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Re: Ask UMRA .. has any character been played by four different actors?

gum...@gmail.com (Gumrat) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 13:59:04 UT

<snip more interesting stuff>
Was Judy Bennett playing Shula at the same time she played Kenton, do
you know?

Re: Umratic recommendations

gum...@gmail.com (Gumrat) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 13:58:04 UT

Ditto. In my first year at secondary school, Miss Castle told me to mime
the Christmas Carols. I've not looked forward since..

Re: Umratic recommendations

dontusethisaddr...@springequinox.co.uk (Marjorie) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 12:53:13 UT

Well, I'm not surprised you were scared - using lions is a bit extreme!
He sang a
But seriously, that's no way to teach music. It might act as a
rudimentary selection procedure for, say, learning an instrument (well,
it would in the days when selection was not done on financial criteria)
but what on earth was it supposed to achieve?

Re: Ask UMRA .. has any character been played by four different actors?

notar...@address.co.uk (Django Cat) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 12:44:39 UT

Hang about? I remember Shula not-very-convincingly impersonating a 13
year-old boy when Adam was a lad (no wonder he turned out to be
permanently in a foul mood) but she was also her own twin?
DC

Re: something for the umratic stocking

g6...@soft255.demon.co.uk (J. P. Gilliver (John)) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 12:02:20 UT

Thanks for this - I just hope he hasn't got it already!
In message <r1Su76B+73GLF...@nospam.demon .co.uk>, Kate Brown

Re: Umratic recommendations

elv...@nospam.demon.co.uk (Kate Brown) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 12:07:47 UT

Who's forbidding you now? Isn't there an amateur choir that would take
you without audition? If you like singing and can keep a tune, and
especially if you can more or less read music, I'd have thought lots of
choirs would be happy to have you. A quick google reveals a number of
what looks like 'walk up and sing' events near Barrow. Not all of them

Re: Advent

3-nos...@temporary-address.org.uk (Nick) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 12:08:36 UT

We've got a Noah's ark like that (yes I know, it's conflating two
different bible stories). You have an animal behind each of
what I can't avoid thinking of a gun-ports, and collect them on the
deck, pairing them up as they appear. Great fun, but needs to start on
the same day each year.
I've never seen an AC that doesn't finish on 24 or 25th (with a bigger

Re: Umratic recommendations

g6...@soft255.demon.co.uk (J. P. Gilliver (John)) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 11:53:05 UT

In message <1260098230.2680.8.ca...@teesd ale.golgonooza.co.uk>, Rosalind
[]
I agree, though gently (dear).
We were called in for some sort of singing test too (I can't remember if
it was Bimbo or Fido). I failed it _deliberately_.
Both seem rather one-off (not the right word but umbrella) - I wonder

Re: Umratic recommendations

steamp...@golgonooza.co.uk (Rosalind Mitchell) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 11:17:10 UT

I was, in primary school, and it didn't do me much good...
Mind you, I suspect I wasn't taught properly. Mr Pritchard, who ran and
selected for the choir, lined everybody up against a wall then walked
along the lione standing in front of each child in turn. He sang a
single note and you were supposed to sing it back. Nervous Rosie

Re: Ask UMRA .. has any character been played by four different actors?

steve.hag...@virgin.net (Steve Hague) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 10:30:52 UT

(Swerve) Has anyotherat seen Show of Hands do "Widdecombe Fair"? Spine-
tingling stuff.
Steve Hague

Re: Big Solier Wed 2/12

nos...@blanchflower.me.uk (Serena Blanchflower) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 10:25:19 UT

* Jane Vernon wrote, On 03/12/2009 09:10:
And a <languid wave> from me too. It's been brilliantly done.

Re: Anyone like this chap been on the Archers ?

nos...@blanchflower.me.uk (Serena Blanchflower) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 10:21:40 UT

* chris mcmillan wrote, On 05/12/2009 21:12:
Like you Chris, I've heard of them. I believe they are particularly
useful for people who have allergies, as poodle coats are far less
likely to cause problems than other dogs.

