Hog wrote: > I know it seems like jolly good fun, but when jump starting your > modern motorbike with all that electrical wizardry on-board DO NOT > reverse the polarity on the donor vehicle. Just wipe the terminals > and make completely sure you have them the right way round.
> Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot wire > the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly superior and > enlightened Entity. However when the nice man with the diagnostic > computer tells you the ECU on your ST4S does actually have a fried > circuit, the not at all nice bint at Ducati Leeds gets to snigger > like a fucking mong when she quotes you NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO > earth pounds.
> This has been a Public Service Announcement.
I feel your pain. I keep my red key in a VERY safe place because I am paranoid about the possibility of having to replace ECU, keys etc.
-- Tony '04 Ducati ST3, '08 DL650GT, '95 LS650, OMF#24
TMack wrote: > Hog wrote: >> I know it seems like jolly good fun, but when jump starting your >> modern motorbike with all that electrical wizardry on-board DO NOT >> reverse the polarity on the donor vehicle. Just wipe the terminals >> and make completely sure you have them the right way round.
>> Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot >> wire the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly >> superior and enlightened Entity. However when the nice man with the >> diagnostic computer tells you the ECU on your ST4S does actually >> have a fried circuit, the not at all nice bint at Ducati Leeds gets >> to snigger like a fucking mong when she quotes you NINE HUNDRED AND >> FORTY TWO earth pounds.
>> This has been a Public Service Announcement.
> I feel your pain. I keep my red key in a VERY safe place because I am > paranoid about the possibility of having to replace ECU, keys etc.
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:42:40 +0100, "Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
>I know it seems like jolly good fun, but when jump starting your modern >motorbike with all that electrical wizardry on-board DO NOT reverse the >polarity on the donor vehicle. Just wipe the terminals and make >completely sure you have them the right way round.
>Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot wire >the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly superior and >enlightened Entity. However when the nice man with the diagnostic >computer tells you the ECU on your ST4S does actually have a fried >circuit, the not at all nice bint at Ducati Leeds gets to snigger like a >fucking mong when she quotes you NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO earth >pounds.
>This has been a Public Service Announcement.
For that amount of money, even if you know fuck all about electronics, isn't it worth taking the lid off the ECU and taking a look to see if anything looks burnt? Or take it down the TV repair shop. Chances are there's some kind of polarity protection diode that caused a bit of circuit board track to vapourise, or about 30p worth of shit has gone bang.
I don't get it. If £900 quids worth of TV blew up we'd be down Curry's shouting. £900 quids worth of ECU blows up and we all take it up the arse.
<l...@bottom.of.home.page> wrote: >On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:03:07 +0100, Neil squeezed out the following:
>>I don't get it. If £900 quids worth of TV blew up we'd be down Curry's >>shouting.
>And if it had blown up because you'd connected the mains to the aerial >socket you'd get short shrift from them.
Excuse my dry sarcasm (no substitute for wit, I'll agree) Point is though, you'd take it down the repair shop before junking it on the advice of an oily mechanic or his receptionist.
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:03:07 +0100, Neil squeezed out the following:
>>>I don't get it. If £900 quids worth of TV blew up we'd be down Curry's >>>shouting.
>>And if it had blown up because you'd connected the mains to the aerial >>socket you'd get short shrift from them.
>Excuse my dry sarcasm (no substitute for wit, I'll agree) >Point is though, you'd take it down the repair shop before junking it >on the advice of an oily mechanic or his receptionist.
Sure - if you could find one. Hard enough for TVs, never mind ECUs.
>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:03:07 +0100, Neil squeezed out the following:
>>>>I don't get it. If £900 quids worth of TV blew up we'd be down Curry's >>>>shouting.
>>>And if it had blown up because you'd connected the mains to the aerial >>>socket you'd get short shrift from them.
>>Excuse my dry sarcasm (no substitute for wit, I'll agree) >>Point is though, you'd take it down the repair shop before junking it >>on the advice of an oily mechanic or his receptionist.
>Sure - if you could find one. Hard enough for TVs, never mind ECUs.
Google is your friend, my friend. "ECU repairs" shows several quitillion results.
>>>> The 01 model looks to be ST4S specific and might be a cheaper >>>> option. >>> Sadly Ultimap stopped trading, the founder went on to do something >>> else, or I would have had one already just to optimise the fuelling >>> for the Termis. >> I'm going to stop trying to find helpful solutions... it's just making >> things worse. ;-)
> I'm going to call ProTwins tomorrow, they might have some left, as long > as they provide a cash back warranty.
>>>>> The 01 model looks to be ST4S specific and might be a cheaper >>>>> option. >>>> Sadly Ultimap stopped trading, the founder went on to do something >>>> else, or I would have had one already just to optimise the fuelling >>>> for the Termis. >>> I'm going to stop trying to find helpful solutions... it's just making >>> things worse. ;-)
>> I'm going to call ProTwins tomorrow, they might have some left, as >> long as they provide a cash back warranty.
>>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:03:07 +0100, Neil squeezed out the following:
>>>>>I don't get it. If £900 quids worth of TV blew up we'd be down Curry's >>>>>shouting.
>>>>And if it had blown up because you'd connected the mains to the aerial >>>>socket you'd get short shrift from them.
>>>Excuse my dry sarcasm (no substitute for wit, I'll agree) >>>Point is though, you'd take it down the repair shop before junking it >>>on the advice of an oily mechanic or his receptionist.
>>Sure - if you could find one. Hard enough for TVs, never mind ECUs.
