Gumrat wrote: > carolet wrote: >> BobE wrote: >>> On 4 Nov, 20:57, Gumrat <gum...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I've googled and googled, but I can't find a black and white >>>> version (or a coloured one of the farewell song with Looby Lou) >>>> which includes Looby-Lou, who is, of course, my dorter wot I want >>>> to embarrass in front of her friends (she owes me big!). Anyone >>>> got a link, by any chance? >>> I can't remember Looby-Loo ever being involved in the farewell >>> song. Just the bricks turning over and a young Jill Archer singing >>> "Time to go hoam".
>> Indeed, as I recall it Andy Pandy and Ted (is that what he was >> called?) didn't know that Looby Loo was alive, she only came out when >> they disappeared.
> Ooh, I didn't realize that - but then why is Looby-Loo in the brick > picture with Andy and Teddy at the beginning and end of the prog?
I could well be wrong. Nobody else seems to be jumping up to support this memory.
I don't remember the picture, but I'm not sure that that proves that they were all friends, LL could be there as their toy, or it could be a picture intended purely for us, the watching children, constructed without their co-operation.
Linda Fox wrote: > On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:08:06 +0100, Gumrat <gum...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm just wondering where all that puts people like Chris Langham >> and Gary Glitter, who download photos of children from the internet
> I'm not sure I'd categorise those two together. GG seems to have been > clearly a serial getter-up-to-no-good, whereas I do believe in the > case of CL it was just prurience.
Yes, I think you're probably right about that. Wrong of me to equate their behaviour. It ruined both their careers, though.
-- Tout de bonbon, Anne, Seriously, Traditionally-Traditionally Built Gumbat
In message <0m0cf5l1po2ldtcq72b2luf6rn1tghp...@4ax.com>, Linda Fox
<linda...@ntlworld.com> writes: >On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:14:50 +0000, Kate Brown ><elv...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote: [] >>I liked the Flower Pot Men best. They spoke my language.
(Didn't Noel Edmonds generate some connection?)
>Daw sclobalob.
>It was Ben. Dirty little Ben!
>Bup ub little weed.
My mother would imitate the squeaky "wee-eed", well after we'd left childhood; I think she loved the prog. as much if not more than I. (My brother was deprived of this important part of our heritage: I was about 6, and he 2, when Dad took the job in Germany with B. A. O. R.. We subsequently got "Die Sendung mit der Maus" - and Sebastian, do they still have the Mainzel Maennchen culminating in Kapriolen?)
>lff
I think Bill and Ben must be definitely a contender for smallest set on which a long-running series was made. (Of course, I don't know if it really was long-running, or just repeated annually or whatever; I do know (subsequently, not at the time) Andy Pandy was a fairly short run much repeated.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously outdated thoughts on PCs. **
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>> Rosemary West, of course. I'd have thought that when we >> were young, they would have been the local scary yokels, but not been >> incarcerated for their behaviour. What do you think?
That's probably a good thing (that such people are now incarcerated). Whether the increased persecution of those _wrongly_ accused of such actions is a price worth paying, is an argument that has no end.
>Oooh, that's a whole can of worms you've opened there! So sorry to hear >you had a dreadful experience. Fortunately for us, neither I nor anyone
And I of course second that. I'm glad you are all right. []
>other such offences. But the loner who occasionally peeks at kids in >the park and likes to show them his willy is, in most cases, not likely >to want to do any more than that. The trouble is that such cases are
I went to my primary school on my own: can't remember the distance or time, but my memory tells me it was about 20 minutes. I don't remember any such exposure, but I don't _think_ the route went through a park. (There was a park nearby - Wollaton Park I think it was called, in Eaglescliffe, near Yarm, in what might then have been Yorkshire - but I don't remember ever being there on my own, though I was allowed to wander.) Possibly a more rural location, possibly being a boy, possibly I just don't remember. Incidentally, the female equivalent (perpetrator, not child) doesn't seem to feature in any of our memories: did they exist?
>all lumped together as "sexual offenders", even though many of them are
Yes, the general opprobrium is indiscriminate. (And anyone who dares to point this out is in danger of reprisal - I fear even saying this, even here.)