Re: Spoilerish 29/11

nos...@blanchflower.me.uk (Serena Blanchflower) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 10:20:33 UT

* a l l y wrote, On 02/12/2009 17:32:
It's lovely to hear a story of such good care, and such caring carers.
I know a lot of people who depend on carers, to a greater or
lesser degree, and it's all too rare to get such good care, especially
from agency carers (which I assume these are, as they had to fight to

Re: Spoilerish 29/11

nos...@blanchflower.me.uk (Serena Blanchflower) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 10:17:13 UT

Yes, that is a worry. I used to have carers coming in, to cook and
shop for me, until I found other solutions, as they were causing far
more problems than they solved. Amongst other problems, I had to
really fight to be allowed to have my lunch at the outrageously late
hour of midday. On one occasion the carer turned up at 9:30am to cook

Re: Minarets

nos...@blanchflower.me.uk (Serena Blanchflower) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 10:01:06 UT

* Jo Lonergan wrote, On 02/12/2009 08:08:
I think I've heard of it in some parts of the country. There's been a
mosque in Wickham, a village not far from me, for twenty plus years,
housed in a bungalow, in a residential area and without either
minarets or muezzin (I doubt there are any faithful living within

something for the umratic stocking

elv...@nospam.demon.co.uk (Kate Brown) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 09:53:02 UT

Review pinched from another place, book sounds perfect!
(cutandpaste URL)
<[link]
0304129.html>
The Washington Post
December 3, 2009
Book World
Mad about English: The age-old language struggle
Carolyn See
� 'Lexicographer's Dilemma'

Re: Ask UMRA .. has any character been played by four different actors?

g6...@soft255.demon.co.uk (J. P. Gilliver (John)) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 09:39:40 UT

In message <7nusseF3ng2f...@mid.individua l.net>, Al Menzies
...
(hold that last note ...)
... old uncle Tom Cobley and all, old uncle Tom Cobley and all.

Re: Umratic recommendations

dontusethisaddr...@springequinox.co.uk (Marjorie) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 09:01:43 UT

I've just listened to yesterday's repeat, so thanks for the tip-off.
I can read music and I had the score in front of me, but it was still
difficult to know what section they were talking about, because the
extracts they played kept being phased in and out, and I couldn't find
where they were when they suddenly picked on a phrase and turned up the

Re: Umratic recommendations

dontusethisaddr...@springequinox.co.uk (Marjorie) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 08:56:36 UT

At the risk of drifting off into Reminiscence Therapy again...
I was at a pretty down-market primary school and we were all taught to
read music, at least to the extent of reading a melody line on the
treble stave. In our 11-plus year, we had a very good teacher, and she
had us singing simple songs and hymns, reading from the staff. We also

Re: Radio Times Spoilers - Week Beginning 6th December

matron.nunc...@tesco.net (Siderius Nuncius) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 07:52:27 UT

"BobE" <bobemble...@googlemail.com> wrote On 5 Dec, 16:41,
Don't Knock it.

Re: Anyone like this chap been on the Archers ?

fa...@panix.com (Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 06:15:27 UT

Evereyone just gets out of the way- mostly cheerfully. I've never
seen anyone just stand their ground- as much as I feel like the buggy
is taking too much room, an impasse on the sidewalk (pavement) would
not help matters.
73, doug

Re: Lampposts in Ambridge

n...@ximenes.org.uk (Colin Blackburn) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 06:13:28 UT

Many thanks for that, Martin.
Colin

Re: Umratic recommendations

joloner...@hotmail.com (Jo Lonergan) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 01:49:21 UT

I think everyone should learn to read music at school. Even after about 30 years
in choirs I can't sight sing properly.

Re: Big Solier Wed 2/12

linda...@ntlworld.com (Linda Fox) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 00:43:31 UT

On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:40:16 +0000, steveski <steves...@invalid.com>
wrote:
And the buzzin' of the bees and the cigarette trees
lff

Re: Minarets

steves...@invalid.com (steveski) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 00:06:58 UT

You are probably right but I am now Confused of Tunbridge Wells . . . (as
well as a bit 'tired and emotional', it being Saturday night an' all :-) ).

