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  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling</id>
  <title type="text">uk.rec.cycling Google Group</title>
  <subtitle type="text">
  Discussion of UK cycling issues
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  <updated>2009-11-08T11:08:29Z</updated>
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>John Wright</name>
  <email>&quot;&quot;joh...@no spam here.com&quot;</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T11:08:29Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/5756d14c93310ac5/fe804a65ac32ef34?show_docid=fe804a65ac32ef34</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/5756d14c93310ac5/fe804a65ac32ef34?show_docid=fe804a65ac32ef34"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Cycling KSI up by 19%</title>
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  There is a sort of proposal about that would make car insurers &lt;br&gt; responsible for injuries to cyclists automatically. This does not in any &lt;br&gt; way imply fault however!
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  <author>
  <name>Happi Monday</name>
  <email>ha...@munday.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T11:04:08Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/0e702ba8811ad9b1/e3b9be0cb041c4d7?show_docid=e3b9be0cb041c4d7</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/0e702ba8811ad9b1/e3b9be0cb041c4d7?show_docid=e3b9be0cb041c4d7"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Has Guy Chapman Ever Posted as Lou Knee?</title>
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  Dear Rev. &lt;br&gt; You really need to get yourself a life. Seeing a Doctor might be a good &lt;br&gt; first step. &lt;br&gt; HTH. &lt;br&gt; Happi
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Peter Grange</name>
  <email>pe...@plgrange.demon.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T11:01:24Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/34bf6b1f7ad7b490/8a49330064aa1879?show_docid=8a49330064aa1879</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/34bf6b1f7ad7b490/8a49330064aa1879?show_docid=8a49330064aa1879"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Blue light experiment.</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:23:45 -0000, &amp;quot;Simon Mason&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; A small number of bikes using them is one thing, but if it catches on &lt;br&gt; and road users start to think &amp;quot;bike&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;ambulance&amp;quot; I&#39;m not &lt;br&gt; sure that&#39;s a Good Thing.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>mileburner</name>
  <email>milebur...@btinternet.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T10:58:56Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/5756d14c93310ac5/93a1da4cd3580d04?show_docid=93a1da4cd3580d04</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/5756d14c93310ac5/93a1da4cd3580d04?show_docid=93a1da4cd3580d04"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Cycling KSI up by 19%</title>
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  Don&#39;t ask stupid questions, of course he does. &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toucan_crossing&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>mileburner</name>
  <email>milebur...@btinternet.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T10:56:29Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/5756d14c93310ac5/46b265beb8840e3f?show_docid=46b265beb8840e3f</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/5756d14c93310ac5/46b265beb8840e3f?show_docid=46b265beb8840e3f"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Cycling KSI up by 19%</title>
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  S&#39;funny innit? You can be going hell-for-leather on a bike, close to the &lt;br&gt; speed limit and you will get some arse hounding you in a car behind for &lt;br&gt; presumably &amp;quot;holding them up&amp;quot;. But you can drive the same route at the same &lt;br&gt; speed without any hassle. &lt;br&gt; And if you slow down, for junctions, roundabouts, pedestrians, crossings,
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Happi Monday</name>
  <email>ha...@munday.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T10:56:11Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/5756d14c93310ac5/dbf6cfc6985d79d5?show_docid=dbf6cfc6985d79d5</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/5756d14c93310ac5/dbf6cfc6985d79d5?show_docid=dbf6cfc6985d79d5"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Cycling KSI up by 19%</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  &amp;quot;Both&amp;quot;.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>mileburner</name>
  <email>milebur...@btinternet.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T10:47:18Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/5756d14c93310ac5/080acd766ee721b9?show_docid=080acd766ee721b9</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/5756d14c93310ac5/080acd766ee721b9?show_docid=080acd766ee721b9"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Cycling KSI up by 19%</title>
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  That is a joke. &lt;br&gt; If you drive as-fast-as-you-can, it makes very little difference to your &lt;br&gt; average speed. Yes you might get there an incy-wincy bit quicker there is no &lt;br&gt; denying that but the overall average is largely determined by slowing down, &lt;br&gt; stopping, giving way, and waiting. All those short blasts to 40, 50 or even
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Norman Wells</name>
  <email>cm...@dibblers-pies.co.am</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T10:04:36Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/9cef07e37d313be3/50becbfbb2a330c7?show_docid=50becbfbb2a330c7</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/9cef07e37d313be3/50becbfbb2a330c7?show_docid=50becbfbb2a330c7"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Another pavement killer.</title>
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  Doug wrote: &lt;br&gt; Of course sending ordinary letters is not violence. What you seem to be &lt;br&gt; overlooking, though, is the &#39;death threats&#39; bit, which I think alters things &lt;br&gt; somewhat. &lt;br&gt; You seemed to doubt the involvement of animal rights activists in the crimes &lt;br&gt; I mentioned. The article indicates otherwise. &lt;br&gt; No?
