I'm installing a new basin/mixer in my downstairs cloakroom (where the old basin had two separate taps). Now as the cold is fed by the rising main, and the hot by the tank in the loft I have a pressure imbalance to cope with. I believe this requires a pressure reducer valve on the cold feed. I also require each feed to have a single check valve to prevent cross flow between hot water and rising main. Then I also wanted to add a service valve to each feed so I can turn off the water to the basin.
The pipes come through the wall from the kitchen behind kitchen cabinets, and I don't have a lot of room to install all this stuff below the basin. Unfortunately the mixer tap doesn't have built in service valves. Are there any clever fittings that combine say the single check valve with a service valve, or a pressure reducer with a check valve and service valve ? Tony
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:25:40 -0000, TonyB wrote: > I also require each feed to have a single check valve to prevent cross > flow between hot water and rising main.
Are you sure? If the "mixer" doesn't mix the waters until they exit the spout then you don't do you? Check the design of your mixer tap.
In article <OfBIm.373859$uD.327...@en-nntp-09.am2.easynews.com>, TonyB <to...@benhamhouse.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm installing a new basin/mixer in my downstairs cloakroom (where the > old basin had two separate taps). Now as the cold is fed by the rising > main, and the hot by the tank in the loft I have a pressure imbalance to > cope with. I believe this requires a pressure reducer valve on the cold > feed.
I did a similar thing in the kitchen with a posh lever arm mixer. Only to discover it was really intended for high pressure only. As most of these things are these days. So have you actually tried yours yet? I ended up adding a pump to the hot rather than reducing the cold flow.
> I also require each feed to have a single check valve to prevent > cross flow between hot water and rising main.
Are you sure you need this?
> Then I also wanted to add > a service valve to each feed so I can turn off the water to the basin.
Where flow is a problem as likely with the hot, best to use full bore valves.
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> In article <OfBIm.373859$uD.327...@en-nntp-09.am2.easynews.com>, > TonyB <to...@benhamhouse.co.uk> wrote: >> I'm installing a new basin/mixer in my downstairs cloakroom (where the >> old basin had two separate taps). Now as the cold is fed by the rising >> main, and the hot by the tank in the loft I have a pressure imbalance to >> cope with. I believe this requires a pressure reducer valve on the cold >> feed.
> I did a similar thing in the kitchen with a posh lever arm mixer. Only to > discover it was really intended for high pressure only. As most of these > things are these days. So have you actually tried yours yet? I ended up > adding a pump to the hot rather than reducing the cold flow.
I hope not, as the hot flows pretty well, and drives mixer taps in the kitchen with no problem.
>> I also require each feed to have a single check valve to prevent >> cross flow between hot water and rising main.
> Are you sure you need this?
According to the tap manufacturer, apparently I do ? I guess it depends on the mixer design.
>> Then I also wanted to add >> a service valve to each feed so I can turn off the water to the basin.
> Where flow is a problem as likely with the hot, best to use full bore > valves.
OK. The tank is 2 floors up in the loft, so flow rate isn't bad.....
> In article <OfBIm.373859$uD.327...@en-nntp-09.am2.easynews.com>, > TonyB <to...@benhamhouse.co.uk> wrote: >> I'm installing a new basin/mixer in my downstairs cloakroom (where the >> old basin had two separate taps). Now as the cold is fed by the rising >> main, and the hot by the tank in the loft I have a pressure imbalance to >> cope with. I believe this requires a pressure reducer valve on the cold >> feed.
> I did a similar thing in the kitchen with a posh lever arm mixer. Only to > discover it was really intended for high pressure only. As most of these > things are these days. So have you actually tried yours yet? I ended up > adding a pump to the hot rather than reducing the cold flow.
In article <hd3il3$kt...@news.eternal-september.org>, Doctor Drivel <killef...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> "Dave Plowman (News)" <d...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message > news:50b5af9049dave@davenoise.co.uk... > > In article <OfBIm.373859$uD.327...@en-nntp-09.am2.easynews.com>, > > TonyB <to...@benhamhouse.co.uk> wrote: > >> I'm installing a new basin/mixer in my downstairs cloakroom (where > >> the old basin had two separate taps). Now as the cold is fed by the > >> rising main, and the hot by the tank in the loft I have a pressure > >> imbalance to cope with. I believe this requires a pressure reducer > >> valve on the cold feed.
> > I did a similar thing in the kitchen with a posh lever arm mixer. Only > > to discover it was really intended for high pressure only. As most of > > these things are these days. So have you actually tried yours yet? I > > ended up adding a pump to the hot rather than reducing the cold flow. > Yep. A pump for one tap. Amazing.
It is, isn't it? If you need instructions on how to fit one feel free to ask.
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> In article <hd3il3$kt...@news.eternal-september.org>, > Doctor Drivel <killef...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> "Dave Plowman (News)" <d...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:50b5af9049dave@davenoise.co.uk... >> > In article <OfBIm.373859$uD.327...@en-nntp-09.am2.easynews.com>, >> > TonyB <to...@benhamhouse.co.uk> wrote: >> >> I'm installing a new basin/mixer in my downstairs cloakroom (where >> >> the old basin had two separate taps). Now as the cold is fed by the >> >> rising main, and the hot by the tank in the loft I have a pressure >> >> imbalance to cope with. I believe this requires a pressure reducer >> >> valve on the cold feed.
>> > I did a similar thing in the kitchen with a posh lever arm mixer. Only >> > to discover it was really intended for high pressure only. As most of >> > these things are these days. So have you actually tried yours yet? I >> > ended up adding a pump to the hot rather than reducing the cold flow.
>> Yep. A pump for one tap. Amazing.