>unlikely to be a threat to the public, and all victims are regarded as >being terribly scarred and in need of support.
Yes. While in The Past - a somewhat amorphous point, but we all know what we mean - it was too far the other way, in that support/counselling was not really available at all, even in the most serious cases, it does seem to the observer that it has swung too far the other way, such that the fuss made might scar some "victims" more than the incident.
>The men we used to see from time to time while we were in the park were >probably the type who would never have approached us directly, but who
I suppose you can never know that, though.
>got their kicks from watching us play or from exposing themselves to >us. We would not have told our parents, because we knew that once we >did this, they'd be likely to curtail our movements or make an
Even more now, except that you'd not have had the freedom in the first place.
>embarrassing fuss. Nowadays there'd be real likelihood that we'd be >seen as victims of abuse, and offered counselling, whereas we were >quite unharmed by it, protected (psychologically) by our own innocence.
Of course, to some extent that innocence is less there nowadays - though I suspect more so than thought. []
>I hesitate to blame the internet for what people choose to do, but it
Hooray! Usually, when this subject is discussed, the Internet is seen as an absolute evil: it's the techno-hate which underlies a lot of people anyway, and in this case is unfettered (because this is seen as justified). Sorry, I've wandered here, but techno-hate I feel strongly about, and the internet is one of its major targets.
>has opened up new possibilities to those who are sexually disturbed or
It has certainly made a lot more conventional porn available. I rather suspect that the really nasty stuff of the sort we're discussing is still more monitored than we'd think, if only to catch people, but it probably _is_ available for those willing to search hard, in ways it wasn't before (though "under-the-counter" was always - we are led to believe - there). Of course, digital cameras have probably been the biggest contributor to the pornographer (of all sorts) - the immediacy, and the removal of the necessity to develop or have developed. []
>children. On the other hand, children are being taught to speak out and >to question inappropriate behaviour by adults, so there is now less >chance of them suffering years of abuse in institutions like boarding >schools, the Church or youth groups. One of the awful things about the
Indeed - and I hope that institutional abuse of that sort, whether actually by an institution or by a specific individual, has actually been significantly reduced as a result. The unfortunate side-effect, of course, is that it is now possible for a child - sometimes even unintentionally, but certainly deliberately - to ruin the life of a teacher or similar such person. This, in fact, is one of the major reasons I would not consider going into teaching, which I think is a pity, as I think I'd have something to contribute there - I like teaching. []
>I still think it probable that the chances of a child in this country >being a victim of any sexual misbehaviour by a stranger are no greater >than they ever were.
Indeed. Or any other such misbehaviour - an aspect that seems hardly considered these days. (To the extent that I have to think hard to think what they might be - I suppose torture, exploitation, and so on.) Even traffic danger, while it probably _is_ considerably greater, probably isn't as much so as it is perceived, because there are more railings and other barriers to road crossing except at lights (and underpasses) than there once were. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously outdated thoughts on PCs. **
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<Brrit...@iname.com> writes: >LFS wrote: >> the Omrud wrote: >>> LFS wrote: >>>> the Omrud wrote: [] >>>>> Cars, very few. Scary yokels - my hunch is that there were no >>>>>fewer and no more than there are now.
>>>> I share your hunch.
>>> There's no such thing as a free hunch, you know.
>> YAQuasimodoAICM5GBP
>You'll be tolled off for that.
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the Omrud wrote: > LFS wrote: >> the Omrud wrote: >>> chris mcmillan wrote: >>>> In message >>>> <f77e09e6-776f-49b5-a3e2-aae02c2f5...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, >>>> BobE <bobemble...@googlemail.com> writes >>>>> On 4 Nov, 20:57, Gumrat <gum...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> I've googled and googled, but I can't find a black and white >>>>>> version (or >>>>>> a coloured one of the farewell song with Looby Lou) which includes >>>>>> Looby-Lou, who is, of course, my dorter wot I want to embarrass in >>>>>> front >>>>>> of her friends (she owes me big!). Anyone got a link, by any chance?
