My son's school recently conducted a survey to investigate how children get to school. One of the key findings of the survey was that only 1 per cent of children currently cycle to school but approximately 38 per cent would prefer cycling rather than their current means of transport.
Here's an extract from the letter that came home from school: "It is interesting to note that quiet a lot of the children who walk to and from school would prefer to cycle, but a significant number who travel by car would also like to cycle to and from school. This could reduce the number of cars on the road in the morning. WHile we recognise the very many health benefits of cycling, we would not wish to encourage children to cycle unless we are sure that every possible safety issue had been considered."
Very encouraging.
The school is also canvassing views on how cycling might be made safer for children. The obvious idea that springs to mind is for the school to run cycling training. I'm going to put this forward at the meeting that is being held to discuss the matter, but I need to know a few facts first.
How does the school go about organising such training? How can training be funded? Will the council cough up?
We are in east Kent - does anyone know of any local organisations that might be able to give me more information?
And finally, does anyone have any other ideas that I could put forward to the school?
In article <42n60uF1h6t4...@individual.net>, davek
(dwkenn...@btopenworld.com) wrote: > The school is also canvassing views on how cycling might be made safer > for children. The obvious idea that springs to mind is for the school to > run cycling training.
Another obvious answer is to reduce the number of cars in the vicinity of the school by, ooh, encouraging more children to cycle to school rather than be driven there.
davek wrote: > The school is also canvassing views on how cycling might be made safer > for children. The obvious idea that springs to mind is for the school to > run cycling training. I'm going to put this forward at the meeting that > is being held to discuss the matter, but I need to know a few facts first.
> How does the school go about organising such training? > How can training be funded? Will the council cough up?
> We are in east Kent - does anyone know of any local organisations that > might be able to give me more information?
> And finally, does anyone have any other ideas that I could put forward > to the school?
Have a look at the safe routes to schools web site and contact them for more ideas.
Ask for assistance from the school in terms of details of the catchment area and get out at the weekend with one or two amenable kids and a digital camera[1] and take pictures of particular 'obstacles' [2] that could be ameliorated and plot out on maps (1:10K, get them from your local council) suggested safe routes. (This could also be a classroom exercise, to get the children to think about their routes in and identify which parts are most troublesome[3])
Educate school run drivers in how to deal with children on bikes (ie give them lots of room, look carefully to see if there is somewhere they may suddenly turn right into with no signals etc. and above all, slow down and treat them as equals on the road.)
And, when it all kicks off, get lots of local paper publicity. Class shots are loved by local news rags because all the parents/grandparents and so on buy a copy to see the pic..
Hi dave, i suggest you contact the cycle training helpline run by the CTC on behalf of Cycling England cycletrain...@ctc.org.uk www.ctc.org.uk/cycletraining/
>My son's school recently conducted a survey to investigate how children >get to school. One of the key findings of the survey was that only 1 per >cent of children currently cycle to school but approximately 38 per cent >would prefer cycling rather than their current means of transport.
>Here's an extract from the letter that came home from school: >"It is interesting to note that quiet a lot of the children who walk to >and from school would prefer to cycle, but a significant number who >travel by car would also like to cycle to and from school. This could >reduce the number of cars on the road in the morning. WHile we recognise >the very many health benefits of cycling, we would not wish to encourage >children to cycle unless we are sure that every possible safety issue >had been considered."
>Very encouraging.
>The school is also canvassing views on how cycling might be made safer >for children. The obvious idea that springs to mind is for the school to >run cycling training. I'm going to put this forward at the meeting that >is being held to discuss the matter, but I need to know a few facts first.
>How does the school go about organising such training? >How can training be funded? Will the council cough up?
>We are in east Kent - does anyone know of any local organisations that >might be able to give me more information?
>And finally, does anyone have any other ideas that I could put forward >to the school?
The VITAL thing is that 'safety' is not determined by well meaning ignoramuses. Eg County Council wonks.
Helmets are irrelevant when it comes to safety but they appear to be a MUST HAVE on everybody's list except the people who know about cycle safety. :(
Training is far more cost effective - the accident that never happens is 100% survivable and the general public's knowledge of how to use the roads on a bike is very poor[1] but is fairly easy to remedy.
On this ng are people who have been there - done that - got the scars regarding: (a) _National Standard_ training (Accept no other) Look on CTC web site for information. (b) Making schools cycle friendly
One way to improve cycle safety is to reduce traffic. Some schools have a no-car zone for such a distance others stop motorised movements until after those on foot and cycle have had time to disperse at the end of the day.
If the school is conducting pupil surveys they might want to plot isochrones - the time it takes to travel to school say 10min on foot 5min on bike for starters.
[1]I'm in the process of writing up the results of more than 3000 visits to my test yourself quiz. Watch this space.
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> How does the school go about organising such training? > How can training be funded? Will the council cough up?
The LEA/DFES will cough up some dough if the school has a proper Travel Plan/Policy. This can be used for such stuff as bike sheds, training and so on.
