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Sarah  
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 More options 2 Sep 2007, 07:15
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From: Sarah <itsmacint...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 23:15:13 -0700
Local: Sun 2 Sep 2007 07:15
Subject: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire
i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear it
is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of
Reverse! i still need to tune the CVCarberator on it! Another quick
question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??

Thanks
Sarah


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Ian  
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 More options 2 Sep 2007, 10:04
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From: Ian <ian.gro...@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:04:59 -0700
Local: Sun 2 Sep 2007 10:04
Subject: Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire
On 2 Sep, 07:15, Sarah <itsmacint...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
> problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear it
> is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of
> Reverse!

How can a gearbox sound as if it's trying to knock itself out of
reverse?

> i still need to tune the CVCarberator on it! Another quick
> question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??

Could you rephrase those sentences in english, perhaps with meaning?

Ian


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DougP  
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 More options 2 Sep 2007, 10:05
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From: "DougP" <do...@btinternt.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:05:59 +0100
Local: Sun 2 Sep 2007 10:05
Subject: Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire

"Sarah" <itsmacint...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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>i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
> problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear it
> is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of
> Reverse! i still need to tune the CVCarberator on it! Another quick
> question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??

> Thanks
> Sarah

The reverse gear thing could be overdrive stuck in the engaged position.  If
so this is bad news & likely has caused serious damage to the overdrive.
Would not recommend buying if this is the case.  If it doesn't have
overdrive then obviously this isn't hte cause.

What on earth is CVCarberator????? & no idea what you mean by tuning ration.


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Dave Plowman (News)  
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 More options 2 Sep 2007, 10:19
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From: "Dave Plowman (News)" <d...@davenoise.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:19:14 +0100
Local: Sun 2 Sep 2007 10:19
Subject: Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire
In article <1188713713.707910.200...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
   Sarah <itsmacint...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
> problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear it
> is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of
> Reverse!

Very expensive fix. Means replacing the gearbox. Allow 500-1000 quid for
this job if a garage has to do it.

> i still need to tune the CVCarberator on it!

Another fault? Get pro advice. If it is just a simple adjustment why
wasn't this done before?

> Another quick question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to
> 7??

I ain't got a clue what you're talking about.

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:Jerry:  
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 More options 2 Sep 2007, 10:23
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Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:23:48 +0100
Local: Sun 2 Sep 2007 10:23
Subject: Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire

"Sarah" <itsmacint...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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>i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
> problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear
> it
> is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of

Any noise from the gearbox when in first gear, if so it's the usual
problem of worn out layshaft bearings - a reconditioned gearbox is the
only cure.

> Reverse! i still need to tune the CVCarberator on it! Another quick
> question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??

Sorry but that's a meaningless sentence, even if it's reconstructed
around possible typo's!

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Ian  
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 More options 2 Sep 2007, 15:15
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From: Ian <ian.gro...@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 07:15:16 -0700
Local: Sun 2 Sep 2007 15:15
Subject: Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire
On 2 Sep, 10:19, "Dave Plowman (News)" <d...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <1188713713.707910.200...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>    Sarah <itsmacint...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
> > problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear it
> > is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of
> > Reverse!

> Very expensive fix. Means replacing the gearbox. Allow 500-1000 quid for
> this job if a garage has to do it.

Maybe not that bad. A recon box is £215 from Canley Classics, and a
halfway competent garage shouldn't take more than half a day to fit
it. Worth doing the clutch at the same time though.

OK, 500 quid-ish.

Don't buy the car!

Ian


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Jim Warren  
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 More options 2 Sep 2007, 19:58
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From: Jim Warren <jimwar...@OMITblueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:58:50 GMT
Local: Sun 2 Sep 2007 19:58
Subject: Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire
Ian wrote:
> On 2 Sep, 07:15, Sarah <itsmacint...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
>> problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear it
>> is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of
>> Reverse!

> How can a gearbox sound as if it's trying to knock itself out of
> reverse?

It could be an idler with a chipped or broken tooth.  If so, the bits
will be in the gearbox somewhere and could do a lot of damage.

Jim


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DougP  
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 More options 2 Sep 2007, 19:52
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From: "DougP" <do...@btinternt.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:52:04 +0100
Local: Sun 2 Sep 2007 19:52
Subject: Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire

"Sarah" <itsmacint...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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>i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
> problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear it
> is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of
> Reverse! i still need to tune the CVCarberator on it! Another quick
> question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??

> Thanks
> Sarah

Another priceless post by Sarah.....

http://cardealerforums.com/alt-autos-toyota/t62770-my-starter-doesnt-...


