> "Mark Morton" <m...@bustingmychops.com> wrote in message > news:7lre7vF3f7fg5U1@mid.individual.net... >> The NRES site is now showing a section called 'Stations Made Easy'
> As a former Station/Traffic Supervisor of Clapham Junction I'm impressed > with that.
Wow. Except I'm afraid I call it a creditable attempt (based on 2 stations I know well). Castle Cary - the footbridge is also a public right of way. As such it crosses all 3 tracks, not 2 as shown. The footpath it serves runs through the field at the top of the diagram (leading directly to Castle Cary). It exits through a kissing gate at the foot of the bridge steps at the bottom of the diagram.
Maidenhead; this is much more picky. There is a path/ramp from the down side car park onto platform 1 which might appear to be useful to disabled passengers. This is no doubt true for the (very) occasional trains from platform 1 but there is no way off P1 other than the ramp which is useable by disabled passengers - the only other access is stairs. To get to the station from that car park you actually go along Shoppenhangers (the adjacent road) and then into the subway on the level to access the lifts to the platforms; in fact I reckon most able bodied would go via the road.
Pat O'Neill wrote: > As a former Station/Traffic Supervisor of Clapham Junction I'm > impressed with that.
Surprised they've incorporated so much info - 'mouse over' an icon for a staircase, a help point or sweets machine etc, and its individual photo appears.. Stairs captions even include the number of steps...
<edward.harris...@remove.btinternet.com> wrote: > Wow. Except I'm afraid I call it a creditable attempt (based on 2 stations > I know well).....
Had a quick look at Swindon, which seems to imply seats in the subway (there are none, though there are some in the booking office). There's no image of the booking office (it's labelled "staff area"). I find the text rather patronising, too ("There are seats available for people to rest.")
But yes, useful generally (especially for large stations) when you're going somewhere unfamiliar.
<m...@bustingmychops.com> wrote: >The NRES site is now showing a section called 'Stations Made Easy'
I love the way it claims that wheelchair users can use the entrance on the old Aughton Park building (which has now been replaced with one they probably can - but is not the one shown!) unaided - it had steps!
Neil
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<phildea...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >Had a quick look at Swindon, which seems to imply seats in the subway >(there are none, though there are some in the booking office). >There's no image of the booking office (it's labelled "staff area"). >I find the text rather patronising, too ("There are seats available >for people to rest.")
Given the way a lot of it is worded, I suspect it came about by publishing some kind of research done for DDA/RVAR purposes in a kind-of "if we've got it we might as well publish it" way. A nice public service ethic, really.
Neil
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> Given the way a lot of it is worded, I suspect it came about by > publishing some kind of research done for DDA/RVAR purposes in a > kind-of "if we've got it we might as well publish it" way. A nice > public service ethic, really.
How much of the mouse-over stuff is accessible to people who rely on keyboard navigation or non-visual display, though?
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:00:46 +0000, Mark Morton > <m...@bustingmychops.com> wrote:
>>The NRES site is now showing a section called 'Stations Made Easy'
> I love the way it claims that wheelchair users can use the entrance on > the old Aughton Park building (which has now been replaced with one > they probably can - but is not the one shown!) unaided - it had steps!
Impressive stuff. It's surprising, though, that there is no indication of which direction is which - i.e. which platform might one reasonably expect to need in order to catch a train to [wherever]. I appreciate that is not always possible.
> Surprised they've incorporated so much info - 'mouse over' an icon for a > staircase, a help point or sweets machine etc, and its individual photo > appears.. Stairs captions even include the number of steps...
At King's Cross, the 'mouse over' indicates that platform 2 serves Leeds and Aberdeen, platform 3 Foxton, platform 4 Newcastle, platform 5 Leeds, platform 6 Cambridge and Leeds, platform 8 Newcastle, 9 Cambridge, 10 Kings Lynn and 11 Foxton. But only 'if two platform station'. Not sure about 1 & 7...
The four travel options to London Kings Cross Station are also a little odd.
