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  <title type="text">uk.railway Google Group</title>
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  Discussion about railways in the UK
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  <updated>2009-11-28T01:41:56Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Tim Roll-Pickering</name>
  <email>t.c.roll-picker...@qmul.ac.uk</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-28T01:41:56Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/c05295a9ecde5a9f/81e290e88e3fb77d?show_docid=81e290e88e3fb77d</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: I&#39;ve paid ukp73 to sit on the floor</title>
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  What guarantee is there that the later train will actually be running or &lt;br&gt; that it will have empty seats or that it will have even the timetable &lt;br&gt; advertised number of carriages or for that matter will have the buffet?
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  <author>
  <name>Charles Ellson</name>
  <email>char...@ellson.demon.co.uk</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-28T01:40:50Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/2ec7205a603d4394/e63e9bcb16e4ccfe?show_docid=e63e9bcb16e4ccfe</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/2ec7205a603d4394/e63e9bcb16e4ccfe?show_docid=e63e9bcb16e4ccfe"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Workington North</title>
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  On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:46:05 +0000, David Hansen &lt;br&gt; It also reduces the possibility of the emergency services risking &lt;br&gt; their own lives to rescue the idiots.
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  <author>
  <name>Theo Markettos</name>
  <email>theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-28T01:32:04Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/256d3ef43e62ef52/3f8b583f8a9994c8?show_docid=3f8b583f8a9994c8</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/256d3ef43e62ef52/3f8b583f8a9994c8?show_docid=3f8b583f8a9994c8"/>
  <title type="text">BBC: Euro train booking system shelved</title>
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  Railteam, the alliance of European high-speed rail operators, has shelved &lt;br&gt; plans for a Europe-wide common booking system because of increasing costs. &lt;br&gt; The system would have allowed customers to book tickets for Europe-wide rail &lt;br&gt; journeys in a single transaction. &lt;br&gt; The platform was due to be unveiled this year, but has been scrapped for the
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  <author>
  <name>D7666</name>
  <email>d7...@hotmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-28T00:11:35Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/c05295a9ecde5a9f/f6f8a4c704e5de71?show_docid=f6f8a4c704e5de71"/>
  <title type="text">Re: I&#39;ve paid ukp73 to sit on the floor</title>
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  If you have to resort to abuse you have already lost the argument.
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  <author>
  <name>Richard Fairhurst</name>
  <email>rich...@systemed.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-28T00:09:40Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: I&#39;ve paid ukp73 to sit on the floor</title>
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  On Nov 27, 8:11 pm, &amp;quot;Paul Stevenson&amp;quot; &amp;lt;paul.pdste...@phonecoop.coop&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; My goodness me. &lt;br&gt; Historically I never agree with Roland on _anything_. (Which is kind &lt;br&gt; of ironic given that he designed the computer to which I owe my &lt;br&gt; career, but hey.) &lt;br&gt; But here: Roland says that he has paid £73 to sit on the floor. The
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  <author>
  <name>EE507</name>
  <email>ee...@yahoo.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-28T00:02:32Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/50971d09b4264f10/a36d889f0b8a054f?show_docid=a36d889f0b8a054f"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Slightly O/T - Hitachi Bullet Train to Challenge France&#39;s TGV in Own Backyard (sic)</title>
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  How about comparing commuter services along the Trent Valley and into &lt;br&gt; Crewe with the off-peak south of Northampton? An equally meaningless &lt;br&gt; comparison... &lt;br&gt; Now comparing off-peak north of Northampton and off-peak south thereof &lt;br&gt; *would* make sense.
