I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. At the time of looking around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through (well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about them. They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors and are, of course, all unlabelled.
In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. At least I can plug either into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. (Why would someone have two aerials into one room?) One is at one end of the bay, the other's at t'other.
I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. Will need a pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is built-up on a high surface.
The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil. The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.
Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. When I come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to where the outer insulation's been cut away?
> I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. At the time of looking > around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through > (well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about > them. They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors > and are, of course, all unlabelled.
> In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both > carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. At least I can plug either > into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. (Why > would someone have two aerials into one room?) One is at one end of the > bay, the other's at t'other.
> I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. Will need a > pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is > built-up on a high surface.
> The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are > CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil. > The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.
> Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the > connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. When I > come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the > cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to > where the outer insulation's been cut away?
You don't make it clear whether the connector you're trying to refit is a belling lee or an F connector. Whichever one it is, have a look at the same connector on another cable and do it like this. Saying that though, if it fell out when you pulled it, it wasn't done properly in the first place.
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:41:20 +0000, Mike Tomlinson <m...@jasper.org.uk> wrote: snipped >>
>In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both >carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. At least I can plug either >into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. (Why >would someone have two aerials into one room?) One is at one end of the >bay, the other's at t'other.
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I have a bay window and the TV aerial comes in at one side and the sat cable comes in the other side so I have one cable or t'other cable trailing across the floor but even if they both came in the one side moving the TV to the other side of the room would mean a cable trailing across so maybe that's why the previous occupants dit it this way . My intention is to get /build some form of trunking around the floor of the bay to take the cables and hide them .
Mike Tomlinson wrote: > I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. At the time of looking > around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through > (well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about > them. They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors > and are, of course, all unlabelled.
> In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both > carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. At least I can plug either > into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. (Why > would someone have two aerials into one room?) One is at one end of the > bay, the other's at t'other.
> I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. Will need a > pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is > built-up on a high surface.
> The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are > CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil. > The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.
> Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the > connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. When I > come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the > cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to > where the outer insulation's been cut away?
Generally speaking F types are screwed onto the whole cable plus the folded back braid.
A bit of Vaseline or silicon grease helps if they're tight.
> Mike Tomlinson wrote: >> I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. At the time of looking >> around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through >> (well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about >> them. They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors >> and are, of course, all unlabelled.
>> In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both >> carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. At least I can plug either >> into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. (Why >> would someone have two aerials into one room?) One is at one end of the >> bay, the other's at t'other.
>> I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. Will need a >> pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is >> built-up on a high surface.
>> The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are >> CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil. >> The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.
>> Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the >> connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. When I >> come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the >> cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to >> where the outer insulation's been cut away?
> Generally speaking F types are screwed onto the whole cable plus the > folded back braid.
> A bit of Vaseline or silicon grease helps if they're tight.
> Guy
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I think the type of connector which you have is a one piece screw on co ax plug? We use these all the time as they make a good contact and dont come off easily. (They are not that common though).
You need to treat them like F plugs. Strip cable as usual. Fold the braiding back along over the outer of the cable. Don't forget to Kink the inner wire a bit so it makes good contact in the inside of the centre pin and then screw it on firmly. Of course it is better to touch the tip of the pin and inner wire with solder afterwards but, to be honest there is seldom time and kinking the inner wire makes an adequate job.
Bu the way, it may be that the other cable is FM or DAB radio. Quite often, if you are in a good reception area they both appear ok for TV but one is really much better than the other. Have you got TV and Radio aerials on the roof?
>"Bigguy" <bigguy@under_radar.com> wrote in message >news:7lntp8F3ene45U2@mid.individual.net... >> Mike Tomlinson wrote: >>> I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. At the time of looking >>> around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through >>> (well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about >>> them. They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors >>> and are, of course, all unlabelled.
>>> In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both >>> carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. At least I can plug either >>> into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. (Why >>> would someone have two aerials into one room?) One is at one end of the >>> bay, the other's at t'other.
>>> I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. Will need a >>> pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is >>> built-up on a high surface.
>>> The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are >>> CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil. >>> The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.
>>> Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the >>> connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. When I >>> come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the >>> cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to >>> where the outer insulation's been cut away?
>> Generally speaking F types are screwed onto the whole cable plus the >>folded back braid.
>> A bit of Vaseline or silicon grease helps if they're tight.
> I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. At the time of looking > around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through > (well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about > them. They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors > and are, of course, all unlabelled.
> In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both > carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. At least I can plug either > into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. (Why > would someone have two aerials into one room?) One is at one end of the > bay, the other's at t'other.
> I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. Will need a > pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is > built-up on a high surface.
> The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are > CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil. > The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.
> Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the > connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. When I > come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the > cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to > where the outer insulation's been cut away?
Belling Lee connectors dont normally screw onto the cable, so I wonder just what youve got. Post a pic?
