It is not clear exactly how many Muslims serve in the 1.4 million-
strong US armed forces, as recruits are not required to state their
religion.
We have a diverse armed forces, and whatever their religion our
troops have a part to play, and they play it very well
Lt Col Nathan Banks Army spokesman
According to the Pentagon, there are 3,572 Muslims in active service.
However, some Muslims in the military say the real number is as high
as 20,000.
The US government has made no secret of the fact that it would like to
see more people from Arab and Muslim communities joining the armed
forces.
More American Muslim troops on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan has
long been seen as a vital part in helping the US in its missions to
win hearts and minds in those countries.
"They are a great asset to the army," Lt Col Nathan Banks, army
spokesman for the Pentagon, told the BBC.
"When they do deploy they help facilitate a lot of our missions.
American Muslims in the army work hand in hand with local Muslims, and
we welcome that."
He said the army did not foresee heightened tensions within its ranks
as a result of Fort Hood.
"This was an isolated incident. Our hearts go out to everyone affected
by this, but the army will stay strong. We have a diverse armed
forces, and whatever their religion our troops have a part to play,
and they play it very well."
But anti-Muslim sentiment is being felt as a result of the shooting.
The Arab-American Institute - which condemned the massacre - said it
had received at least one threatening phone call, and expected more.
One soldier at the Texas base admitted the coming days would be tough
for his Muslim colleagues.
"They've taken it hard due to the fact that it kind of puts a negative
light on them and makes people distrust them," he told the BBC.
"Because everybody is going to look at them [and think]: "Well, you're
probably going to pull something like this. And it's a sad fact that
that will happen".
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:33 PM, elle <mbp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Views?
> It is not clear exactly how many Muslims serve in the 1.4 million- > strong US armed forces, as recruits are not required to state their > religion.
> We have a diverse armed forces, and whatever their religion our > troops have a part to play, and they play it very well > Lt Col Nathan Banks Army spokesman
> According to the Pentagon, there are 3,572 Muslims in active service. > However, some Muslims in the military say the real number is as high > as 20,000.
> The US government has made no secret of the fact that it would like to > see more people from Arab and Muslim communities joining the armed > forces. > More American Muslim troops on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan has > long been seen as a vital part in helping the US in its missions to > win hearts and minds in those countries.
> "They are a great asset to the army," Lt Col Nathan Banks, army > spokesman for the Pentagon, told the BBC. > "When they do deploy they help facilitate a lot of our missions. > American Muslims in the army work hand in hand with local Muslims, and > we welcome that."
> He said the army did not foresee heightened tensions within its ranks > as a result of Fort Hood. > "This was an isolated incident. Our hearts go out to everyone affected > by this, but the army will stay strong. We have a diverse armed > forces, and whatever their religion our troops have a part to play, > and they play it very well." > But anti-Muslim sentiment is being felt as a result of the shooting. > The Arab-American Institute - which condemned the massacre - said it > had received at least one threatening phone call, and expected more.
> One soldier at the Texas base admitted the coming days would be tough > for his Muslim colleagues. > "They've taken it hard due to the fact that it kind of puts a negative > light on them and makes people distrust them," he told the BBC.
> "Because everybody is going to look at them [and think]: "Well, you're > probably going to pull something like this. And it's a sad fact that > that will happen".
One thing that 'got to' me was the vdeo of Hasan hours before the
attack when he was dressed in Muslim garb and smiling. He has said
that he got hostile treatment in the military and I have to say, duh!
If that's how he dressed among his colleagues what did he expect?
IMO this was a man who took advantage of the military paying for his
medical education but did not want to uphold his part of the bargain,
which involved being sent to Afghanistan because he did not want to
kill other muslims.
The son of a friend of mine is just back from Iraq, he joined the army
to get help for college, he is maintaining his part of the bargain.
yD
> It is not clear exactly how many Muslims serve in the 1.4 million-
> strong US armed forces, as recruits are not required to state their
> religion.
> We have a diverse armed forces, and whatever their religion our
> troops have a part to play, and they play it very well
> Lt Col Nathan Banks Army spokesman
> According to the Pentagon, there are 3,572 Muslims in active service.
