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zoara  
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 More options 15 Oct, 13:22
Newsgroups: uk.comp.sys.mac
From: m...@privacy.net (zoara)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:22:21 +0100
Local: Wed 15 Oct 2008 13:22
Subject: Why glass?

What are the benefits of having a glass trackpad? I can't work it out.

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Jaimie Vandenbergh  
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 More options 15 Oct, 13:27
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From: Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org>
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:27:30 +0100
Local: Wed 15 Oct 2008 13:27
Subject: Re: Why glass?

On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:22:21 +0100, m...@privacy.net (zoara) wrote:

>What are the benefits of having a glass trackpad? I can't work it out.

Rigidity (for the button press) and crossover technology (thus cost
savings) for multitouch with the iPhone/iPod Touch. I reckon.

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Jim  
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 More options 15 Oct, 13:32
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From: Jim <j...@magrathea.plus.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:32:58 +0100
Local: Wed 15 Oct 2008 13:32
Subject: Re: Why glass?
On 2008-10-15, zoara <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

> What are the benefits of having a glass trackpad? I can't work it out.

It's shiny. Shiny is good, just ask most women.

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Sak Wathanasin  
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 More options 15 Oct, 13:38
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From: Sak Wathanasin <s...@nan.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 05:38:26 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed 15 Oct 2008 13:38
Subject: Re: Why glass?
On 15 Oct, 13:27, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org>
wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:22:21 +0100, m...@privacy.net (zoara) wrote:

> >What are the benefits of having a glass trackpad? I can't work it out.

> Rigidity (for the button press) and crossover technology (thus cost
> savings) for multitouch with the iPhone/iPod Touch. I reckon.

Maybe it's just me but one of the problems I have with the iPhone UI
is that it sometimes interprets the start of a drag/scroll as a click.
E.g. I want to scroll the list of folders in Mail, but instead it
selects the folder that my finger happens to land on and moves the
mail into the wrong folder. May not be such a problem on the Mac where
there is well-defined area for scrolling, but the buttton-less
trackpad could be a mixed blessing.

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Steve Firth  
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 More options 15 Oct, 13:56
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From: %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:56:05 +0100
Local: Wed 15 Oct 2008 13:56
Subject: Re: Why glass?

zoara <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> What are the benefits of having a glass trackpad? I can't work it out.

Hopfully it won't wear as quickly as the trackpad has worn on my MBP.
Only a couple of years old but it already has a shiny patch in the
middle.

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Jaimie Vandenbergh  
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 More options 15 Oct, 14:13
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From: Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org>
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:13:45 +0100
Local: Wed 15 Oct 2008 14:13
Subject: Re: Why glass?
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:32:58 +0100, Jim <j...@magrathea.plus.com>
wrote:

>On 2008-10-15, zoara <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>> What are the benefits of having a glass trackpad? I can't work it out.

>It's shiny. Shiny is good, just ask most women.

Then why do they spend so much on foundation, and laugh and point at
my head?

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Jaimie Vandenbergh  
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 More options 15 Oct, 14:23
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From: Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org>
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:23:33 +0100
Local: Wed 15 Oct 2008 14:23
Subject: Re: Why glass?
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 05:38:26 -0700 (PDT), Sak Wathanasin

<s...@nan.co.uk> wrote:
>On 15 Oct, 13:27, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org>
>wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:22:21 +0100, m...@privacy.net (zoara) wrote:

>> >What are the benefits of having a glass trackpad? I can't work it out.

>> Rigidity (for the button press) and crossover technology (thus cost
>> savings) for multitouch with the iPhone/iPod Touch. I reckon.

>Maybe it's just me but one of the problems I have with the iPhone UI
>is that it sometimes interprets the start of a drag/scroll as a click.

I never get that. Do you have guitar-player's fingernails? They can
cause bounce.

> but the buttton-less
>trackpad could be a mixed blessing.

I'm thinking the same. On the MB and Air I keep my thumb over the
button to press it. I always turn tap-trackpad-to-click off. Clicking
the whole trackpad with an index finger would take some retraining,
and (depending on how hard you need to push) may be as bad as
tap-to-click.

Using a thumb to press at the bottom of the trackpad will presumably
perturb the mouse cursor. Hmm. Maybe it's clever enough not to.

If anyone meets one, would they please try it?

        Cheers - Jaimie
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Jaimie Vandenbergh  
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 More options 15 Oct, 14:25
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From: Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org>
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:25:03 +0100
Local: Wed 15 Oct 2008 14:25
Subject: Re: Why glass?
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:56:05 +0100, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)
wrote:

>zoara <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>> What are the benefits of having a glass trackpad? I can't work it out.

>Hopfully it won't wear as quickly as the trackpad has worn on my MBP.
>Only a couple of years old but it already has a shiny patch in the
>middle.

The MBs do the same. It's barely visible on whitebooks, but really so
on black ones. From what I've seen, silver is in between.

Giving them a good scrubbing with alcohol wipes or similar does help a
lot, at least in the early stages.

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 More options 15 Oct, 14:36
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From: Jim <j...@magrathea.plus.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:36:54 +0100
Local: Wed 15 Oct 2008 14:36
Subject: Re: Why glass?
On 2008-10-15, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:32:58 +0100, Jim <j...@magrathea.plus.com>
> wrote:

>>On 2008-10-15, zoara <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>>> What are the benefits of having a glass trackpad? I can't work it out.

>>It's shiny. Shiny is good, just ask most women.

> Then why do they spend so much on foundation, and laugh and point at
> my head?

Heh.

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Flavio Matani  
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 More options 15 Oct, 18:22
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From: flavio_mataniTAKETHISBIT...@mac.com (Flavio Matani)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:22:44 +0100
Local: Wed 15 Oct 2008 18:22
Subject: Re: Why glass?

I had a play today at a couple of MBs at the Regent St Store and was
surprised. The 'button' on (or, rather, 'in')  the glass trackpad has
quite a positive feel when you click and I didn't experience it
perturbing the cursor; the trackpad  as a cursor controler didn't
otherwise feel different at all.

I was using the thumb to 'press the button' as I always do, btw.

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zoara  
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 More options 15 Oct, 18:26
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From: m...@privacy.net (zoara)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:26:13 +0100
Local: Wed 15 Oct 2008 18:26
Subject: Re: Why glass?

Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:22:21 +0100, m...@privacy.net (zoara) wrote:

> >What are the benefits of having a glass trackpad? I can't work it out.

> Rigidity (for the button press) and crossover technology (thus cost
> savings) for multitouch with the iPhone/iPod Touch. I reckon.

The first one I can see, though surely there are better materials to
use? Maybe I'm just thrown because I always thought of glass being
chosen for its transparency and not its rigidity.

The second one? Hmmm. Don't the older MacBook[Pro]s use the same
technology (ie capacitive sensing) just under a different material? What
I mean is, isn't all the technology already shared, except for the layer
on the top?

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 More options 15 Oct, 18:26
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From: m...@privacy.net (zoara)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:26:12 +0100
Local: Wed 15 Oct 2008 18:26
Subject: Re: Why glass?

Jim <j...@magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
> On 2008-10-15, zoara <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

> > What are the benefits of having a glass trackpad? I can't work it out.

> It's shiny.

Well, it's *not* really - it looks the same. It may be shiny on the
inside, but is that a benefit when you can't actually see it?

> Shiny is good, just ask most women.

I'll ask them about the shiny on the inside thing too, just to clarify
this important matter.

        -z-

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