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  <author>
  <name>Paul Harley</name>
  <email>pwhar...@geekmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-27T23:51:59Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/c05295a9ecde5a9f/f1d7da7d61e2b696?show_docid=f1d7da7d61e2b696</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/c05295a9ecde5a9f/f1d7da7d61e2b696?show_docid=f1d7da7d61e2b696"/>
  <title type="text">Re: I&#39;ve paid ukp73 to sit on the floor</title>
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  On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:45:23, &amp;quot;David Thornhill&amp;quot; &amp;lt;s...@ntlworld.com&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; Most will have onward transport to catch when they alight; either a &lt;br&gt; connecting train, bus or a partner in a car. &lt;br&gt; If they switch to the next service, they could have a long wait at the &lt;br&gt; interchange, if they miss their onward service and the frequency is
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  <author>
  <name>Andy</name>
  <email>andyp...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-27T23:48:45Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/bf3f0c50b9137a9a/f0f81855e0154b5a?show_docid=f0f81855e0154b5a</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/bf3f0c50b9137a9a/f0f81855e0154b5a?show_docid=f0f81855e0154b5a"/>
  <title type="text">Re: St Pancras toilets</title>
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  As the 19.15 is the first train to destinations north of Kettering on &lt;br&gt; the mainline where off-peak tickets are available (after the 16.25), I &lt;br&gt; can well imagine it still seems like rush hour. If you go by ticket &lt;br&gt; validity, then rush hour appears to last for two and a half hours, but &lt;br&gt; I can well imagine that the 19.15 will be much more crowded than the
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  <author>
  <name>D7666</name>
  <email>d7...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-27T23:46:53Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: I&#39;ve paid ukp73 to sit on the floor</title>
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  They obviously think at least one is.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>D7666</name>
  <email>d7...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-27T23:44:54Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/35f461c56725b897/48de9049f04f8318?show_docid=48de9049f04f8318</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/35f461c56725b897/48de9049f04f8318?show_docid=48de9049f04f8318"/>
  <title type="text">Re: How could they do that to Nuneaton ?</title>
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  The most sympatheitc thing that could be done to Nuneaton uses TNT.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>simon</name>
  <email>nos...@nospam.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-27T23:38:56Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/35f461c56725b897/0ecfa52e583b73e3?show_docid=0ecfa52e583b73e3</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/35f461c56725b897/0ecfa52e583b73e3?show_docid=0ecfa52e583b73e3"/>
  <title type="text">How could they do that to Nuneaton ?</title>
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  Visited the station for the first time since bit &#39;gobbed on&#39;. Theres this &lt;br&gt; classic brick built mess with new doors and things and they add some modern &lt;br&gt; meccano to it ! Couldnt something a bit more sympathetic have been tacked &lt;br&gt; on - old corregated sheeting would have looked more in keeping. Also there
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Neil Williams</name>
  <email>wensleyd...@pacersplace.org.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-27T23:37:50Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/50971d09b4264f10/4e0c3db500f9087a?show_docid=4e0c3db500f9087a"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Slightly O/T - Hitachi Bullet Train to Challenge France&#39;s TGV in Own Backyard (sic)</title>
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  On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:22:34 -0800 (PST), EE507 &amp;lt;ee...@yahoo.co.uk&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; No, it&#39;s an observation of which seats are taken first, which goes &lt;br&gt; roughly thus on most middle-distance LM services full of commuters &lt;br&gt; travelling alone:- &lt;br&gt; 1. One seat in an unoccupied priority airline row. &lt;br&gt; 2. One seat in an unoccupied non-priority airline row.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>The Doctor</name>
  <email>monst.oorz...@ntlworld.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-27T23:36:29Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/7ef3b12ab327af27/b6465a63e88d9641?show_docid=b6465a63e88d9641</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/7ef3b12ab327af27/b6465a63e88d9641?show_docid=b6465a63e88d9641"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Pass The Sick Bag</title>
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  Works ok for me. I have OpenSUSE 11.2 with the additions from the Packman &lt;br&gt; repo and all seems to be working in Firefox.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Andy</name>
  <email>andyp...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-27T23:27:28Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/dd35bdb4d80e8c16/865fa51b01306c74?show_docid=865fa51b01306c74</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/dd35bdb4d80e8c16/865fa51b01306c74?show_docid=865fa51b01306c74"/>
  <title type="text">Re: LM observation from today</title>
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  On Nov 27, 10:36 pm, wensleyd...@pacersplace.org.uk (Neil Williams) &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; True, but they did manage better before they loaned the 350/1s to &lt;br&gt; Southern. It will be interesting to see if allocations improve once &lt;br&gt; all these units return and the new timetable starts.
  </summary>
  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Neil Williams</name>
  <email>wensleyd...@pacersplace.org.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-27T23:23:48Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/50971d09b4264f10/4d7a8b0234f8387d?show_docid=4d7a8b0234f8387d</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.railway/browse_thread/thread/50971d09b4264f10/4d7a8b0234f8387d?show_docid=4d7a8b0234f8387d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Slightly O/T - Hitachi Bullet Train to Challenge France&#39;s TGV in Own Backyard (sic)</title>
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  On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:07:21 +0000, Charlie Hulme &lt;br&gt; The demographic of the passengers going beyond Northampton, as noted &lt;br&gt; above. (Notably, a lot of these passengers seem to be going to/from &lt;br&gt; Atherstone - to think it was under threat of closure...) &lt;br&gt; Having used it both north and south of Northampton, this seems quite
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