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Re: Swine Flu - Unrestricted live movements of pigs to continue

pat.gardi...@removeremovelive.co.uk (Pat Gardiner) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 11:40:46 UT

I would be a bit careful about "thread drift" as you call it.
It is not smart and the motives of those involved are suspect.
There are some very bright people with authority and an axe to grind
using ukba as a prime source.

Re: The UK's Veterinaryian's Oath

pat.gardi...@removeremovelive.co.uk (Pat Gardiner) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 11:15:27 UT

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:44:58 -0800 (PST), Burkie <Burki...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Thanks for that thought.
It is surprisingly difficult to find the full wording of the oath
taken by British vets. I can't be bothered with the puff and nonsense
of a sub-profession ripe for a thorough investigation and purge to

Re: discernihg choice

o...@mailcatch.com (Oz) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 09:36:44 UT

Buddenbrooks <knightstemp...@budweiser.com> writes
Indeed, more for some people than others.
Absolutely. Regrettably not everyone, I have a problem with such
systems, they niggle away at me.
Indeed, believing a model does not involve understanding anything.
Quite. One merely needs to say 'unidentified but real dangers'.

Re: discernihg choice

knightstemp...@budweiser.com (Buddenbrooks) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 07:57:35 UT

>>
OK that shows perfection, but not how it got there.

Re: discernihg choice

malc...@indaal.demon.co.uk (Malcolm) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 07:34:25 UT

In article <yFBT5HB7hm9KF...@OzHome.com>, Oz <O...@mailcatch.com> writes
Surely the answer to someone who claims that there are no missing links
is to tell them to look in a mirror!

Re: discernihg choice

knightstemp...@budweiser.com (Buddenbrooks) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 06:57:36 UT

>
The human mind seems to be quite capable of believing two quite exclusive
truths.
Most of us model the behavior of the parts of the world we interact with and
as long as the model works we accept it.
Two different facets can have two models which work over the area of
functional need, but contain mutual inconsistencies.

Re: discernihg choice

o...@mailcatch.com (Oz) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 06:43:07 UT

Steve B <st...@wayback.org.uk> writes
No, but sadly they often need large grants to keep their department in
wages. This can cause them to 'exaggerate the value of their research',
to put it politely. This is particularly true of anything which has a
public exposure. BSE was a glaring example of many.

Re: Swine Flu - Unrestricted live movements of pigs to continue

o...@mailcatch.com (Oz) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 06:36:31 UT

Steve B <st...@wayback.org.uk> writes
Here too.
Yes, not quite what it could have been but they were never quite as good
live as reports (possibly chemically modified) would have them.

Re: Swine Flu - Unrestricted live movements of pigs to continue

st...@wayback.org.uk (Steve B) — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 22:53:30 UT

In article <moNGysALvL9KF...@OzHome.com>, O...@mailcatch.com says...
very good, unfortunately I only caught the end of it (on BBC4 in this neck of
the woods). Happily, I did see the Cream reunion one that was on a little
while back :)

Re: discernihg choice

st...@wayback.org.uk (Steve B) — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 22:53:20 UT

In article <4af4817a$0$2527$da0fe...@news .zen.co.uk>,
oldcod...@anyoldwhere.net says...
to be fair, scientists don't have the disadvantage of having to persuade the
electorate to keep them in office. OTOH, I don't think it a good thing if
politicians have too much say in the appointment of scientists.

Re: Swine Flu - Unrestricted live movements of pigs to continue

greyma...@mail.com — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 19:50:07 UT

Claptom?. Person with undiscriminating sexual tastes?

The UK's Veterinaryian's Oath

burki...@yahoo.com (Burkie) — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 19:44:58 UT

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The Hippocratic Oath of Doctors

burki...@yahoo.com (Burkie) — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 19:42:07 UT

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