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Ian  
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 More options 4 Sep 2007, 06:59
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From: Ian <ian.gro...@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 22:59:01 -0700
Local: Tues 4 Sep 2007 06:59
Subject: Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire
On 2 Sep, 19:58, Jim Warren <jimwar...@OMITblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> Ian wrote:
> > On 2 Sep, 07:15, Sarah <itsmacint...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
> >> problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear it
> >> is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of
> >> Reverse!

> > How can a gearbox sound as if it's trying to knock itself out of
> > reverse?

> It could be an idler with a chipped or broken tooth.  If so, the bits
> will be in the gearbox somewhere and could do a lot of damage.

OK, that would make a noise. I just can't imagine what a gearbox
"trying to knock itself out of reverse" sounds like.

Ian


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Jim Warren  
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 More options 4 Sep 2007, 07:20
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From: Jim Warren <jimwar...@OMITblueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 06:20:37 GMT
Local: Tues 4 Sep 2007 07:20
Subject: Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire

Ian wrote:

> I just can't imagine what a gearbox
> "trying to knock itself out of reverse" sounds like.

> Ian

Given the OP's clarity of expression (tuning ratio ???), I couldn't be
sure either, but assumed it meant some sort of regular knocking.

It couldn't be a shredded UJ because that would make a noise in forward
gears too.  So there are only really two sources of noise in reverse
only.  Someone else mentioned an overdrive stuck on so that reverse
fights against the unidirectional clutch. Which just left a problem with
the reverse idler, so I threw that into the conversation.

I think the consensus is clear - either don't buy this car, or budget
for a replacement gearbox if you do.

Jim


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Peter Hill  
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 More options 5 Sep 2007, 00:14
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From: Peter Hill <peter.usen...@nospam.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:14:19 +0100
Local: Wed 5 Sep 2007 00:14
Subject: Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire
On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 23:15:13 -0700, Sarah <itsmacint...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
>problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear it
>is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of
>Reverse!
>i still need to tune the CVCarberator on it!

= Zenith Stromberg.
Better be ready to replace all rubber bits.
http://www.triumphspitfire.com/carbchoices.html

>Another quick
>question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??

?? to you too. Tappet clearance in thou?
http://www.triumphspitfire.com/Tuning.html

>Thanks
>Sarah

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Geoff Mackenzie  
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 More options 5 Sep 2007, 10:17
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From: "Geoff Mackenzie" <g...@chapterfive.org.uk>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:17:52 +0100
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Subject: Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire

> >Another quick
> >question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??

20 to 8.  According to my watch.

Geoff MacK


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Pikey Pete  
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 More options 5 Sep 2007, 10:48
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From: "Pikey Pete" <pete.mur...@blueNOPRESSEDMEATyonder.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:48:08 +0100
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Subject: Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire
Accompanied by the sound of a chisel on slate Geoff
Mackenzie,<g...@chapterfive.org.uk> managed to produce the following
words of wisdom

>>> Another quick
>>> question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??

> 20 to 8.  According to my watch.

6 to 1 joint favourite, according to John McCrirrick.

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 More options 5 Sep 2007, 10:19
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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:19:48 +0100
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Subject: Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire

"Peter Hill" <peter.usen...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 23:15:13 -0700, Sarah <itsmacint...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:

<snip>

>>i still need to tune the CVCarberator on it!
> = Zenith Stromberg.
> Better be ready to replace all rubber bits.
> http://www.triumphspitfire.com/carbchoices.html

If so, best replace the carb with the correct one, taking the year
from the subject line surely there should be twin SU's?

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 More options 5 Sep 2007, 11:51
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Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:51:21 +1000
Local: Wed 5 Sep 2007 11:51
Subject: Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire

Geoff Mackenzie wrote:
>>>Another quick
>>>question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??

> 20 to 8.  According to my watch.

> Geoff MacK

Well, write that down so you won't have to ask again.

r


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 More options 5 Sep 2007, 19:48
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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:48:19 +0100
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Subject: Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire

"Pikey Pete" <pete.mur...@blueNOPRESSEDMEATyonder.co.uk> wrote in message

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> Accompanied by the sound of a chisel on slate Geoff
> Mackenzie,<g...@chapterfive.org.uk> managed to produce the following
> words of wisdom
>>>> Another quick
>>>> question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??

>> 20 to 8.  According to my watch.

> 6 to 1 joint favourite, according to John McCrirrick.

One of Damon Runyon's characters reckoned that life in general was 6 to 5
against,  so if given an even chance he always took it.

Ron Robinson


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