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Alex Hough  
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From: Alex Hough <r.a.ho...@googlemail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:04:30 +0000
Local: Thurs 5 Nov 2009 17:04
Subject: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary

Hello there,

I've changed the ratings array in the plugin
I didn't know how to change it in a zzConfigTweeks

The ratings are now;

  ratings: ["not relevant","relevant", "highly relevant"],

This works fine, but the RatingSummary gives an error when the array is
changed - see MTC [1]

TypeError <javascript:;>: cTids[rate] is undefined

Questions - (probably for Tobias)
1) I'd prefer to add my changes to zzConfigTweeks, how?
2) What changes to RatingSummary have to be made?

Best Wishes

Alex
[1] https://dl-web.getdropbox.com/get/3starRating.html?w=97aadd61

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Tobias - http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.c om  
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From: "Tobias - http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.com" <beertob...@googlemail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 05:40:33 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri 6 Nov 2009 13:40
Subject: Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
Hi Alex,

For one, I can't access yout mtc... I get this from dropbox...

"Oops! (403) It seems you don't belong here! You should probably try
logging in?"

But that's ok, got the bug anyways. It was due to me not checking
preexisting ratings. So it's fixed Get the new version of
RatingSummary. I also added a parameter to its beginning where you can
define the output format for a tiddler called 'tidderFormat'...
default is '[[%0]]', where %0 is the tiddlerName. Especially with
QuickOpenTagPlugin it is worthwile replacing that with '<<tag [[%1]]

>>'.

So now you can change your source...
ratings: ["none","poor", "below average", "average", "above average",
"excellent"],

into something like this...
ratings: ["none","low", "medium", "high"],

Enjoy,
Tobias.


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Alex Hough  
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 More options 6 Nov, 15:03
From: Alex Hough <r.a.ho...@googlemail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:03:21 +0000
Local: Fri 6 Nov 2009 15:03
Subject: Re: [tw] Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary

Tobias,

Thanks Tobais, it works great.
There is one other problem to solve.

I am using RatingSummary in a TW with TiddlersBarPlugin and want to display
the results in a tiddler with a space in-  'Pathology Summary'. I've tried
transclusion, but with TiddlersBarPlugin, the transcluded tiddler does not
refresh. I really need the refresh feature too.

I have looked at the documentation [1] and made a MTC [2]

I've tried refreshing another tiddler in the span thus:
<span macro="rating =here TiddlerSummary" >

Something like <span macro="rating =here [[Tiddler Summary]]" > would be
good.

... and had TiddlerSummary contain the same scipt as RatingSummary.

At the moment the solution is satisfactory, but i would like to have some
other title to the RatingSummary.

Thanks again

Alex
(ps I am devastated that my MTC didn't work.)

[1] http://lastfm.tiddlyspot.com/#RatingMacro

[2]
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1316865/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyWikiTestCases/Tiddl...
or
http://tinyurl.com/ydf6afo

2009/11/6 Tobias - http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.com <beertob...@googlemail.com>

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Måns  
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From: Måns <humam...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:14:17 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri 6 Nov 2009 22:14
Subject: Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
Hi Tobias

Is it possible to make the stars appear as stars and not just as small
rectangles in Google Chrome?

YS Måns Mårtensson

On 6 Nov., 14:40, "Tobias - http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.com"


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Alex Hough  
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From: Alex Hough <r.a.ho...@googlemail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:19:53 +0000
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 08:19
Subject: Re: [tw] Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary

Anyone - do the stars work in IE?
I've got that sinking feeling again ;(

Alex

2009/11/6 Måns <humam...@gmail.com>

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Tobias - http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.c om  
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From: "Tobias - http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.com" <beertob...@googlemail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:39:23 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 20:39
Subject: Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
Hi Mans. What about chrome?

For me it looks like this in chrome:
http://bit.ly/406yAn

and like this in ie7 (Avant Browser using ie7 rendering engine):
http://bit.ly/1jJcg4

Is that a charset-problem of your localisation of chrome? I have no
idea. However I have replaced the star in the code with its  unicode
counterpart, maybe that solved it for you. Please, try again... and
also note that you can replace the star with any other character that
works for you.

Last but not least, there also is an image version of it... though not
working in ie as that doesn't allow for embedded images using
'data'... http://bit.ly/1yyHtD
...however you could replace those with valid image paths.

Tobias.


