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Re: OT - since when was "insulting" a crime ?

adamwadswo...@blueyonder.co.uk (ARWadsworth) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 22:22:39 UT

Sorry Tim - that one has gone over the top - I did wonder if the Latin
for 'sword scabbards' was like something dubious in English but no
such luck.
Rob
Obscenis, peream, Priape, si non
uti me pudet improbisque verbis
sed cum tu posito deus pudore
ostendas mihi coleos patentes
cum cunno mihi mentula est vocanda

Re: Wood burning stove

n...@sylva.icuklive.co.uk (andrew) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 22:20:38 UT

This is the way I would go and maybe make a feature of the flue pipe.
Failing that Poulat do some prefabbed coverings.
AJH

Re: Boiler Scrappage

jules.richardsonn...@remove.this.gmail.com (Jules) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 22:19:05 UT

is that from the 1st April, by any chance? :)

Re: Where get wall-mounted timer switch for a room light?

robkgra...@btinternet.com (robgraham) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 22:18:22 UT

Just as much as I love the electricity bill when it comes in
Rob

Re: Grant oil-fired condensing boilers

robkgra...@btinternet.com (robgraham) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 22:17:03 UT

Ditto - less the coal and 'occasional peat', and I live near
Edinburgh!
Rob

Re: Source for length of microbore pipe?

pknw29...@blueyonder.co.uk (petek) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 22:13:38 UT

Just bought a 1 mtr length from my local plumbers merchant (not one of
the big ones). He just cut it off a coil, cost was about thirty bob.
He did mention though that he doesn't sell much 10mm these days and
because it's going out of fashion it's getting harder to get hold of.
Pete K.

Re: Christmas pressie list?

robkgra...@btinternet.com (robgraham) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 22:13:23 UT

On 9 Dec, 19:36, "The Medway Handyman"
Somehow that doesn't have quite the appeal of the V8 engined one -
rather lacking the sexy touch !!
Rob

Re: BBC jakes GW demo?

ro...@nospam.zetnet.co.uk (Roger Chapman) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 22:13:15 UT

snip
The reference contains a definition of temperature.

Re: BBC jakes GW demo?

ro...@nospam.zetnet.co.uk (Roger Chapman) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 22:11:12 UT

That you don't find the cites relevant says a good deal more about you
than it does about me, particularly when you don't come up with any
cites of your own.

Re: Danfoss RMT230D installation.

pknw29...@blueyonder.co.uk (petek) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 22:09:47 UT

I've just had a technical query (very simple) about an RNT230 answered
by the Tech. Dept at Danfoss. They were very helpful and sent a prompt
reply. Here's the e-mail address:
Wynn Adrian [Adrian_W...@Danfoss.com]
Cheers
Pete K.

Re: Fitting a bath

spuorgelg...@gowanhill.com (Owain) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 22:09:26 UT

Would a double-mid-thigh amputee be the right height?
Owain

Re: Wood burning stove

t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk (Tim Lamb) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:56:28 UT

In message
<608cb6b6-da88-4feb-82e5-baaa8 404e...@m3g2000yqf.googlegroup s.com>,
"d...@gglz.com" <d...@gglz.com> writes
I have done that! Surprisingly easy. Once you know the roof pitch and
the brick gauge, each section of stepped flashing can be made up on the
bench and then carried up to the roof.

Re: OT - Spiral

t...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 22:08:25 UT

And the real aspersion on UK womanhood, is that its so much better than
the real thing 9 times out of 10.

reporting back on loft boarding

jkn...@nicorp.co.uk (The Night Tripper) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 22:07:17 UT

Hi All
I've asked various questions here on aspects of a recent project to
insulate and board my loft. I thought I'd report back now that it's mostly
done.
- I originally thought of putting cross-joists in, celeotex sheets between
these joists, and then boarding over those joists. In the end I was

Re: BBC jakes GW demo?

t...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 22:07:12 UT

Hint. And how much water vapour can you store in warm air as opposed to
cold?
Hint. Why does water vapour become mist of cloud, when it cools?
Hint. Why is it cooler after it rains?
I see that one passed so far over your head it might as well have been a
satellite.

Re: Makita for sale

d...@puffin. (D.M.Chapman) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 22:05:21 UT

In article <pPTTm.13728$Ym4.3...@text.new s.virginmedia.com>,
[snip]
Now if you'd said earlier in the year ;-)
I've got the same set - somewhat less run in mind. Excellent. One of the
best buys I've made in a while...
Darren

Re: Fitting a bath

spuorgelg...@gowanhill.com (Owain) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 22:05:19 UT

I do.
If I tried to twiddle the shower valve with my toes I'd do myself an
injury.
Owain

Re: BBC jakes GW demo?

t...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 22:05:12 UT

tree ring is more indicative of rainfall than CO2.
There is allegedly a big correlation between tree ring data and drawn
cricket matches (wisden) it being supposed that rain was the cause of both.