> However, some Muslims in the military say the real number is as high
> as 20,000.
> The US government has made no secret of the fact that it would like to
> see more people from Arab and Muslim communities joining the armed
> forces.
> More American Muslim troops on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan has
> long been seen as a vital part in helping the US in its missions to
> win hearts and minds in those countries.
> "They are a great asset to the army," Lt Col Nathan Banks, army
> spokesman for the Pentagon, told the BBC.
> "When they do deploy they help facilitate a lot of our missions.
> American Muslims in the army work hand in hand with local Muslims, and
> we welcome that."
> He said the army did not foresee heightened tensions within its ranks
> as a result of Fort Hood.
> "This was an isolated incident. Our hearts go out to everyone affected
> by this, but the army will stay strong. We have a diverse armed
> forces, and whatever their religion our troops have a part to play,
> and they play it very well."
> But anti-Muslim sentiment is being felt as a result of the shooting.
> The Arab-American Institute - which condemned the massacre - said it
> had received at least one threatening phone call, and expected more.
> One soldier at the Texas base admitted the coming days would be tough
> for his Muslim colleagues.
> "They've taken it hard due to the fact that it kind of puts a negative
> light on them and makes people distrust them," he told the BBC.
> "Because everybody is going to look at them [and think]: "Well, you're
> probably going to pull something like this. And it's a sad fact that
> that will happen".
yD, When he went into that store in that Muslim garb, he was showing
Islamic defiance, in the same way that a Muslim shows defiance in
wearing the Burka. He had probably been to the Mosquue for his final
prayers and smiling because he knew what he was about to do. Here is a
clip that you may not have seen:
"Neighbours reportedly said Hasan, 39, was in a rush when he gave away
his belongings - including a Koran - shortly before Thursday's bloody
shooting spree.
"I'm not going to need them," he told one neighbour, Patricia Villa,
according to The New York Times, handing over bags of vegetables, a
mattress and clothing.
A US-born Muslim of Palestinian heritage, Hasan, 39, had voiced dismay
over US wars in Islamic countries and was distraught that he was about
to be deployed to Afghanistan.
He reportedly said the US struggle against terror threats was a "war
on Muslims," while his family alleged he was the target of prejudice
and harassment over his Islamic faith."
> One thing that 'got to' me was the vdeo of Hasan hours before the
> attack when he was dressed in Muslim garb and smiling. He has said
> that he got hostile treatment in the military and I have to say, duh!
> If that's how he dressed among his colleagues what did he expect?
> IMO this was a man who took advantage of the military paying for his
> medical education but did not want to uphold his part of the bargain,
> which involved being sent to Afghanistan because he did not want to
> kill other muslims.
> The son of a friend of mine is just back from Iraq, he joined the army
> to get help for college, he is maintaining his part of the bargain.
> yD
> On Nov 7, 4:33 am, elle <mbp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Views?
> > It is not clear exactly how many Muslims serve in the 1.4 million-
> > strong US armed forces, as recruits are not required to state their
> > religion.
> > We have a diverse armed forces, and whatever their religion our
> > troops have a part to play, and they play it very well
> > Lt Col Nathan Banks Army spokesman
> > According to the Pentagon, there are 3,572 Muslims in active service.
> > However, some Muslims in the military say the real number is as high
> > as 20,000.
> > The US government has made no secret of the fact that it would like to
> > see more people from Arab and Muslim communities joining the armed
> > forces.
> > More American Muslim troops on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan has
> > long been seen as a vital part in helping the US in its missions to
> > win hearts and minds in those countries.
> > "They are a great asset to the army," Lt Col Nathan Banks, army
> > spokesman for the Pentagon, told the BBC.
> > "When they do deploy they help facilitate a lot of our missions.
> > American Muslims in the army work hand in hand with local Muslims, and
> > we welcome that."
> > He said the army did not foresee heightened tensions within its ranks
> > as a result of Fort Hood.
> > "This was an isolated incident. Our hearts go out to everyone affected
> > by this, but the army will stay strong. We have a diverse armed
> > forces, and whatever their religion our troops have a part to play,
> > and they play it very well."
