I read this thread it had not occurred to me that there could be > any good reason for wearing a swimming costume. However when you > consider it physiologically there are a number of physical actvities > where containment of wobbly bits is advisable. This is very much an > individual requirement as some of us are more wobbly than others so a > degree of tolerance is required. As naturists we must accept that > there are some who are comfortable naked and others who are, in other > words "clothing optional" is a kinder approach; I just wish that the > same view was taken by textiles in many more situations.
I think in my wifes'case although she's no Sharon Davies she doesn't do casual swimming of gentle doggy paddle/breaststroke, but more vigorous lane swimming and both naturist swims have been at leisure pools where her preferred entry method (diving) wasn't possible. would like to join WNSC with her as pool is very much her prefferred envitronemnt but dress code too strict! but the trial visit I went to there were ladies diving in and enjoying fast lane swims, just no place really to just bob (which is wat I do?) and woul only join as couple and personally thinkwe'd enjoy together but don't think it will happen.
back on topic i'm sure if swim regularly muscles would be toned and probably have beneficial side effect?
also have noted Mark Fosters comments on all in one swim suits and he's not happy too!
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