Re: Advent

gum...@gmail.com (Gumrat) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:54:10 UT

Oh, I remember the marble counters, in Surbiton! But I don't remember
Bourbons from there at the time, just Brie! And MacFisheries for fresh fish!
I've just googled and I see there's a Waitrose in Claremont Road! My,
how things have changed!

Re: Ask UMRA .. has any character been played by four different actors?

carolet_cet...@btinternet.com (carolet) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:59:45 UT

Kenton Archer has been played by Judy Bennett, Simon Gipps-Kent, Graeme Kirk
and Richard Attlee.
Hazel Woolley has been played by Hilary Armstrong, Jan Cox, Hilary Newcombe
and Annette Badland.
If you are also interested in characters that have been played by more than
four actors, then:
John Tregorran was played by Basil Jones, Philip Morant, Simon Lack, Basil

Re: Minarets

gum...@gmail.com (Gumrat) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:28:32 UT

But wasn't lff the first to mention it, after which the Monkees puns
cascaded?

Re: OT: And did those feet?

g6...@soft255.demon.co.uk (J. P. Gilliver (John)) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:26:19 UT

In message <7nugfuF3n776...@mid.individua l.net>, BrritSki
I forwarded this to a friend (may not have included the last two or
three), and his verdict:
"The court finds the thred contributors guilty of groan worthy duck puns
in the first degree, mallard" <James.Todding...@baesystems.c om>

Re: Advent

steves...@invalid.com (steveski) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:45:04 UT

As far as the Bourbons (chocolate) go, all of the supermarkets here do them,
although I'm biased in favour of Waitrose and, at a pinch, Sainsbury's
(remember the marble counters?). I believe you live in Forn Parts, so next
time you're over here, stock up :-)

Re: Big Solier Wed 2/12

steves...@invalid.com (steveski) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:40:16 UT

And the tappin' o' the feets, Oh, waily, waily.

Re: Minarets

steves...@invalid.com (steveski) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:36:59 UT

But, but . . . loads of people got it, hence the cascade of Monkees puns,
shirley?
Or were you being *ironic* . . ?
Oh, dear - I've failed again :-)

Re: Minarets

gum...@gmail.com (Gumrat) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:17:31 UT

Phew! I hoped someone would get it, proving that I do not live
completely in a world of my own! Thanks for all the fishpuns, Linda!

Re: Advent

gum...@gmail.com (Gumrat) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:27:13 UT

So do you know why Bourbon biscuits are so called? Were they the
favourite of Louis Bourbon, or something like that? I love them but
it's years since I've eaten one or even seen a packet of Peek Freans on
a supermarket shelf. Do they still exist?

Re: Umratic recommendations

spam....@ntlworld.com (chris mcmillan) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:27:25 UT

In message <54bjh51pj02qamb7or5ra9il2vu3b dl...@4ax.com>, Jo Lonergan
<joloner...@hotmail.com> writes
As I don't really know what a crotchet is (without looking it up) those
sort of comments make me feel left out of the picture. And not being
able to read the music meant I didn't know whether what was being played

Re: Ask UMRA .. has any character been played by four different actors?

spam....@ntlworld.com (chris mcmillan) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:33:27 UT

In message <7nuqnoF3oagh...@mid.individua l.net>, DavidK
<Dav...@invalid.invalid> writes
Dan Archer. Harry Oakes, Monte Crick, Edgar Harrison, Frank Middlemass
Sincerely Chris

Re: Radio Times Spoilers - Week Beginning 6th December

spam....@ntlworld.com (chris mcmillan) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:35:26 UT

In message <4b1a3feb$0$4034$54022...@news .sunrise.ch>, Gumrat
<gum...@gmail.com> writes
She gets off with Leon
>
Caz has had *enough* of Lyndie.
>
Well we've got to try them out, Joe.
I give up after that.
Sincerely chris

Re: Minarets

spam....@ntlworld.com (chris mcmillan) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:20:21 UT

In message <Wr2dnZ6QCOZCuofWnZ2dnUVZ8rydn ...@brightview.co.uk>, Marjorie
<dontusethisaddr...@springequi nox.co.uk> writes
I think there was a passing reference not too many weeks ago but my
brain won't release the information on who spoke it or why. But I know
when the storyline on closure of the surgery was underway there was a