>>>>> I can't remember Looby-Loo ever being involved in the farewell song. >>>>> Just the bricks turning over and a young Jill Archer singing "Time to >>>>> go hoam".
>>>>> Andy Pandy was Tuesday with the Flowerpot Men on Wednesday, Rag, Tag & >>>>> Bobtail on Thursdays and the biggest spotted dog you ever did see on >>>>> Fridays with that gorgeous Mrs Scrubbit.
>>>> But what was Monday? (Or was that Woodentops?)
>>> Picture Book. Although I don't really remember which day was which - >>> I was not really old enough to care.
>>> I do a mean visual Spotty Dog impression.
>> This I must see. When will you next be in a Hilton within striking >> distance of where I live?
> Times is hard - we are being threatened with a "new hotel policy".
As in "The park bench is the new hotel"?
> I > may have my travelling activities curtailed.
Happens to me frequently - all too often at Birmingham New Street.
-- Stephen
You shall this twelvemonth term from day to day Visit the speechless sick and still converse With groaning wretches, and your task shall be With all the fierce endeavour of thy wit To enforce the pained impotent to smile.
>> We never knew the brand name of tea cakes, and we rarely had them at >> home, but we bought them surreptitiously at the tuck shop. A penny >> each. I should really explain what a tea cake is/was, but I'm making >> calzone and it requires some effort in the kitchen.
> Sorry - that was probably confusing. Conversing with Laura, I had > imagined myself in AUE, rather than UMRA. Strange British food > requires explanation in AUE, but clearly not in UMRA.
Well, I was clearly in need of an explanation. I was imagining the toasted tea cake/bun type of tea cake. Not until marshmallow was mentioned did I remember the other meaning of this name, even though I have seen them being eaten not so long ago.
>a Wednesday I have the less able year 1 - age 5-6 - and sing "time to
Thank you: for giving the age! So often in discussions of academic matters, either transpondal or between generations, terms such as "year x", "yth form", and so on - let alone freshman, sophomore and so on - are used, and we (on both sides of whichever divide) have little idea of the stage/age being discussed.
>go home, we've had a nice day, it's time to go home, now we are waving >goodbye etc"
>And then say "bye-bye Possums" because that is the name of their class >(all our classes keep the same animal name all through the school, the >crocodiles left last year) and several of them say "bye-bye Possums" >back to me. I don't think they've quite got the hang of this yet, as >we say on umra.
Stephen wrote: > the Omrud wrote: >> LFS wrote: >>> the Omrud wrote: >>>> chris mcmillan wrote: >>>>> In message >>>>> <f77e09e6-776f-49b5-a3e2-aae02c2f5...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, >>>>> BobE <bobemble...@googlemail.com> writes >>>>>> On 4 Nov, 20:57, Gumrat <gum...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> I've googled and googled, but I can't find a black and white >>>>>>> version (or >>>>>>> a coloured one of the farewell song with Looby Lou) which includes >>>>>>> Looby-Lou, who is, of course, my dorter wot I want to embarrass >>>>>>> in front >>>>>>> of her friends (she owes me big!). Anyone got a link, by any chance?
>>>>>> I can't remember Looby-Loo ever being involved in the farewell song. >>>>>> Just the bricks turning over and a young Jill Archer singing "Time to >>>>>> go hoam".
>>>>>> Andy Pandy was Tuesday with the Flowerpot Men on Wednesday, Rag, >>>>>> Tag & >>>>>> Bobtail on Thursdays and the biggest spotted dog you ever did see on >>>>>> Fridays with that gorgeous Mrs Scrubbit.
>>>>> But what was Monday? (Or was that Woodentops?)
>>>> Picture Book. Although I don't really remember which day was which >>>> - I was not really old enough to care.
>>>> I do a mean visual Spotty Dog impression.
>>> This I must see. When will you next be in a Hilton within striking >>> distance of where I live?
>> Times is hard - we are being threatened with a "new hotel policy".
>I went to my primary school on my own: can't remember the distance or >time, but my memory tells me it was about 20 minutes.
I had been told, on my first day at school, that, at lunchtime, some kids stayed at school whilst others went home, and my mum would be there to collect me. At what I now know to be morning play, I asked somebody else if this was the time when some people went home, and was told that it was.
