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Mary Fisher  
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 More options 30 Mar 2008, 12:03
Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
From: "Mary Fisher" <mary.fis...@zetnet.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:03:07 +0100
Local: Sun 30 Mar 2008 12:03
Subject: Re: Linking chicken wire

"Nick Maclaren" <n...@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message

news:fsnpuj$7an$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...

> In article <47ef6346$0$765$4c56b...@master.news.zetnet.net>,
> "Mary Fisher" <mary.fis...@zetnet.co.uk> writes:
> |>
> |> > What gauge?  Chicken wire comes from gauges that I can tear with only
> |> > gloved hands up to stuff that I need wire-cutters for.
> |>
> |> I wondered that too.

> What I would do, were I making a chicken run, would be to use fairly
> heavy 2-3" chicken wire to keep foxes, dogs and cats out, and run
> 1-2' of 1/2" chicken wire along the bottom, inside, to keep chicks in.
> That's a LOT cheaper than using weldmesh.

Last year we found that chicks could get through small holes so Spouse
fastened a 6" high length of 1/2" mesh round the bottom. Same as you.

> If badgers were a problem, it would be necessary to use weldmesh (and
> I don't mean the 1/2" stuff, either!), but it would ALSO be necessary
> to continue it down at least 1' into the soil, probably 2'.

And something underneath too.

> The design of a rat-proof run is left as an exercise for the reader :-)

<sigh> Yes ...

> |> > And are you sure that it is foxes and not badgers making the initial
> |> > entry?  Badgers like eggs, after all :-)
> |>
> |> They will eat chickens too.

> And, of all of the UK wild and domestic predators, they are the only
> one which can tear chicken wire open without difficulty.

Luckily they can't get into our garden - not that I think there are many
round here ...

> Dogs can do
> it, but my understanding is that they typically do only for the third
> leg or when starving.

Third leg?

Mary


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Nick Maclaren  
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 More options 30 Mar 2008, 12:45
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From: n...@cus.cam.ac.uk (Nick Maclaren)
Date: 30 Mar 2008 11:45:28 GMT
Local: Sun 30 Mar 2008 12:45
Subject: Re: Linking chicken wire

In article <47ef7391$0$770$4c56b...@master.news.zetnet.net>,

"Mary Fisher" <mary.fis...@zetnet.co.uk> writes:

|>
|> > Dogs can do
|> > it, but my understanding is that they typically do only for the third
|> > leg or when starving.
|>
|> Third leg?

A dog has four thoughts, one for each leg:  food, food, sex and food.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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FarmI  
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 More options 31 Mar 2008, 04:23
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From: "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:23:15 +1100
Local: Mon 31 Mar 2008 04:23
Subject: Re: Linking chicken wire

"Nick Maclaren" <n...@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> writes:
> |> "TC" <con...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> |>
> |> > I've been told that some animals can bite through chicken wire
> |>
> |> Foxes round here will get through it.  They must rake it repeatedly
> with
> |> their claws till it breaks.  they certainly have managed to break into
> my
> |> outer pen on multiple occasions.

> What gauge?  Chicken wire comes from gauges that I can tear with only
> gloved hands up to stuff that I need wire-cutters for.

It is a lighter guage stuff that was used for the outer pen - the inner
night yard is a heavier guage but the sodding foxes broke the gate on one
occasion and knocked off 11 birds in one night.  I left the bodies and slit
them open and stuffed snail bait into the carcase and the bodies
disappearred aver about 3 nights.  That cleared out a den on the creek where
I knew there were at least 2 cubs.

The light guage stuff surrounds about a quarter of an acre (also serves as
the orchard) and I have gradually moved right round it putting a heavier
guage wire right round it to about waist height - that has worked (so far)
but it took me a year or more to do what with one thing and another.

As you can imagine with a fence of that area, I have been able to keep a
good eye out on the fox activity.  They seem to spend days putting pressure
on one area.  For a few days it will be an indentation and scumbled earth
near a site they are working on, then a single broken wire will appear and
then over a few days a gradual and increasing number of broken wires till it
is obvious that they have made an incursion.  They can get through amazingly
small holes.  It's at that stage that I've repaired the holes.  I like to
let them waste a lot of time.

The other thing the bozos did when they built the fence was that they didn't
either bury about a ft of wire or lay the wire out on the ground for about a
ft on the foxward side.  I've now done that as I went around, so far so
good.

> A mistake that people may be making is to use the very lightweight
> stuff designs to keep part-grown chicks in as a fox barrier.  I can
> easily see that won't work.

> And are you sure that it is foxes and not badgers making the initial
> entry?  Badgers like eggs, after all :-)

Nope.  It was foxes.  We don't have badgers in Australia and there are no
dingos or uncontrolled pet dogs round here (they'd get shot).

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Martin Brown  
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 More options 31 Mar 2008, 09:59
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From: Martin Brown <|||newspam...@nezumi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:59:19 +0100
Local: Mon 31 Mar 2008 09:59
Subject: Re: Linking chicken wire
In message <fsl8tb$cu...@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Nick Maclaren
<n...@cus.cam.ac.uk> writes

At 2" you get stoats getting in easily and they can do a lot of damage.

Regards,
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Martin Brown

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