Re: Minarets

spam....@ntlworld.com (chris mcmillan) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:23:44 UT

In message <hfdkcv$so...@gemini.csx.cam.a c.uk>, Robin Fairbairns
<r...@cl.cam.ac.uk> writes
Ooo-err.
Sincerely Chris

Re: Minarets

spam....@ntlworld.com (chris mcmillan) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:18:02 UT

In message <nnakh5hm0kv6ufdgb2cs5qegjbp8f 64...@4ax.com>, Jo Lonergan
<joloner...@hotmail.com> writes
I definitely wouldn't be comfortable with anything like that. Portaloos
scare me enough as it is.
>
That's par for the course. I know where a group of hostels for students
were erected in 2000 and the entrance doors hadn't been made wide enough

Re: Advent

spam....@ntlworld.com (chris mcmillan) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:08:12 UT

In message <ohfjh5h8napj3an293abjeeget8ko 7h...@4ax.com>, Jo Lonergan
<joloner...@hotmail.com> writes
>
But then I didn't know that.
>
Nor that. I know I ought to get out more!
Sincerely Chris

Re: Anyone like this chap been on the Archers ?

spam....@ntlworld.com (chris mcmillan) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:12:52 UT

In message <81gjh5hmn3k4evnd4hs0poikv0af0 gb...@4ax.com>, Jo Lonergan
<joloner...@hotmail.com> writes
I have never seen a guide poodle but yes, they do exist. I@ve read
articles about them. Of course other assistance dogs use much smaller
dogs so its not beyond reason that breeds such as large poodles could be

Re: Big Solier Wed 2/12

spam....@ntlworld.com (chris mcmillan) — Fri, 12 Dec 2009 23:28:25 UT

In message <NbIfvKKxWZGLF...@local.machin e>, K Richard Whitbread
<richard.whitbr...@tesco.net> writes
Sadly, yes. And the labelling is already done largely.
Sincerely Chris

Re: Minarets

tinned.s...@ntlworld.com (Mike McMillan) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:09:48 UT

In message <hfdkcv$so...@gemini.csx.cam.a c.uk>, Robin Fairbairns
<r...@cl.cam.ac.uk> writes
I've fathomed that one out for myself.

Re: Radio Times Spoilers - Week Beginning 6th December

bobemble...@googlemail.com (BobE) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:06:49 UT

Now you can be Mary an I'll be the Holy Ghost...

Re: Radio Times Spoilers - Week Beginning 6th December

r...@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:41:38 UT

dang. i meant to say -- she encourages him in his plans for mulled whisky.

Re: Radio Times Spoilers - Week Beginning 6th December

r...@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:34:48 UT

she sleep-walks through the flat, saying, in a flat monotone "i slept
with that boyfriend of yours, whose name i can't remember[*]"
boz (or whatever her name is) is trying to interest the rest of the
company in a joint or two.
she takes to appearing at his window at all hours of day and night.
rwp has finally snapped, and is after her with a cleaver.

Re: Ask UMRA .. has any character been played by four different actors?

a...@betterwords.co.uk (Al Menzies) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:07:04 UT

At one time I was going to index The Archers Encyclopaedia, but the tuit
never arrived. I did, however, index the cast, with cross-references to
their characters. This index can be found at:
<[link]>
Given the age of the book, it is probably not worth doing an index for

Re: Anyone like this chap been on the Archers ?

dontusethisaddr...@springequinox.co.uk (Marjorie) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:09:52 UT

And it was regarded as a safe way of carrying a baby in the back of a
car - in the carrycot on the floor behind the front seat. Car seats were
only suitable for babies who could sit up, or over about 6 months. Ours
were very agile babies, and were climbing out of the carrycot by about 5
months, so they had to be strapped into a car seat before they were of

Re: Anyone like this chap been on the Archers ?

dontusethisaddr...@springequinox.co.uk (Marjorie) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:05:37 UT

You're right; and probably more important is that fact that you can't
get a pram (the larger type at least) in a car.
So they are used
That's right, the early Maclarens were supposed to be from 6 months up.
And the modern ones either have a basket-type attachment for tiny
babies, or else the seat adjusts to a lie-back position that can be used