Re: BBC jakes GW demo?

t...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 22:03:09 UT

Pass.
better than 97% as an estimate.

Re: OT - since when was "insulting" a crime ?

ra...@kateda.org (geoff) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:52:48 UT

In message <k7STm.13677$Ym4.8...@text.new s.virginmedia.com>, ARWadsworth
<adamwadswo...@blueyonder.co.u k> writes
Or the old Billy Bremner line
"What would happen if I called you a cunt ?
So what would happen if I just think you are a cunt"
...Or something like that

Re: BBC jakes GW demo?

den...@killspam.kicks-ass.net (dennis@home) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 22:02:57 UT

But not Australia any more.
They have decided it isn't worth the effort.

Re: BBC jakes GW demo?

den...@killspam.kicks-ass.net (dennis@home) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:57:28 UT

Why can't you understand what stores energy in the atmosphere?
A hint.. lots of latent energy in the form of water vapour.
You are in a sock?

Re: OT - since when was "insulting" a crime ?

robkgra...@btinternet.com (robgraham) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:55:36 UT

Sorry Tim - that one has gone over the top - I did wonder if the Latin
for 'sword scabbards' was like something dubious in English but no
such luck.
Rob

Re: Fitting a bath

dewhu...@wave.co.nz (Roger Dewhurst) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:55:03 UT

If they can stand they can be washed in a shower. If they cannot stand
just wash them in the laundry sink. Many new houses in Australia and
New Zealand do not have baths; showers only. Baths are pretty unhygenic.

Re: BBC jakes GW demo?

den...@killspam.kicks-ass.net (dennis@home) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:54:40 UT

Yes its so easy that you keep posting stuff that is irrelevant.
you obviously don't know what they mean or you wouldn't post them.

Re: London analogue TV problems?

ra...@kateda.org (geoff) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:44:09 UT

In message <nospam-71CF6A.13541709122...@ news.virginmedia.com>,
eastender <nos...@nospam.com> writes
Here in Watford, we had really bad reception yesterday and earlier today
on BBC1 , seems to be better now
ITV and CH4 are as bad as ever ...

Re: BBC jakes GW demo?

den...@killspam.kicks-ass.net (dennis@home) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:52:41 UT

So what?
Are you actually trying to say something or just posting cr@p links for the
sake of it?

Re: BBC jakes GW demo?

ro...@nospam.zetnet.co.uk (Roger Chapman) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:46:49 UT

It is compelling enough to have persuaded most governments to take AGW
seriously. (Even China).
I don't think TMH has any intention of letting us.
If the increase is not responsible for some warming then you are back to
the assumption that CO2 is not a greenhouse gas (or the deceitful
scientists are making it all up).

Re: OT - since when was "insulting" a crime ?

daven...@btopenworld.com (Dave) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:44:25 UT

Well, it does have much more sense and sensitivity :-)
Dave

Re: OT - since when was "insulting" a crime ?

daven...@btopenworld.com (Dave) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:42:04 UT

fred wrote:
That's what I always believed.
Dave

Re: OT - since when was "insulting" a crime ?

dicegeo...@hotmail.com (george [dicegeorge]) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:32:35 UT

fred wrote:
can a c*** sue you for inculting it by comparing it with a copper?
[g]

Re: Boiler Scrappage

ra...@kateda.org (geoff) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:31:32 UT

In message <qJPTm.13623$Ym4.7...@text.new s.virginmedia.com>, ARWadsworth
<adamwadswo...@blueyonder.co.u k> writes
I thought this actually started some time ago, it's certainly been
talked about in the plumbing and heating rag
If a new boiler saves a ton of co2 / year, how much was created in
manufacturing it

Re: Danfoss RMT230D installation.

watt.ty...@googlemail.com (Roger Mills) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:24:03 UT

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
What makes you think that *anything* needs to connect to it? You're just
using it as an on/off switch, and thus just need to use 2 of the contacts -
COM, plus one or other[1] of the others.
The fact that it has an additional contact which makes when the room

Re: OT - Spiral

ra...@kateda.org (geoff) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:18:46 UT

In message <a1evh5pp76ea55at4kbabs7q7co0i hm...@4ax.com>, Grimly
Curmudgeon <grimly4REM...@REMOVEgmail.com > writes
It's how most sexual fantasies end ...