Talk to a Parent Governor about it and get it on the Agenda of the next Governors meeting (although it may already be there if they are at the canvassing for parent views stage).
I agree they're not a lot of use on a road in traffic, but for children learning to cycle, perhaps in the playground, they are an eminently sensible solution to the problem of low-speed falls that _will_ occur. Indeed, that's almost exactly what they are developed and tested for ...
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:05:14 +0000 someone who may be davek <dwkenn...@btopenworld.com> wrote this:-
>Here's an extract from the letter that came home from school: >"It is interesting to note that quiet a lot of the children who walk to >and from school would prefer to cycle, but a significant number who >travel by car would also like to cycle to and from school. This could >reduce the number of cars on the road in the morning.
Which would improve safety for those children who walk and cycle to school.
>WHile we recognise >the very many health benefits of cycling, we would not wish to encourage >children to cycle unless we are sure that every possible safety issue >had been considered."
"We don't want to be blamed if anyone is killed or injured", is a common cry, usually by those who don't want to do something but feel saying so openly would cause them embarrassment. Do they consider every possible safety issue for those walking or being driven to school?
The biggest safety issue is safety in numbers, the more who cycle the safer they are.
>And finally, does anyone have any other ideas that I could put forward >to the school?
As well as safe routes to school there is also parking. The teachers have probably appropriated some of the playground for themselves as car parking spaces. However, suggesting that some of this is returned to the children as cycle parking and the lazy teachers come to school in some other way or park further away may not be helpful. Cycle parking does need to be prominent though, not tucked away where bikes can be vandalised.
A group of enthusiastic parents and teachers are the most important thing.
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naked_draughtsman ('newsaddr...@the-pev.co.uk') wrote: > davek wrote: >> The school is also canvassing views on how cycling might be made safer >> for children
> I think free helmets for children might come up on the list!
>> How does the school go about organising such training? >> How can training be funded? Will the council cough up?
> The LEA/DFES will cough up some dough if the school has a proper Travel > Plan/Policy. This can be used for such stuff as bike sheds, training and > so on.
> Talk to a Parent Governor about it and get it on the Agenda of the next > Governors meeting (although it may already be there if they are at the > canvassing for parent views stage).
>davek wrote: >Educate school run drivers in how to deal with children on bikes (ie >give them lots of room, look carefully to see if there is somewhere >they may suddenly turn right into with no signals etc. and above all, >slow down and treat them as equals on the road.)
Ha ......... about as much chance as snow on Christmas Day.
I recently gave up driving a school bus due to ignorant, arrogant, selfish, rude, inconsiderate, bullish, violent and downright dangerous school run parents parking in the school bus area, pavements, school pedestrian entrance, private house driveways ........... shall I go on?
Their loss not mine ........ Now they can't get drivers for love nor money ..... Ha!
davek wrote: > My son's school recently conducted a survey to investigate how children > get to school. One of the key findings of the survey was that only 1 per > cent of children currently cycle to school but approximately 38 per cent > would prefer cycling rather than their current means of transport. > <snip>
> The school is also canvassing views on how cycling might be made safer > for children. The obvious idea that springs to mind is for the school to > run cycling training. I'm going to put this forward at the meeting that > is being held to discuss the matter, but I need to know a few facts first.
> How does the school go about organising such training? > How can training be funded? Will the council cough up?
Pretty well the same results have been found here. Maybe the below will give some ideas.
I am working closely with a school where the parents (and teachers) have been asking for ways to make it safer for their children. Much of the pressure is a result of the traffic levels in the area. It is on the outskirts of a large town and the roads around the school are being used as a rat-run at the same time as parents are dropping off their kids in their 4x4s. Many parents see the rat-runners as the main danger rather than themselves.
I have arranged for cycle training for all Year 5 children to be available from this Spring. The aim is to raise those cycling in this group from 1% to 50%. It covers nearly 100 children. It is unfortunate that Year 6 will not be covered but the school naturally wishes to reap the benefits by having this year's Year 5 riding to school next year before they go off to Secondary education.
A prime aim is to reduce the school-run and ease congestion outside the gates. The school-run problem is often an emotive subject but one that most seem to understand - even those who are part of it. With this in mind parents are also being invited to join in the training so they too can help reduce the traffic. They are enthusiastic and there are tentative plans to introduce 'Cycling-Buses' once the training is underway. Teachers are also to be encourged to receive Adult Cycle Training and it is possible a large end of year ride/picnic may be held in the Summer.
Bikes are to be checked after this next half-term when Dr Bike will visit. Publicity material on the National Standards scheme will also be going out to all parents. The fun, health and safety elements are all being stressed. It is hoped a local 'celebrity' of some kind will launch the training and then award the certificates. Good publicity matters a lot to schools today and cycling is a good vehicle for this.
The training is to be built into the School Travel Plan. LAs can provide funding for things like bike sheds when a Travel Plan is approved. If your school does not have a Plan encourage them to develop one.