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>mileburner</name>
  <email>milebur...@btinternet.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T10:38:08Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/5756d14c93310ac5/0fc7df9606529798?show_docid=0fc7df9606529798</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/5756d14c93310ac5/0fc7df9606529798?show_docid=0fc7df9606529798"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Cycling KSI up by 19%</title>
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  AIUI, being able to stop within the distance you see clear, does not apply &lt;br&gt; on motorways. &lt;br&gt; Instead, a half second gap is generally good form, anything more is holding &lt;br&gt; up the traffic. &lt;br&gt; Just wait &#39;til Monday, an early morning frost is due. I&#39;ll bet that it is &lt;br&gt; the M1 and the M11 southbound which have the pile ups, obviously caused by
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>mileburner</name>
  <email>milebur...@btinternet.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T10:32:36Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/5756d14c93310ac5/4ce9f187f66d71e5?show_docid=4ce9f187f66d71e5</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/5756d14c93310ac5/4ce9f187f66d71e5?show_docid=4ce9f187f66d71e5"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Cycling KSI up by 19%</title>
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  AIUI, 32 is the age where a man knows absolutely everything about the world. &lt;br&gt; Much younger and he has not had the experience, much older and he starts to &lt;br&gt; forget.
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>oldMaxim</name>
  <email>mac_har...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T10:29:58Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/9cef07e37d313be3/b29273c5e474fd71?show_docid=b29273c5e474fd71</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/9cef07e37d313be3/b29273c5e474fd71?show_docid=b29273c5e474fd71"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Another pavement killer.</title>
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  ....Doug believes any cause he sides with to be justified, whatever &lt;br&gt; the tactics used. He has a misguided belief in anarchy
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Dave S.</name>
  <email>kilo...@netscape.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T10:20:58Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/5756d14c93310ac5/0913cab24dcfa9d8?show_docid=0913cab24dcfa9d8</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/5756d14c93310ac5/0913cab24dcfa9d8?show_docid=0913cab24dcfa9d8"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Cycling KSI up by 19%</title>
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  Your postings suggest that you believe that when a cyclist is injured or &lt;br&gt; killed following collision with a car, it is always the fault of the car &lt;br&gt; driver, which I am sure is not the case. &lt;br&gt; Dave S.
  </summary>
  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Trevor A Panther</name>
  <email>ta...@psantispamblueyonder.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T10:09:34Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/d864d539dfa04b29/49bd18fcbd96ed6b?show_docid=49bd18fcbd96ed6b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/d864d539dfa04b29/49bd18fcbd96ed6b?show_docid=49bd18fcbd96ed6b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Rudge-Whitworth wire wheels</title>
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  &amp;lt;snipped. --- no &amp;lt;slashed&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; If you have a problem with urcm then I sugest that you take it up with urcm &lt;br&gt; and not try to continue your tedious, boring, diatribe on esoteric wheel &lt;br&gt; desgn on urc. &lt;br&gt; From &lt;br&gt; Trevor A Panther &lt;br&gt; In South Yorkshire, &lt;br&gt; England, United Kingdom &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.tapan.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
  </summary>
  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Norman Wells</name>
  <email>cm...@dibblers-pies.co.am</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T10:04:36Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/9cef07e37d313be3/5c15a651f6b90e41?show_docid=5c15a651f6b90e41</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/9cef07e37d313be3/5c15a651f6b90e41?show_docid=5c15a651f6b90e41"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Another pavement killer.</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Doug wrote: &lt;br&gt; Of course sending ordinary letters is not violence. What you seem to be &lt;br&gt; overlooking, though, is the &#39;death threats&#39; bit, which I think alters things &lt;br&gt; somewhat. &lt;br&gt; You seemed to doubt the involvement of animal rights activists in the crimes &lt;br&gt; I mentioned. The article indicates otherwise. &lt;br&gt; No?
  </summary>
  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>John Wright</name>
  <email>&quot;&quot;joh...@no spam here.com&quot;</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T10:05:19Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/5756d14c93310ac5/0db51b6929b66864?show_docid=0db51b6929b66864</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/5756d14c93310ac5/0db51b6929b66864?show_docid=0db51b6929b66864"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Cycling KSI up by 19%</title>
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  You&#39;re sort of asking for an anecdote here. I was once hitch hiking from &lt;br&gt; one place to another when I was a student, and got a lift from a van, &lt;br&gt; which then proceeded down the M6 at a stately 30mph. Not too long after &lt;br&gt; we got stopped by the police for moving too slowly. I think they found &lt;br&gt; other things wrong with it at the same time since they didn&#39;t allow it
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