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Tobias - http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.c om  
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From: "Tobias - http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.com" <beertob...@googlemail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:46:22 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 20:46
Subject: Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
Hi Alex

As far as I can observe, this has nothing to do with naming of
tiddlers. It's not even a problem in Rating-Macro but rather in how
Tiddlersbar is hiding tiddlers from display, and them not receiving
the refresh events on updates. I have found that to be an issue with
it as well... and added in one of my tiddlywikis a refresh to the
tiddler every time I click on a tab... though honestly, that's not
what I want! However doing so may cause problems if the tiddler was in
edit mode... then TiddlersBar might not be able to access it as it
can't refresh a tiddler in edit mode.

Right now I am lacking the knowledge of how to get around this. Anyone
has a clue? Eric? ;-)

Tobias.


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Måns  
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 More options 7 Nov, 21:27
From: Måns <humam...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:27:36 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 21:27
Subject: Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary

You are probably right - however this is what I see on
lastfm.tiddlyspot.com/#RatingMacro:
http://tinyurl.com/yfwrkwl

Måns

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Måns  
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 More options 7 Nov, 21:51
From: Måns <humam...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:51:56 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 21:51
Subject: Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
and IE: http://tinyurl.com/yf7kcbz

Måns

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 More options 7 Nov, 21:56
From: Måns <humam...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:56:13 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 21:56
Subject: Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
It's fine in FF: http://tinyurl.com/ylm52zf

Måns

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From: Alex Hough <r.a.ho...@googlemail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:59:21 +0000
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 06:59
Subject: Re: [tw] Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary

Tobias,

You are right: the name of the tiddler in which rating summary lives has no
baring. But the tiddler to which the results are sent can't have spaces in
their title.

A single word tiddler will suit me for the moment.

I broader question relating to summary tables and one to satisfy curiocity:
how do you get them to auto refresh? I am impressed how ratingSummary does
this

Alex

2009/11/7 Tobias - http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.com <beertob...@googlemail.com>

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Tobias - http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.c om  
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From: "Tobias - http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.com" <beertob...@googlemail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:25:18 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 14:25
Subject: Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
Anyone who has an understanding of (language.specific?!?) Unicode-
related problems... please check this out and see if you can help out.

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Tobias - http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.c om  
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From: "Tobias - http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.com" <beertob...@googlemail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:40:56 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 14:40
Subject: Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
Hi Alex,

Well, the results aren't really sent anywhere. Instead the tiddler
(transcluded or not) that fiddle with rating information like
RatingSummary are being 'refreshed' (update their contents). This is
what the 'update' function in RatingMacro is for and 'refresh' sure
would have been a more appropriate name for it. It loops over all
those tiddlers which you specified for being updated (aka 'refreshed')
which I stored in the 'rel' attribute of the rating wrapper. Somewhere
in the loop it does just the following:

story.refreshTiddler(tids[i],null,true);
refreshDisplay(tids[i]);

...which I assume doesn't work with TiddlersBar as for now, since all
tiddlers except the currently visible are 'display:none' and therefore
presumably skipped by the core 'refresh' handler. So I am not sure if
this is something the core could be amenable to or whether TiddlersBar
requires some more tinkering with.

Anyone around with a more indepth understanding of the process or an
idea on how to refresh hidden content?

Tobias.


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From: dickon <dickon.beving...@googlemail.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 03:28:11 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon 9 Nov 2009 11:28
Subject: Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
I am following this thread with great interest but only understanding
small parts of it from a technical point of view.

Can I ask a question about the *application* of this function, once it
is up and running, though?  Am I right in thinking that in a TiddlyWeb
you could use this to allow multiple users to provide feedback on the
usefulness of particular tiddlers - that could be gathered up in a
separate 'bag', and which might then help refine the content in the
document over time?  I am thinking in particular of how it might be
used in the treatment manual that is slowly growing at
http://imp.peermore.com/imp/recipes/editorial/tiddlers.wiki

Cheers,

Dickon

On Nov 8, 2:40 pm, "Tobias - http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.com"


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From: jnthnlstr <jnthnl...@googlemail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:43:50 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues 10 Nov 2009 17:43
Subject: Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
Dickon,

If I understand correctly, Tobias' plugin works on the tiddler itself
to add a rating, so you'd need an expansion of this plugin to work
with multiple people rating tiddlers.

You might also be interested in this TiddlyWeb discussion about a
voting system:
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlyweb/browse_thread/thread/3bbedd8...

J.

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