>On Nov 8, 10:41 am, Mike Tomlinson <m...@jasper.org.uk> wrote: >> I moved into this flat a couple of years ago. At the time of looking >> around pre-purchase I noted the amount of cables coming in through >> (well, past) the windows but forgot to ask the previous occupant about >> them. They're terminated in a mixture of Belling-Lee and F connectors >> and are, of course, all unlabelled.
>> In the bedroom I have two downleads ending in Belling-Lee which both >> carry what seems to be a good aerial signal. At least I can plug either >> into a STB and get a good signal and all the muxes and channels. (Why >> would someone have two aerials into one room?) One is at one end of the >> bay, the other's at t'other.
>> I haven't yet gone out to look at the aerials on the roof. Will need a >> pair of binocs, I think - they're on a tall Victorian semi which is >> built-up on a high surface.
>> The installation appears to be of good workmanship - the downleads are >> CT100 cable (marked "Eagle 100U coaxial cable") with braid and foil. >> The cables are terminated in metal screw-on Belling-Lee connectors.
>> Unfortunately I made a a mistake in tugging on the cable instead of the >> connector and predictably it pulled out of the connector body. When I >> come to re-fit it, is it usual to screw the connector body onto the >> cable outer, or just on the inner plastic core/foil/braid mix up to >> where the outer insulation's been cut away?
>Belling Lee connectors dont normally screw onto the cable, so I wonder >just what youve got. Post a pic?
In article <0227452f-14fa-4996-85a9-f774422c4...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroup s.com>, widgitt <prat...@btinternet.com> writes
>I think the type of connector which you have is a one piece screw on >co ax plug?
Yes.
>We use these all the time as they make a good contact and dont come >off easily.
This one did, but it wasn't screwed right onto the outer insulation.
>You need to treat them like F plugs. Strip cable as usual. Fold the >braiding back along over the outer of the cable. Don't forget to Kink >the inner wire a bit so it makes good contact in the inside of the >centre pin and then screw it on firmly. Of course it is better to >touch the tip of the pin and inner wire with solder afterwards but, to >be honest there is seldom time and kinking the inner wire makes an >adequate job.
In article <734a7535-d23b-4cd0-8eeb-6923d4a0a...@j4g2000yqe.googlegroups .com>, widgitt <prat...@btinternet.com> writes
>Bu the way, it may be that the other cable is FM or DAB radio. Quite >often, if you are in a good reception area they both appear ok for TV >but one is really much better than the other.
Ah, thanks.
> Have you got TV and >Radio aerials on the roof?
Don't know. They are very high up and there's no room to see from a distance (unless I want to get wet!) Was going to wander out with a pair of binocs today but decided staying in and drinking beer was a more profitable use of my time. :)
In article <1tTuv$HQBq9KF...@jasper.org.uk>, Mike Tomlinson <m...@jasper.org.uk> writes
>Why >would someone have two aerials into one room?
You might well ask that, but when I moved into my current house two years ago the lounge had:
8 Belling Lee points - all with good analogue & digital signals 3 F-type points - one actually connected to the dish, one to Virgin cable and the other feeds into the loft, apparently to be linked to another F-type in one of the bedrooms. 5 double power outlets 0 Telephone sockets
During redecorating this summer I found another active terrestrial TV point - bringing the total to 9 - and a telephone point, hidden behind an access panel to a soil pipe.
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|>Don't know. They are very high up and there's no room to see from a distance (unless I want to get wet!) Was going to wander out with a pair of binocs today but decided staying in and drinking beer was a more profitable use of my time. :)
In article <haddf5t8s7oaa3avds12t116qpkvf48...@4ax.com>, Usenet Nutter <individual...@takeoutmyteethgmail.com> writes
>My intention is to get /build some form of trunking around the floor >of the bay to take the cables and hide them .
Fortunately the bigger bundle comes in on the side where I have the telly. The other cable I'll hide in a similar fashion to yours - there's a rad on that wall so it won't e too visible.
On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:59:48 +0000, Mike Tomlinson wrote: >> Why does anyone need 12 TV points in a single room? ;-)
> God knows, but the phrase 'get a life' has never seemed more apposite.
Depends on how many sources are in that room and how many of those are put into the distribution system to be watchable else where in the house.
Couple of sat boxes (watch different sat channels in different places), DVD, BluRay, PVR, there's 5 plus incoming aerial(s) and connections from the dish makes at least 8...
Though I got the impression that these 12 sockets were spread around the room rather than in a "media center" corner. In which case built in flexabilty for when The Powers can't decide on or want to change the room layout. Far easier to flood the place with cable/outlets when doing a major refurb than have to do it afterwards when the decorations are finished. 4 sockets to each corner doesn't seem excessive to me but is 16 outlets in total...
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>"Roger" (who previously posted as "Clive"), the Tiscali Idiot, is now >posting as "David Perry". Killfiles at the ready...
Tut tut, how inconsiderate.
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