...and, with reference to a recent thread, it's also missing Stanlow & Thornton. Perhaps the official photographer was "dissuaded" from taking shots at these two stations - at LYC by a Royal Marine with a gun and at SNT by Shell security?
British Steel Redcar (RBS) is also omitted, but IBM (IBM) is shown!
Interestingly this includes the "Station Approach" cul-de-sac that's basically part of a private development now - as I understand it the passenger interface (it wasn't much more!) was moved to the west end of the platforms many years ago.
Jonathan Morton <jonathan.mortonbutignorethisp...@btinternet.com> wrote: > Impressive stuff. It's surprising, though, that there is no indication of > which direction is which - i.e. which platform might one reasonably expect > to need in order to catch a train to [wherever]. I appreciate that is not > always possible.
> Fantastic! Though I think it would have been less of a novelty seeing > it before I got there!
I find it kind of charming that they were thoughtful enough to put in a payphone and a bicycle rack!
-Miles
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:30:48 -0000, "Jonathan Morton"
<jonathan.mortonbutignorethisp...@btinternet.com> wrote: >Impressive stuff. It's surprising, though, that there is no indication of >which direction is which - i.e. which platform might one reasonably expect >to need in order to catch a train to [wherever].
There is at Aughton Park - hover the mouse over the platform.
Neil
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<spuorgelg...@gowanhill.com> wrote: >How much of the mouse-over stuff is accessible to people who rely on >keyboard navigation or non-visual display, though?
Good point. Maybe it's worth suggesting an accessible version is done?
Neil
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>> Fantastic! Though I think it would have been less of a novelty seeing >> it before I got there!
>I find it kind of charming that they were thoughtful enough to put in a >payphone and a bicycle rack!
Indeed - though I think the payphone is a good idea - I'm not sure there is any mobile signal there, and if you're stuck there overnight you could easily be dead from hypothermia by the morning. (There is the station house if it was occupied at the time, where I guess you could ask for assistance in an emergency, but if not there is genuinely nothing anywhere near it).
As for the bike rack, that surprised me...
Neil
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Mark Morton wrote: > The NRES site is now showing a section called 'Stations Made Easy'
Good idea - really useful for stations like Belper with more than one entrance and approach details that were impossible to elicit from the previous maps.
But if making the investment in the data collection, why undermine the value by using such crude drawing software? Schematics are all very well, but this is a site for the general public. The visitor to York might have some difficulty relating a straight-platform map to a curved-platform reality.
And the information provided is so scant. For Matlock, it shows the rail station and the bus station, but there is no indication of how you enter the bus station. So the plan is useless for preparing a nervous traveler, or talking someone through over the phone if they are lost.
The pictures are useful - but what lazy software for the captions. For Matlock "Destinations served by this platform (if two platform station): Single Platform" . Genius.
And there's no scale. I'm not even sure that the plans are even roughly to scale. If I am trying to work out whether an elderly relative will manage the transit from train to bus, that would be rather important information.
Bruce wrote: > On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:00:42 +0000, Paul Harley > <pwhar...@geekmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:47:15, "John Salmon" <ihmfd...@jwwpng.wrg.tin> >> wrote: >>> At King's Cross, the 'mouse over' indicates that platform 2 serves Leeds and >>> Aberdeen, platform 3 Foxton, platform 4 Newcastle, platform 5 Leeds, >>> platform 6 Cambridge and Leeds, platform 8 Newcastle, 9 Cambridge, 10 Kings >>> Lynn and 11 Foxton. But only 'if two platform station'. Not sure about 1 & >>> 7... >> ....but we all know what destination platform nine and three-quarters >> serves! <g>
There's one of those here as well, also a car park (with cars in it), even though there's no public road access. Presumably the 'old watch tower' is the former signalbox.
Are they correct about the destinations served from each platform? I thought there was right hand running through the loops on the West Highland Line served by island platforms, In any case, is there actually a crossing loop there, or is the former crossing loop only used as a recesws siding for engineering trains?
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