> It is, isn't it? If you need instructions on how to fit one feel free to > ask.
I would never be so dumb as to fit a pump on one tap, so do not need your instructions.
In article <hd4upn$f2...@news.eternal-september.org>, Doctor Drivel <killef...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> Yep. A pump for one tap. Amazing.
> > It is, isn't it? If you need instructions on how to fit one feel free > > to ask. > I would never be so dumb as to fit a pump on one tap, so do not need > your instructions.
You obviously don't know anything about 'designer' mixers which are only for high pressure supplies, then. But if you ask nicely I'll help you out.
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In article <hd7nfi$9o...@news.eternal-september.org>, Doctor Drivel <killef...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> "Dave Plowman (News)" <d...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message > news:50b6b81660dave@davenoise.co.uk... > > In article <hd4upn$f2...@news.eternal-september.org>, > > Doctor Drivel <killef...@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> >> Yep. A pump for one tap. Amazing.
> >> > It is, isn't it? If you need instructions on how to fit one feel free > >> > to ask.
> >> I would never be so dumb as to fit a pump on one tap, so do not need > >> your instructions.
> > You > Please eff off you are a total plantpot.
Very sad - I offer to help you and get an insult instead. Typical of a know it all amateur.
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> In article <hd7nfi$9o...@news.eternal-september.org>, > Doctor Drivel <killef...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> "Dave Plowman (News)" <d...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:50b6b81660dave@davenoise.co.uk... >> > In article <hd4upn$f2...@news.eternal-september.org>, >> > Doctor Drivel <killef...@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >> >> Yep. A pump for one tap. Amazing.
>> >> > It is, isn't it? If you need instructions on how to fit one feel >> >> > free >> >> > to ask.
>> >> I would never be so dumb as to fit a pump on one tap, so do not need >> >> your instructions.
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel" <killef...@invalid.invalid> saying something like:
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the > drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel" > <killef...@invalid.invalid> saying something like:
In article <6f6gf5hrosmgn3stlr6e07nd41ij6ve...@4ax.com>, Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REM...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the > drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel" > <killef...@invalid.invalid> saying something like:
> >>> Please eff off you are a total plantpot.
> >> Very sad
> >Please eff off you are a total plantpot. > Ah, you're back.
And the treatment obviously failed again.
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Dave Plowman d...@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound.
> "Grimly Curmudgeon" <grimly4REM...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message > news:6f6gf5hrosmgn3stlr6e07nd41ij6vejgh@4ax.com... >> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the >> drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel" >> <killef...@invalid.invalid> saying something like:
In message <6f6gf5hrosmgn3stlr6e07nd41ij6ve...@4ax.com>, Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REM...@REMOVEgmail.com> writes
>We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the >drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel" ><killef...@invalid.invalid> saying something like:
>>>> Please eff off you are a total plantpot.
>>> Very sad
>>Please eff off you are a total plantpot.
>Ah, you're back.
I think "escaped" was the word you were looking for
> In message <6f6gf5hrosmgn3stlr6e07nd41ij6ve...@4ax.com>, Grimly Curmudgeon > <grimly4REM...@REMOVEgmail.com> writes >>We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the >>drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel" >><killef...@invalid.invalid> saying something like:
>>>>> Please eff off you are a total plantpot.
>>>> Very sad
>>>Please eff off you are a total plantpot.
>>Ah, you're back.
> I think
Maxie! Do not think! It is not good for you at all. Remember the voices the last time you did this.
> In article <6f6gf5hrosmgn3stlr6e07nd41ij6ve...@4ax.com>, > Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REM...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote: >> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the >> drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel" >> <killef...@invalid.invalid> saying something like:
>"geoff" <ra...@kateda.org> wrote in message >news:mByqGJGvKH+KFwXU@demon.co.uk... >> In message <6f6gf5hrosmgn3stlr6e07nd41ij6ve...@4ax.com>, Grimly >>Curmudgeon <grimly4REM...@REMOVEgmail.com> writes >>>We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the >>>drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel" >>><killef...@invalid.invalid> saying something like:
>>>>>> Please eff off you are a total plantpot.
>>>>> Very sad
>>>>Please eff off you are a total plantpot.
>>>Ah, you're back.
>> I think
>Maxie! Do not think! It is not good for you at all. Remember the >voices the last time you did this.
Ah - so that's what they took you in for this time
I would have thought that you shouldn't have these problems after they fried your frontal lobes
Trepanning is your next step - let the evil sprits out
> In message <hdach4$39...@news.eternal-september.org>, Doctor Drivel > <killef...@invalid.invalid> writes
>>"geoff" <ra...@kateda.org> wrote in message >>news:mByqGJGvKH+KFwXU@demon.co.uk... >>> In message <6f6gf5hrosmgn3stlr6e07nd41ij6ve...@4ax.com>, Grimly >>> Curmudgeon <grimly4REM...@REMOVEgmail.com> writes >>>>We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the >>>>drugs began to take hold. I remember "Doctor Drivel" >>>><killef...@invalid.invalid> saying something like:
>>>>>>> Please eff off you are a total plantpot.
>>>>>> Very sad
>>>>>Please eff off you are a total plantpot.
>>>>Ah, you're back.
>>> I think
>>Maxie! Do not think! It is not good for you at all. Remember the voices >>the last time you did this.
> Ah - so that's what they took you in for this time
> I would have thought that you shouldn't have these problems after they > fried your frontal lobes
> Trepanning is your next step - let the evil sprits out
Cor Maxie! You know all these things. Fantastic! What a man. What a man. So, Maxie have you stopped swearing to people in the street yet?
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