Funding is to be by the parents themselves in the same way as they pay for music lessons, although some local authority support is to be sought (but not expected). The cost is not seen to be a problem and it does seem parents are willing to pay for good training.
I am lucky in that I have already trained some the children at the school privately and they have been telling their friends what fun it all is. The parents off these children have been wonderful in promoting the idea of training. I am also lucky that the staff and governors are very supportive and recognise the benefits from several angles.
Best of all, the school has agreed that the training can take place during school hours so there is little conflict with out-of-school clubs and activities.
> We are in east Kent - does anyone know of any local organisations that > might be able to give me more information?
The local authority is probably not the best option - this is not a comment on East Kent, rather that LAs can get too bogged down in some rather wierd ideas about what safety is about. The National Standard Training focusses on the right issues - riding a bike rather than avoiding other traffic. I suggest you contact the CTC training helpline. A list of instructors is here:
You should be able to contact someone qualified to deliver the National Standards. Arrange for them (and you) to visit the school and meet the head and governors - and perhaps the PTA. It will be important to have a plan with clear aims - reducing traffic, promoting exercise and a healthy lifestyle, and developing independence. Don't forget that by also taking on the admin burden you are also helping teachers.
> My son's school recently conducted a survey to investigate how children > get to school. One of the key findings of the survey was that only 1 per > cent of children currently cycle to school but approximately 38 per cent > would prefer cycling rather than their current means of transport.
> Here's an extract from the letter that came home from school: > "It is interesting to note that quiet a lot of the children who walk to > and from school would prefer to cycle, but a significant number who travel > by car would also like to cycle to and from school. This could reduce the > number of cars on the road in the morning. WHile we recognise the very > many health benefits of cycling, we would not wish to encourage children > to cycle unless we are sure that every possible safety issue had been > considered."
> Very encouraging.
Roads are now too dangerous for kids to cycle safely without adult supervision. A train with an adult front and back may work but to send him out on his own is not advised.
Dave Larrington wrote: > Another obvious answer is to reduce the number of cars in the vicinity > of the school by, ooh, encouraging more children to cycle to school > rather than be driven there.
Yes, that was one of the things the head said in her letter. This is why I'm so encouraged - it seems to be more than just a theoretical exercise, they are genuinely keen to get kids cycling to school.
I think the vast majority of the school's intake lives within 1 or 2 miles so it makes a lot of sense. It really upsets me the number of parents who drive their kids in, and then find that the nearest parking space they can find to the school is almost as far away as their home... yet still they continue to drive in...
The local schools joined forces to start up a walking bus scheme earlier this year, which has been a huge success, so let's hope the cycling campaign can be equally successful.
David Martin wrote: > Have a look at the safe routes to schools web site and contact them for > more ideas.
Will do. Not heard of them before (but the website was easy enough to find).
> Ask for assistance from the school in terms of details of the catchment > area and get out at the weekend with one or two amenable kids and a > digital camera[1]
Hmm, interesting idea. Will definitely give that some thought. I'm sure I could find a few volunteers. Perhaps we could get a "cycling bus" scheme going in parallel with the walking bus.
> Educate school run drivers in how to deal with children on bikes
Getting to the parents would be the easy part. That still leaves the majority of vehicles on the road at that time of day that are not school traffic.
> And, when it all kicks off, get lots of local paper publicity.
Yes, good thinking.
Thanks for all the excellent suggestions - plenty to think about there.
> I am working closely with a school where the parents (and teachers) have been > asking for ways to make it safer for their children. Much of the > pressure is > a result of the traffic levels in the area. It is on the outskirts of a large > town and the roads around the school are being used as a rat-run at the same > time as parents are dropping off their kids in their 4x4s. > Many parents see the rat-runners as the main danger rather than themselves.
I bet once you get 50 kids out on the streets on their bikes, suddenly the roads will become a lot less attractive to the rat runners. Its the unimpeded journey that attracts them and once they have suffered the "frustration" of being held up by cyclists for a few seconds and realise it will be a regular occurrence they will find another rat run.
-- Tony
"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the right." - Lord Hailsham
Peter Fox wrote: > the accident that never happens is > 100% survivable
Nicely put. I shall use that phrase. :-)
> One way to improve cycle safety is to reduce traffic. Some schools have > a no-car zone for such a distance others stop motorised movements until > after those on foot and cycle have had time to disperse at the end of > the day.
Hmm, nice idea but not likely to happen - the school is on the high street, which is invariably clogged with delivery vans, buses and people driving to work at that time of day. Fortunately, it's so congested that motor traffic is rarely moving above walking pace...
> If the school is conducting pupil surveys they might want to plot > isochrones - the time it takes to travel to school say 10min on foot > 5min on bike for starters.
Interesting idea - wonder if it could also be used to make parents see that it often takes them /longer/ to do the journey by car once you factor in the time it takes to find a parking space and walk the remaining distance...