To my mum's surprise, I arrived home mid-morning under my own steam.
Thus was born the cynicism that has dogged me since.
Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham '48/29 M B+ G+ A L(-) I S-- CH0(--)(p) Ar+ T+ H0 ?Q ch...@cdixon.me.uk Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.
the Omrud wrote: > Stephen wrote: >> the Omrud wrote: >>> LFS wrote: >>>> the Omrud wrote: >>>>> chris mcmillan wrote: >>>>>> In message >>>>>> <f77e09e6-776f-49b5-a3e2-aae02c2f5...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, >>>>>> BobE <bobemble...@googlemail.com> writes >>>>>>> On 4 Nov, 20:57, Gumrat <gum...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> I've googled and googled, but I can't find a black and white >>>>>>>> version (or >>>>>>>> a coloured one of the farewell song with Looby Lou) which includes >>>>>>>> Looby-Lou, who is, of course, my dorter wot I want to embarrass >>>>>>>> in front >>>>>>>> of her friends (she owes me big!). Anyone got a link, by any >>>>>>>> chance?
>>>>>>> I can't remember Looby-Loo ever being involved in the farewell song. >>>>>>> Just the bricks turning over and a young Jill Archer singing >>>>>>> "Time to >>>>>>> go hoam".
>>>>>>> Andy Pandy was Tuesday with the Flowerpot Men on Wednesday, Rag, >>>>>>> Tag & >>>>>>> Bobtail on Thursdays and the biggest spotted dog you ever did see on >>>>>>> Fridays with that gorgeous Mrs Scrubbit.
>>>>>> But what was Monday? (Or was that Woodentops?)
>>>>> Picture Book. Although I don't really remember which day was which >>>>> - I was not really old enough to care.
>>>>> I do a mean visual Spotty Dog impression.
>>>> This I must see. When will you next be in a Hilton within striking >>>> distance of where I live?
>>> Times is hard - we are being threatened with a "new hotel policy".
>> As in "The park bench is the new hotel"?
> More likely, "The Travelodge is the new Hilton".
So who's the new Paris Hilton?
-- Stephen
You shall this twelvemonth term from day to day Visit the speechless sick and still converse With groaning wretches, and your task shall be With all the fierce endeavour of thy wit To enforce the pained impotent to smile.
>>>>>> I walked to and from school unescorted from the age of five, as >>>>>> did all my classmates.
>>>>> Likewise. >>>>> If my mother was waiting for me outside the school at going home time >>>>> it was real bad news - dentist or worse - buying shoes.
>>>> My mother was always at home, with a Tunnock's tea cake and a glass >>>> of milk waiting for me. Happy days.
>>> Were tea cakes kosher?
>> Probably not, I expect the marshmallow contained gelatine.
> Tunnock's tea cakes are suitable for vegetarians. > They contain no gelatin. > Whether they are strictly kosher or not is a separate issue :)
I wonder if that was the case back in the 1950s, though. They don't taste the same as they used to :)
BrritSki wrote: > LFS wrote: >> the Omrud wrote: >>> LFS wrote: >>>> the Omrud wrote: >>>>> Gumrat wrote: >>>>>> Marjorie wrote: >>>>>>> ...which reminds me that at 7 I used to walk home from my piano >>>>>>> lesson on my own, at least half a mile's walk that took me across >>>>>>> a main road and through a park.
>>>>> I walked to school and back on my own from the age of about five, >>>>> and I sometimes cycled to school on my own from the age of seven. >>>>> I suppose it was about three-quarters of a mile away. I also went >>>>> to Cubs on my own.
>>>> I walked to and from school (three-quarters of a mile, I just >>>> checked on Multimap) unescorted from the age of five, as did all my >>>> classmates. At eleven, I travelled across a fair chunk of N.W. >>>> London to School, by bus, tube and a walk through a small park which >>>> was, now I think about it, quite isolated. My parents' only worry >>>> was that I would get lost as I had (and still have) little sense of >>>> direction.