Re: BBC jakes GW demo?

davidl...@nospamblueyonder.co.uk (The Medway Handyman) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:21:22 UT

You aren't bright enough to wind anyone up.
[link]

Re: Wood burning stove

t...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:19:57 UT

Only premissible if te existing flue is sound.
And generally a Bad Idea for a wood stove. Use solid insulated double
walled STAINLESS STEEL. Aluminium corrugated will not survive a chimney
fire, or even a good roaring fire.
I
It is permissible to take a stainless steel flue straight through a

Re: Wood burning stove

t...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:17:08 UT

It is. Installation of a stove is a 'material change' and the flue MUST
be to spec. That means these days LINED. open fires you can get away
with, stoves not.
Been there done that.

Re: Wood burning stove

t...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:15:48 UT

Only rigid insulated flues are permissible really. Work SHOULD have a
building notice as well, or be carried out by registered installers.

Re: Wood burning stove

t...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:14:37 UT

Yes, but actually, sod the stack altogether. Simply use double skinned
insulated lining all the way to a cowl.
You should. A stove in the bedroom is luvverly.
Just spend a grand on te liner and a grand on the stove and be happy.

Re: Radiators in series - good or bad?

harry.m1...@nospam.tiscali.co.uk (Harry Bloomfield) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:14:11 UT

d...@gglz.com brought next idea :
I cannot think of any serious ones....
The flow might be very slightly less, due to the extra restriction and
the second radiator from the flow side will run a little cooler, due to
the water having lost some of its heat in the first one.

Re: Boiler Scrappage

allsortsnotthis...@howhill.com (Dave Liquorice) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:02:48 UT

load
So the 5kW installed capacity increases to 25kW... Hardley something
to put in your back garden. Even 5kW windmill has a rotor 6m (20') in
dia ontop of a 10m (30') pole.
I think I've seen rates of 7.5p/unit selling to the grid but probably
only on wind turbine sellers sites rather than any DNO information.

Re: Boiler Scrappage

t...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:11:24 UT

Oh yes. 900 quid a year is 9000 KWH 9 MWh. a year is roughly 9000 hours,
so that's an average of 1Kw.
My whole house runs on about that. Everything. 1Kw is a shade over a
horsepower. Its the sort of power you get out of a model aircraft engine
turning a finger shredding 10" prop at 10,000 RPM.
Its probably what you would get from a windmill about 50 feet high with

Re: BBC jakes GW demo?

t...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:05:25 UT

I am speechless.
Surely this is drivel in a different sock?

Re: BBC jakes GW demo?

t...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:04:25 UT

good grief. Did you really think that made any sense to anyone with any
background in science?

Re: BBC jakes GW demo?

t...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:03:34 UT

It was. There were purple sunsets for two years.

Re: BBC jakes GW demo?

t...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 21:02:57 UT

Largely BEFORE the CO2 had been released by industrialisation but quite
a nice period after it, and a couple of major eruptions, had pumped teh
air full of dust.
the freak heat wave in 1858 when temperatures hit over 100f,
WE get summers like that these days every 5 years or so. 100F is
nothing. 100F was originally chosen as 'the hottest day in summer' as 0F

Re: BBC jakes GW demo?

manatba...@hotmail.com (Man at B&Q) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 20:58:14 UT

I would call it circumstantial, rather than compelling.
CO2 is a greenhouse gas, lets put that one to bed.
So it reduces to "For there to have been no AGW you would have to
accept that mankind had nothing to do with the 50% increase in CO2
concentrations"
Why? Of course mankind is responsible for CO2, along with many other

Re: BBC jakes GW demo?

ro...@nospam.zetnet.co.uk (Roger Chapman) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 20:57:26 UT

Of course I can answer for myself. I keep on quoting Wikipedia for 3
reasons:
1) It is an easy source of information and so saves me time.
2) It winds TMH up.
3) As a cite it should be a constant reminder that TMH (IIRC) has never
once cited any source for the garbage he peddles.

Re: Radiators in series - good or bad?

use...@yaph.co.uk (YAPH) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 20:57:17 UT

I don't know how historic you're getting here. I've not come across any
such. Even single-pipe systems don't put the radiators in series: each
rad has a bypass pipe in parallel with it, and the rad+bypass
combinations are in series with each other. This is quite different to
what the OP is asking about, if you think about it.

Re: BBC jakes GW demo?

t...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 20:55:49 UT

I think you would have to be a scientist to understand the answer one
might give you.