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er...@blueyonder.co.uk  
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 More options 7 Nov, 18:04
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From: er...@blueyonder.co.uk
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:04:35 GMT
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 18:04
Subject: Just passing by IdealWorld tv
and came across a "ceramic" panel heater.

The 2kw one was a bargain at £1000, taking into account the free
wireless control box supplied.

Calor???? or some such make.

Have these people gone completely into the Twilight Zone or have I
missed some vital point of new technology?

It looked like a fairly standard wall panel heater.

Made the £14 blower fires at B&Q look enticing.


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Andy Burns  
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 More options 7 Nov, 18:21
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From: Andy Burns <usenet.aug2...@adslpipe.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:21:22 +0000
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Subject: Re: Just passing by IdealWorld tv
On 07/11/09 18:04, er...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

> The 2kw one was a bargain at £1000

Actually £1,005.93 for two, but still!

<http://www.idealworld.tv/Calortec_2000W_Ceramic_Electric_Radiator_Mul...>


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Ash  
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 More options 7 Nov, 18:40
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From: "Ash" <B...@bobsworld.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:40:42 -0000
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 18:40
Subject: Re: Just passing by IdealWorld tv

"Andy Burns" <usenet.aug2...@adslpipe.co.uk> wrote in message

news:u9-dnS8EXL0-J2jXnZ2dnUVZ8iednZ2d@brightview.co.uk...

> On 07/11/09 18:04, er...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

>> The 2kw one was a bargain at £1000

> Actually £1,005.93 for two, but still!

> <http://www.idealworld.tv/Calortec_2000W_Ceramic_Electric_Radiator_Mul...>

You forgot to mention that they also look pretty ugly ! I think if I had a
choice between these heaters and putting another jumper on I'd go with the
latter

Ash


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The Wanderer  
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 More options 7 Nov, 18:41
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From: The Wanderer <the.wande...@gmx.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:41:45 +0000
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 18:41
Subject: Re: Just passing by IdealWorld tv

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:21:22 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:
> On 07/11/09 18:04, er...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

>> The 2kw one was a bargain at £1000

> Actually £1,005.93 for two, but still!

> <http://www.idealworld.tv/Calortec_2000W_Ceramic_Electric_Radiator_Mul...>

Aye, and there are people who'll buy the things.

--
The Wanderer

Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid;
humans are incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant;
together they are powerful beyond imagination. — Albert Einstein


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geoff  
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 More options 7 Nov, 18:59
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From: geoff <ra...@kateda.org>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:59:33 +0000
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 18:59
Subject: Re: Just passing by IdealWorld tv
In message <u9-dnS8EXL0-J2jXnZ2dnUVZ8iedn...@brightview.co.uk>, Andy
Burns <usenet.aug2...@adslpipe.co.uk> writes

>On 07/11/09 18:04, er...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

>> The 2kw one was a bargain at £1000

>Actually £1,005.93 for two, but still!

><http://www.idealworld.tv/Calortec_2000W_Ceramic_Electric_Radiator_Multi
>buy_With_Bonus_Wireless_Control_Unit_156199.aspx?fh_location=//idealworl
>d/en_GB>

But they do have a ceramic hart

wozzat then, a model of a deer stuck to the top ?

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Owain  
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 More options 7 Nov, 19:06
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From: Owain <spuorgelg...@gowanhill.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:06:57 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 19:06
Subject: Re: Just passing by IdealWorld tv
On 7 Nov, 18:21, Andy Burns wrote:

> > The 2kw one was a bargain at £1000
> Actually £1,005.93 for two, but still!
> <http://www.idealworld.tv/Calortec_2000W_Ceramic_Electric_Radiator_Mul...>

Bargain, they're £574.99 each in Argos and you have to buy 3 to get
the programmer.

Owain


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Simon C.  
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 More options 7 Nov, 19:21
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From: Simon C. <Si...@simon.com.>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:21:36 +0000
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 19:21
Subject: Re: Just passing by IdealWorld tv
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:06:57 -0800 (PST), Owain

<spuorgelg...@gowanhill.com> wrote:
>On 7 Nov, 18:21, Andy Burns wrote:
>> > The 2kw one was a bargain at £1000
>> Actually £1,005.93 for two, but still!
>> <http://www.idealworld.tv/Calortec_2000W_Ceramic_Electric_Radiator_Mul...>

>Bargain, they're £574.99 each in Argos and you have to buy 3 to get
>the programmer.

Crikey, you're serious too, just checked! Just what is it about these
electric radiators that could possibly justify the price?

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Owain  
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 More options 7 Nov, 19:43
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From: Owain <spuorgelg...@gowanhill.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:43:51 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 19:43
Subject: Re: Just passing by IdealWorld tv
On 7 Nov, 19:21, Simon C. wrote:

> Crikey, you're serious too, just checked! Just what is it about these
> electric radiators that could possibly justify the price?