>>>> Our children walked to school and back alone from the age of nine >>>> when they transferred to middle school, about half a mile from home >>>> but through a rather nasty underpass which worried me a bit.
>>>>>> How many cars on the roads then, though? And how many scary local >>>>>> yokels in the parks? :-)
>>>>> Cars, very few. Scary yokels - my hunch is that there were no >>>>> fewer and no more than there are now.
>>>> I share your hunch.
>>> There's no such thing as a free hunch, you know.
> Linda Fox wrote: >> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:08:06 +0100, Gumrat <gum...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm just wondering where all that puts people like Chris Langham >>> and Gary Glitter, who download photos of children from the internet
>> I'm not sure I'd categorise those two together. GG seems to have been >> clearly a serial getter-up-to-no-good, whereas I do believe in the case >> of CL it was just prurience.
> Yes, I think you're probably right about that. Wrong of me to equate > their behaviour. It ruined both their careers, though.
Funnily enough, somebody on another NG mentioned this weekend that around this time in 1981 a Sunday paper ran an expose about a 13-year-old girl claiming to have been seduced by Glitter, but the story didn't run much longer at the time. The reason the subject came up was that Glitter was in the charts 28 years ago this week with 'And Then She Kissed Me'.
Chris -- "Back next week with another ridiculous tie knot"
>Stephen wrote: >> the Omrud wrote: >>> LFS wrote: >>>> the Omrud wrote: >>>>> chris mcmillan wrote: >>>>>> In message >>>>>><f77e09e6-776f-49b5-a3e2-aae02c2f5...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, >>>>>>BobE <bobemble...@googlemail.com> writes >>>>>>> On 4 Nov, 20:57, Gumrat <gum...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> I've googled and googled, but I can't find a black and white >>>>>>>>version (or >>>>>>>> a coloured one of the farewell song with Looby Lou) which includes >>>>>>>> Looby-Lou, who is, of course, my dorter wot I want to embarrass >>>>>>>>in front >>>>>>>> of her friends (she owes me big!). Anyone got a link, by any chance?
>>>>>>> I can't remember Looby-Loo ever being involved in the farewell song. >>>>>>> Just the bricks turning over and a young Jill Archer singing "Time to >>>>>>> go hoam".
>>>>>>> Andy Pandy was Tuesday with the Flowerpot Men on Wednesday, Rag, >>>>>>>Tag & >>>>>>> Bobtail on Thursdays and the biggest spotted dog you ever did see on >>>>>>> Fridays with that gorgeous Mrs Scrubbit.
>>>>>> But what was Monday? (Or was that Woodentops?)
>>>>> Picture Book. Although I don't really remember which day was >>>>>which - I was not really old enough to care.
>>>>> I do a mean visual Spotty Dog impression.
>>>> This I must see. When will you next be in a Hilton within striking >>>>distance of where I live?
>>> Times is hard - we are being threatened with a "new hotel policy". >> As in "The park bench is the new hotel"?
>More likely, "The Travelodge is the new Hilton".
Well don't have the breakfasts. They're not wurf it.
>>>>> I walked to and from school unescorted from the age of five, as >>>>>did all my classmates.
>>>> Likewise. >>>> If my mother was waiting for me outside the school at going home time >>>> it was real bad news - dentist or worse - buying shoes.
>>> My mother was always at home, with a Tunnock's tea cake and a glass >>>of milk waiting for me. Happy days. >> Were tea cakes kosher?
>Probably not, I expect the marshmallow contained gelatine. But we also >had Rowntree's jelly which is odd, now I think about it. The only >bought cake we ever had was what I called "weekend cake" because it was >bought form Waddington's the bakers at the weekend. It was battenburg, >still my favourite (Husband came back from Tesco's today with two >because he can't resist a BOGOF and he knew they would cheer me up).
>> We never knew the brand name of tea cakes, and we rarely had them at >>home, but we bought them surreptitiously at the tuck shop. A penny >>each. >> I should really explain what a tea cake is/was, but I'm making >>calzone and it requires some effort in the kitchen.
>Ooh, rolled up pizza, yum. It's Indian takeaway night here.
