I know it seems like jolly good fun, but when jump starting your modern motorbike with all that electrical wizardry on-board DO NOT reverse the polarity on the donor vehicle. Just wipe the terminals and make completely sure you have them the right way round.
Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot wire the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly superior and enlightened Entity. However when the nice man with the diagnostic computer tells you the ECU on your ST4S does actually have a fried circuit, the not at all nice bint at Ducati Leeds gets to snigger like a fucking mong when she quotes you NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO earth pounds.
Hog wrote: > I know it seems like jolly good fun, but when jump starting your modern > motorbike with all that electrical wizardry on-board DO NOT reverse the > polarity on the donor vehicle. Just wipe the terminals and make > completely sure you have them the right way round.
> Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot wire > the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly superior and > enlightened Entity. However when the nice man with the diagnostic > computer tells you the ECU on your ST4S does actually have a fried > circuit, the not at all nice bint at Ducati Leeds gets to snigger like a > fucking mong when she quotes you NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO earth > pounds.
> This has been a Public Service Announcement.
Insurance claim? I was surprised to learn that you can claim for eg filling a diesel car up with petrol. Not that I know anyone that's ever done that.
On 9 July, 16:42, "Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
> I know it seems like jolly good fun, but when jump starting your modern > motorbike with all that electrical wizardry on-board DO NOT reverse the > polarity on the donor vehicle. Just wipe the terminals and make > completely sure you have them the right way round.
> Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot wire > the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly superior and > enlightened Entity. However when the nice man with the diagnostic > computer tells you the ECU on your ST4S does actually have a fried > circuit, the not at all nice bint at Ducati Leeds gets to snigger like a > fucking mong when she quotes you NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO earth > pounds.
> This has been a Public Service Announcement.
For that money, I'd buy a cheap ST4S on eBay, take the ECU, and break the rest for spares.
In article <4a560ffa$0$18239$da0fe...@news.zen.co.uk>, Hog says...
> I know it seems like jolly good fun, but when jump starting your modern > motorbike with all that electrical wizardry on-board DO NOT reverse the > polarity on the donor vehicle. Just wipe the terminals and make > completely sure you have them the right way round.
> Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot wire > the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly superior and > enlightened Entity. However when the nice man with the diagnostic > computer tells you the ECU on your ST4S does actually have a fried > circuit, the not at all nice bint at Ducati Leeds gets to snigger like a > fucking mong when she quotes you NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO earth > pounds.
> This has been a Public Service Announcement.
<wince>
Oo's payin' for that one, then?
Either way, I'd be off to a breaker - there must be a Duke breaker somewhere, and the ECU isn't going to get hurt in a hedge interface, is it? I suppose you'd need the keys with it though ... and the lockset too ....
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> On 9 July, 16:42, "Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:> I know it seems like jolly good fun, but when jump starting your modern > > motorbike with all that electrical wizardry on-board DO NOT reverse the > > polarity on the donor vehicle. Just wipe the terminals and make > > completely sure you have them the right way round.
> > Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot wire > > the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly superior and > > enlightened Entity. However when the nice man with the diagnostic > > computer tells you the ECU on your ST4S does actually have a fried > > circuit, the not at all nice bint at Ducati Leeds gets to snigger like a > > fucking mong when she quotes you NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO earth > > pounds.
> > This has been a Public Service Announcement.
> For that money, I'd buy a cheap ST4S on eBay, take the ECU, and break > the rest for spares.
> Or, possibly, order one from Italy.
Looking around, there do seem to be some about.
eBay item 160347611438
Not sure if it fits the ST4S, mind. But I'd certainly investigate
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:42:40 +0100, "Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
>I know it seems like jolly good fun, but when jump starting your modern >motorbike with all that electrical wizardry on-board DO NOT reverse the >polarity on the donor vehicle. Just wipe the terminals and make >completely sure you have them the right way round.
>Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot wire >the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly superior and >enlightened Entity. However when the nice man with the diagnostic >computer tells you the ECU on your ST4S does actually have a fried >circuit, the not at all nice bint at Ducati Leeds gets to snigger like a >fucking mong when she quotes you NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO earth >pounds.
>This has been a Public Service Announcement.
Apparently the ST4-S uses the same ECU as a 999, which is the 5.9 version...
>> I know it seems like jolly good fun, but when jump starting your >> modern motorbike with all that electrical wizardry on-board DO NOT >> reverse the polarity on the donor vehicle. Just wipe the terminals >> and make completely sure you have them the right way round.
>> Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot >> wire the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly >> superior and enlightened Entity. However when the nice man with the >> diagnostic computer tells you the ECU on your ST4S does actually >> have a fried circuit, the not at all nice bint at Ducati Leeds gets >> to snigger like a fucking mong when she quotes you NINE HUNDRED AND >> FORTY TWO earth pounds.
>> This has been a Public Service Announcement.
> Apparently the ST4-S uses the same ECU as a 999, which is the 5.9 > version...
A broad range of Dukes use the IAW 59M however these do not have a separate EPROM, the unit is programmed internally to the model and has a different part number. Tried an S4R model, same engine, runs but throws up errors because some of the coolant sensors are different, and so on. The 999 would be the wrong injection mappings (different engine innit)
"Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote: > Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot wire > the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly superior and > enlightened Entity. However when the nice man with the diagnostic > computer tells you the ECU on your ST4S does actually have a fried > circuit, the not at all nice bint at Ducati Leeds gets to snigger like a > fucking mong when she quotes you NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO earth > pounds.
Fuck a duck.
Perhaps it might be worthwhile showing the ECU to someone with an electronic clue? Could be it's just blown a couple of cheap components.
>A broad range of Dukes use the IAW 59M however these do not have a >separate EPROM, the unit is programmed internally to the model and has a >different part number. Tried an S4R model, same engine, runs but throws >up errors because some of the coolant sensors are different, and so on. >The 999 would be the wrong injection mappings (different engine innit)
TOG@Toil wrote: > On 9 July, 16:50, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> On 9 July, 16:42, "Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:> I know >> it seems like jolly good fun, but when jump starting your modern >>> motorbike with all that electrical wizardry on-board DO NOT reverse >>> the polarity on the donor vehicle. Just wipe the terminals and make >>> completely sure you have them the right way round.
>>> Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot >>> wire the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly >>> superior and enlightened Entity. However when the nice man with the >>> diagnostic computer tells you the ECU on your ST4S does actually >>> have a fried circuit, the not at all nice bint at Ducati Leeds gets >>> to snigger like a fucking mong when she quotes you NINE HUNDRED AND >>> FORTY TWO earth pounds.
>>> This has been a Public Service Announcement.
>> For that money, I'd buy a cheap ST4S on eBay, take the ECU, and break >> the rest for spares.
>> Or, possibly, order one from Italy.
> Looking around, there do seem to be some about.
> eBay item 160347611438
> Not sure if it fits the ST4S, mind. But I'd certainly investigate
That's the earlier box. Larger. Under seat. EPROM. Newer items are small and by the battery, the seller is misleading, it never fitted a 4S.
Pip wrote: > In article <4a560ffa$0$18239$da0fe...@news.zen.co.uk>, Hog says...
>> I know it seems like jolly good fun, but when jump starting your >> modern motorbike with all that electrical wizardry on-board DO NOT >> reverse the polarity on the donor vehicle. Just wipe the terminals >> and make completely sure you have them the right way round.
>> Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot >> wire the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly >> superior and enlightened Entity. However when the nice man with the >> diagnostic computer tells you the ECU on your ST4S does actually >> have a fried circuit, the not at all nice bint at Ducati Leeds gets >> to snigger like a fucking mong when she quotes you NINE HUNDRED AND >> FORTY TWO earth pounds.
>> This has been a Public Service Announcement.