According to the Argos cat it gives you all the advantages of central
heating at half the price of having a gas boiler and rads put in.

Obviously plugging two or three (or more) of these into an already
overloaded whole-house ring is perfectly sensible.

Personally I prefer a nice bowl fire to warm the tootsies whilst
listening to the radio-gram.

Owain


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Steve Walker  
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 More options 7 Nov, 21:38
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From: "Steve Walker" <spam-t...@beeb.net>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:38:48 -0000
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 21:38
Subject: Re: Just passing by IdealWorld tv

Andy Burns wrote:
> On 07/11/09 18:04, er...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

>> The 2kw one was a bargain at £1000

> Actually £1,005.93 for two, but still!

> <http://www.idealworld.tv/Calortec_2000W_Ceramic_Electric_Radiator_Mul...>

An outrageous scam on the naive or elderly.

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John Rumm  
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 More options 8 Nov, 07:14
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From: John Rumm <see.my.signat...@nowhere.null>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:14:24 +0000
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 07:14
Subject: Re: Just passing by IdealWorld tv

Simon C. wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:06:57 -0800 (PST), Owain
> <spuorgelg...@gowanhill.com> wrote:

>> On 7 Nov, 18:21, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>> The 2kw one was a bargain at £1000
>>> Actually £1,005.93 for two, but still!
>>> <http://www.idealworld.tv/Calortec_2000W_Ceramic_Electric_Radiator_Mul...>
>> Bargain, they're £574.99 each in Argos and you have to buy 3 to get
>> the programmer.

> Crikey, you're serious too, just checked! Just what is it about these
> electric radiators that could possibly justify the price?

Their claims see dubious at best:

# Heats when, where and how you want (heats a room not a house)

as would any plug in heater at a tenth the price

# Central heating without pipes or boiler

Central implies a central heat source - these don't have one - so false.

# Easy to use – just plug in and heat!

I will give them that.

# Easy to install
# Low installation costs (save up to 100%)

We seem to be repeating the last point a few more times.

# No maintenance
# No chimney, no noise, no dust, no odour

fair enough

# Economical, comfortable and easy to use - unique concept

Hmm, how do they figure that? Compared to gas, no, compared to economy
7/10 storage heating, no. Plug in heaters a unique concept? I expect
finding evidence to refute that would be hard.

# Comfortable warmth distribution

Only heating one room, with no circulation fan... better than any other
static convector how exactly?

# Output 100% (save up to 40% on your heating bill)

Ewww 100% go with that, save 40%, I would like to see the justification
for that.

# Safety: no combustion, no oxygen usage, no frozen pipes, no fumes, no
deflagration danger

Clutching at straws - what are they comparing it to?

# Gentle warmth - even thermo spread (no cold or hot zones)

Repeat of previous point

# Perfect regulation of temperature (0,10°C precise)

But there is only one stat for two heaters in different rooms. How is
that going to work.

# Programmable with a radio frequency program unit PROGRAMATEX

Sounds high tech - or like any prog stat, take your pick!

# Functions as central heating (individual or modular in use)

or not.

# Ideal product for refurbishing and conservatories

Why?

# 2 years guarantee on the electric components

Coo eee

# 10 years guarantee on the radiator and the radiator c

Is the core not part of the rad? Is that not an electrical component?

Sounds like ASA complaint fodder....

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Peter Parry  
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 More options 8 Nov, 11:43
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From: Peter Parry <pe...@wpp.ltd.uk>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:43:01 +0000
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Subject: Re: Just passing by IdealWorld tv

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:59:33 +0000, geoff <ra...@kateda.org> wrote:

>But they do have a ceramic hart

And protect you from deflagration.

You can also "save up to 100% of installation costs" when you don't
install it.

It also has  "Output 100% (save up to 40% on your heating bill)"


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The Medway Handyman  
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 More options 8 Nov, 17:08
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From: "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...@nospamblueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:08:34 GMT
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 17:08
Subject: Re: Just passing by IdealWorld tv

No one has written a review yet John :-)

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www.medwayhandyman.co.uk


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Grimly Curmudgeon  
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 More options 11 Nov, 15:00
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From: Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REM...@REMOVEgmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:00:47 +0000
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Subject: Re: Just passing by IdealWorld tv
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Steve Walker" <spam-t...@beeb.net>
saying something like:

>Andy Burns wrote:
>> On 07/11/09 18:04, er...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

>>> The 2kw one was a bargain at £1000

>> Actually £1,005.93 for two, but still!

>> <http://www.idealworld.tv/Calortec_2000W_Ceramic_Electric_Radiator_Mul...>

>An outrageous scam on the naive or elderly.

Seems to have gone, now.

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