The McTs had a BBQ last night, and Wunderkind organised bonfire and fireworks. She knew she wouldn't get them otherwise! Oh, and the marshmallows cooked on the BBQ.
Sincerely Chris -- Chris McMillan sig line taking a holiday
>On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:45:46 +0100, Jo Lonergan ><joloner...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:57:25 +0100, Gumrat <gum...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>I've googled and googled, but I can't find a black and white version (or >>>a coloured one of the farewell song with Looby Lou) which includes >>>Looby-Lou, who is, of course, my dorter wot I want to embarrass in front >>>of her friends (she owes me big!). Anyone got a link, by any chance?
>>Is it a video you're looking for? I expect the tapes were shredded long ago, in >>one of the Beeb's acts of vandalism.
>>Now I've got the blasted song going round my head.
>I still use it in school for the very youngest! if it's the last >lesson of the day. I don't have reception any more, but last thing on >a Wednesday I have the less able year 1 - age 5-6 - and sing "time to >go home, we've had a nice day, it's time to go home, now we are waving >goodbye etc"
I sang it to and with the babies I was teaching English to last year in the Spanish school when I was with them last thing, while we waited for them to be collected.
Time to go home, time to go home, all of the children it's time to go home
>And then say "bye-bye Possums" because that is the name of their class >(all our classes keep the same animal name all through the school, the >crocodiles left last year) and several of them say "bye-bye Possums" >back to me. I don't think they've quite got the hang of this yet, as >we say on umra.
>On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:14:50 +0000, Kate Brown ><elv...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, Gumrat wrote >>>Marjorie wrote: >>>> the Omrud wrote: >>>>> chris mcmillan wrote: >>>>>> In message >>>>>><f77e09e6-776f-49b5-a3e2-aae02c2f5...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, >>>>>> BobE <bobemble...@googlemail.com> writes >>>>>>> On 4 Nov, 20:57, Gumrat <gum...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> I've googled and googled, but I can't find a black and white >>>>>>>> version (or a coloured one of the farewell song with Looby Lou) >>>>>>>>which includes Looby-Lou, who is, of course, my dorter wot I want >>>>>>>>to embarrass in front of her friends (she owes me >>>>>>>> big!). Anyone got a link, by any chance? >>>>>>> I can't remember Looby-Loo ever being involved in the farewell >>>>>>> song. Just the bricks turning over and a young Jill Archer >>>>>>>singing "Time to go hoam".
>>>I thought Looby-Loo came out of the brickwork right at the end to wave >>>good-bye. But I didn't like Andy Pandy much, so probably wasn't paying >>>attention at the back. As far as I was concerned, the week improved as >>>it went on, Bill & Ben being great flobbadop, with Rag, Tag and Bobtail >>>providing gentle amusement and Friday's Woodtops with Spottydog being >>>the bee's knees :-)
>>I am having trouble remembering this, but I thought I remembered a big >>toy basket thingy that they all jumped into and then the lid closed. >>Don't actually remember any bricks at all, but googling videos for Andy >>Pandy (which I suppose you were looking at?) shows me my memory has even >>more holes than I thought.
>>I liked the Flower Pot Men best. They spoke my language.
>Daw sclobalob.
>It was Ben. Dirty little Ben!
>Bup ub little weed.
>lff
Bupping up little weeds is extra Luv. -- Mike McMillan, The email address is spam trapped but any genuine communications may be sent to mike dot mcmillan at ntlworld dot com
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>In message <7lnkjgF3e8cq...@mid.individual.net>, BrritSki ><Brrit...@iname.com> writes: >>LFS wrote: >>> the Omrud wrote: >>>> LFS wrote: >>>>> the Omrud wrote: >[] >>>>>> Cars, very few. Scary yokels - my hunch is that there were no >>>>>>fewer and no more than there are now.
>>>>> I share your hunch.
>>>> There's no such thing as a free hunch, you know.
>>> YAQuasimodoAICM5GBP
>>You'll be tolled off for that.
>Someone could be arrested for doing that ...