> <wince>
> Oo's payin' for that one, then?
Can only be me, innit. If you ask someone for assistance there is no transfer of liability for help given.
> Either way, I'd be off to a breaker - there must be a Duke breaker > somewhere, and the ECU isn't going to get hurt in a hedge interface, > is it? I suppose you'd need the keys with it though ... and the > lockset too ....
ST4S - like fucking hen's teeth running never mind dead.
www.ecuclinic.com reckons they *might* be able to sort it. £250. Similar to Fiat units apparently.
Simon Wilson wrote: > Hog wrote: >> I know it seems like jolly good fun, but when jump starting your >> modern motorbike with all that electrical wizardry on-board DO NOT >> reverse the polarity on the donor vehicle. Just wipe the terminals >> and make completely sure you have them the right way round.
>> Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot >> wire the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly >> superior and enlightened Entity. However when the nice man with the >> diagnostic computer tells you the ECU on your ST4S does actually >> have a fried circuit, the not at all nice bint at Ducati Leeds gets >> to snigger like a fucking mong when she quotes you NINE HUNDRED AND >> FORTY TWO earth pounds.
>> This has been a Public Service Announcement.
> Insurance claim? I was surprised to learn that you can claim for eg > filling a diesel car up with petrol. Not that I know anyone that's > ever done that.
> "Accidental" innit?
Hmmm I would hate to mark a 6 year clean record....
> Hmmm I would hate to mark a 6 year clean record....
Well yes you have to weigh it up against potential loss of no claims etc. Crap I know but a grand is quite a lot of wonga to most folk. Had I previously know this was possible, I would have claimed for the aforementioned petrol/diesel incident. It cost us three-anna-half grand in the end for new pump/injectors yada yada.
>> A broad range of Dukes use the IAW 59M however these do not have a >> separate EPROM, the unit is programmed internally to the model and >> has a different part number. Tried an S4R model, same engine, runs >> but throws up errors because some of the coolant sensors are >> different, and so on. The 999 would be the wrong injection mappings >> (different engine innit)
>> The 01 model looks to be ST4S specific and might be a cheaper option.
>Sadly Ultimap stopped trading, the founder went on to do something else, >or I would have had one already just to optimise the fuelling for the >Termis.
I'm going to stop trying to find helpful solutions... it's just making things worse. ;-)
>>> The 01 model looks to be ST4S specific and might be a cheaper >>> option.
>> Sadly Ultimap stopped trading, the founder went on to do something >> else, or I would have had one already just to optimise the fuelling >> for the Termis.
> I'm going to stop trying to find helpful solutions... it's just making > things worse. ;-)
I'm going to call ProTwins tomorrow, they might have some left, as long as they provide a cash back warranty.
> "Hog" <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote: >> Yes yes, having a natty little dongle on your ignition key to hot wire >> the solenoid is a wizard jape. It does make you a vastly superior and >> enlightened Entity. However when the nice man with the diagnostic >> computer tells you the ECU on your ST4S does actually have a fried >> circuit, the not at all nice bint at Ducati Leeds gets to snigger like a >> fucking mong when she quotes you NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO earth >> pounds.
> Fuck a duck.
> Perhaps it might be worthwhile showing the ECU to someone with an > electronic clue? Could be it's just blown a couple of cheap components.
There are a number of ECU repairers around. A certain person I know had to have his porca 911 fixed for a similar reason.
Hog <hogS...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote: > Similar to Fiat units apparently.
...And suddenly it gets worse...
-- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER Coo, down to just five bikes! If you don't know what you're doing, don't do it. And RTFM. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
> ... and worse: some Guzzis use Marelli ECU, 15M or newer.
To be fair, Marelli ECUs are infinitely more reliable than anything made by Bosch in recent years. -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' Alfa 156 TSpark Sportwagon Veloce Selespeed - Alfa 75 TSpark Lusso - Ducati 750SS - BMW R100RT - Toyota Prius T-Spirit
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