>Google is your friend, my friend. "ECU repairs" shows several >quitillion results.
On Jul 9, 4:42 pm, "Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
> I know it seems like jolly good fun, but when jump starting your modern > motorbike with all that electrical wizardry on-board DO NOT reverse the > polarity on the donor vehicle. Just wipe the terminals and make > completely sure you have them the right way round.
> Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot wire > the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly superior and > enlightened Entity. However when the nice man with the diagnostic > computer tells you the ECU on your ST4S does actually have a fried > circuit, the not at all nice bint at Ducati Leeds gets to snigger like a > fucking mong when she quotes you NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO earth > pounds.
but isn't that sort of money just lunch change to you?
> Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot wire > the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly superior and > enlightened Entity.
A what now? What's wrong with the ends of a spanner across the terminals, eh?
>> Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot >> wire the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly >> superior and enlightened Entity.
> A what now? What's wrong with the ends of a spanner across the > terminals, eh?
The solenoid is behind the fairing. Bit much every time I want to ride off.
darsy wrote: > On Jul 9, 4:42 pm, "Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote: >> I know it seems like jolly good fun, but when jump starting your >> modern motorbike with all that electrical wizardry on-board DO NOT >> reverse the polarity on the donor vehicle. Just wipe the terminals >> and make completely sure you have them the right way round.
>> Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot >> wire the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly >> superior and enlightened Entity. However when the nice man with the >> diagnostic computer tells you the ECU on your ST4S does actually >> have a fried circuit, the not at all nice bint at Ducati Leeds gets >> to snigger like a fucking mong when she quotes you NINE HUNDRED AND >> FORTY TWO earth pounds.
> but isn't that sort of money just lunch change to you?
> I thought you were reasonably well off.
1/10
Other than the odd vehicular weakness I'm tight as a duck's arse. Grew up in Aberdeen after all.
Neil wrote: > On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:12:55 +0100, Colin Irvine > <l...@bottom.of.home.page> wrote:
>> On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:03:07 +0100, Neil squeezed out the following:
>>> I don't get it. If £900 quids worth of TV blew up we'd be down >>> Curry's shouting.
>> And if it had blown up because you'd connected the mains to the >> aerial socket you'd get short shrift from them.
> Excuse my dry sarcasm (no substitute for wit, I'll agree) > Point is though, you'd take it down the repair shop before junking it > on the advice of an oily mechanic or his receptionist.
John Cellier is no oily mechanic!
As I posted in the thread, I have found one place in London who can try and repair Ducati ECU's.
> darsy wrote: > > On Jul 9, 4:42 pm, "Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote: > >> I know it seems like jolly good fun, but when jump starting your > >> modern motorbike with all that electrical wizardry on-board DO NOT > >> reverse the polarity on the donor vehicle. Just wipe the terminals > >> and make completely sure you have them the right way round.
> >> Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot > >> wire the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly > >> superior and enlightened Entity. However when the nice man with the > >> diagnostic computer tells you the ECU on your ST4S does actually > >> have a fried circuit, the not at all nice bint at Ducati Leeds gets > >> to snigger like a fucking mong when she quotes you NINE HUNDRED AND > >> FORTY TWO earth pounds.
> > but isn't that sort of money just lunch change to you?
> > I thought you were reasonably well off.
> 1/10
it wasn't a troll. Hell, even I spend more than that on food & drink some weeks.
> Other than the odd vehicular weakness I'm tight as a duck's arse. Grew > up in Aberdeen after all.
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 20:23:20 +0100, st...@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote:
>To be fair, Marelli ECUs are infinitely more reliable than anything made >by Bosch in recent years.
<grits teeth>
I'm always criticising my gf for using the phrase "infinitely more", when she usually means "a bit more".
Tell me, how could one component model be "infinitely more reliable" than another? -- Champ What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo neal at champ dot org dot uk
darsy wrote: > On Jul 10, 12:53 pm, "Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote: >> darsy wrote: >>> On Jul 9, 4:42 pm, "Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote: >>>> I know it seems like jolly good fun, but when jump starting your >>>> modern motorbike with all that electrical wizardry on-board DO NOT >>>> reverse the polarity on the donor vehicle. Just wipe the terminals >>>> and make completely sure you have them the right way round.
>>>> Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot >>>> wire the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly >>>> superior and enlightened Entity. However when the nice man with the >>>> diagnostic computer tells you the ECU on your ST4S does actually >>>> have a fried circuit, the not at all nice bint at Ducati Leeds gets >>>> to snigger like a fucking mong when she quotes you NINE HUNDRED AND >>>> FORTY TWO earth pounds.
>>> but isn't that sort of money just lunch change to you?
>>> I thought you were reasonably well off.
>> 1/10
> it wasn't a troll. Hell, even I spend more than that on food & drink > some weeks.
I wouldn't mind spending it on food, drink, drugs, travel, et all.
I do mind spending it on a fucking ECU the size of a match box that died after a silly mistake.
<siwil...@NODAMNSPAMN.hotmail.com> allegedly wrote: > aforementioned petrol/diesel incident. It cost us three-anna-half grand > in the end for new pump/injectors yada yada.
How fucking much? That's one mistake I'll try very hard to avoid then.
Hog wrote: > Eddie wrote: >> Hog wrote: >>> Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot >>> wire the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly >>> superior and enlightened Entity. >> A what now? What's wrong with the ends of a spanner across the >> terminals, eh?
> The solenoid is behind the fairing. Bit much every time I want to ride > off.
So, the solenoid was knackered? Wouldn't it be easier to just fix it?
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