...and clappered in irons. -- Mike McMillan, The email address is spam trapped but any genuine communications may be sent to mike dot mcmillan at ntlworld dot com
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>>On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:45:46 +0100, Jo Lonergan >><joloner...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:57:25 +0100, Gumrat <gum...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>I've googled and googled, but I can't find a black and white version (or >>>>a coloured one of the farewell song with Looby Lou) which includes >>>>Looby-Lou, who is, of course, my dorter wot I want to embarrass in front >>>>of her friends (she owes me big!). Anyone got a link, by any chance?
>>>Is it a video you're looking for? I expect the tapes were shredded >>>long ago, in >>>one of the Beeb's acts of vandalism.
[] I rather suspect this would have been on film, not tape; I think videotape came in in the 1960s. (Did they really shred tape, or are you just speaking metaphorically?)
When you say you can't find, do you mean on YouTube etc., or in the shops? I have a memory that the Beeb did sell a tape or DVD of a lot of the prog.s from this period, a few years ago. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously outdated thoughts on PCs. **
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In message <vK2dnZ_XVrOkE2vXnZ2dnUVZ7oidn...@brightview.co.uk>, Marjorie <dontusethisaddr...@springequinox.co.uk> writes
>I still think it probable that the chances of a child in this country >being a victim of any sexual misbehaviour by a stranger are no greater >than they ever were.
I think I heard somewhere that any individual child was much safer in those days because there were so many more of them allowed out to play, walk to school/music lessons/cubs etc. The person I heard saying this reckoned there were just as many molesters but a much smaller choice of molestees so a child was more likely to be molested. -- Jenny "I always like to have the morning well-aired before I get up." (Beau Brummel, 1778-1840)
Jenny M Benson wrote: > In message <vK2dnZ_XVrOkE2vXnZ2dnUVZ7oidn...@brightview.co.uk>, Marjorie > <dontusethisaddr...@springequinox.co.uk> writes >> I still think it probable that the chances of a child in this country >> being a victim of any sexual misbehaviour by a stranger are no greater >> than they ever were.
> I think I heard somewhere that any individual child was much safer in > those days because there were so many more of them allowed out to play, > walk to school/music lessons/cubs etc. The person I heard saying this > reckoned there were just as many molesters but a much smaller choice of > molestees so a child was more likely to be molested.
There's some truth in that. I think it's probably also true that the very fact of there being other children around made it difficult for potential molesters to actually do anything.
> [] >>> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:45:46 +0100, Jo Lonergan >>> <joloner...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:57:25 +0100, Gumrat <gum...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I've googled and googled, but I can't find a black and white >>>>> version (or >>>>> a coloured one of the farewell song with Looby Lou) which includes >>>>> Looby-Lou, who is, of course, my dorter wot I want to embarrass in >>>>> front >>>>> of her friends (she owes me big!). Anyone got a link, by any chance?
>>>> Is it a video you're looking for? I expect the tapes were shredded >>>> long ago, in one of the Beeb's acts of vandalism. > [] > I rather suspect this would have been on film, not tape; I think > videotape came in in the 1960s. (Did they really shred tape, or are you > just speaking metaphorically?)
They didn't shred tape, but they did reuse it for other programmes. It was fantastically expensive in the early years.
<usenet.om...@gEXPUNGEmail.com> writes: >J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: >> [] >>>> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:45:46 +0100, Jo Lonergan >>>> <joloner...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:57:25 +0100, Gumrat <gum...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I've googled and googled, but I can't find a black and white >>>>>>version (or >>>>>> a coloured one of the farewell song with Looby Lou) which includes >>>>>> Looby-Lou, who is, of course, my dorter wot I want to embarrass >>>>>>in front >>>>>> of her friends (she owes me big!). Anyone got a link, by any chance?
>>>>> Is it a video you're looking for? I expect the tapes were shredded >>>>>long ago, in one of the Beeb's acts of vandalism. >> [] >> I rather suspect this would have been on film, not tape; I think >>videotape came in in the 1960s. (Did they really shred tape, or are >>you just speaking metaphorically?)
>They didn't shred tape, but they did reuse it for other programmes. It >was fantastically expensive in the early years.
Yes, 2" wide, and only lasted about 5 uses, I think. (And the machines not much longer.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously outdated thoughts on PCs. **