> > But anti-Muslim sentiment is being felt as a result of the shooting.
> > The Arab-American Institute - which condemned the massacre - said it
> > had received at least one threatening phone call, and expected more.
> > One soldier at the Texas base admitted the coming days would be tough
> > for his Muslim colleagues.
> > "They've taken it hard due to the fact that it kind of puts a negative
> > light on them and makes people distrust them," he told the BBC.
> > "Because everybody is going to look at them [and think]: "Well, you're
> > probably going to pull something like this. And it's a sad fact that
> > that will happen".
> yD, When he went into that store in that Muslim garb, he was showing
> Islamic defiance, in the same way that a Muslim shows defiance in
> wearing the Burka. He had probably been to the Mosquue for his final
> prayers and smiling because he knew what he was about to do. Here is a
> clip that you may not have seen:
> "Neighbours reportedly said Hasan, 39, was in a rush when he gave away
> his belongings - including a Koran - shortly before Thursday's bloody
> shooting spree.
> "I'm not going to need them," he told one neighbour, Patricia Villa,
> according to The New York Times, handing over bags of vegetables, a
> mattress and clothing.
> A US-born Muslim of Palestinian heritage, Hasan, 39, had voiced dismay
> over US wars in Islamic countries and was distraught that he was about
> to be deployed to Afghanistan.
> He reportedly said the US struggle against terror threats was a "war
> on Muslims," while his family alleged he was the target of prejudice
> and harassment over his Islamic faith."
> On 7 Nov, 18:11, yD <yaffad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > One thing that 'got to' me was the vdeo of Hasan hours before the
> > attack when he was dressed in Muslim garb and smiling. He has said
> > that he got hostile treatment in the military and I have to say, duh!
> > If that's how he dressed among his colleagues what did he expect?
> > IMO this was a man who took advantage of the military paying for his
> > medical education but did not want to uphold his part of the bargain,
> > which involved being sent to Afghanistan because he did not want to
> > kill other muslims.
> > The son of a friend of mine is just back from Iraq, he joined the army
> > to get help for college, he is maintaining his part of the bargain.
> > yD
> > On Nov 7, 4:33 am, elle <mbp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Views?
> > > It is not clear exactly how many Muslims serve in the 1.4 million-
> > > strong US armed forces, as recruits are not required to state their
> > > religion.
> > > We have a diverse armed forces, and whatever their religion our
> > > troops have a part to play, and they play it very well
> > > Lt Col Nathan Banks Army spokesman
> > > According to the Pentagon, there are 3,572 Muslims in active service.
> > > However, some Muslims in the military say the real number is as high
> > > as 20,000.
> > > The US government has made no secret of the fact that it would like to
> > > see more people from Arab and Muslim communities joining the armed
> > > forces.
> > > More American Muslim troops on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan has
> > > long been seen as a vital part in helping the US in its missions to
> > > win hearts and minds in those countries.
> > > "They are a great asset to the army," Lt Col Nathan Banks, army
> > > spokesman for the Pentagon, told the BBC.
> > > "When they do deploy they help facilitate a lot of our missions.
> > > American Muslims in the army work hand in hand with local Muslims, and
> > > we welcome that."
> > > He said the army did not foresee heightened tensions within its ranks
> > > as a result of Fort Hood.
> > > "This was an isolated incident. Our hearts go out to everyone affected
> > > by this, but the army will stay strong. We have a diverse armed
> > > forces, and whatever their religion our troops have a part to play,
> > > and they play it very well."
> > > But anti-Muslim sentiment is being felt as a result of the shooting.
> > > The Arab-American Institute - which condemned the massacre - said it
> > > had received at least one threatening phone call, and expected more.
> > > One soldier at the Texas base admitted the coming days would be tough
> > > for his Muslim colleagues.
> > > "They've taken it hard due to the fact that it kind of puts a negative
> > > light on them and makes people distrust them," he told the BBC.
> > > "Because everybody is going to look at them [and think]: "Well, you're
> > > probably going to pull something like this. And it's a sad fact that
> > > that will happen".
Perhaps the military needs to stress that they fight for their
country, not religion -- Imagine if Christians and aetheists had said
they wouldn't fight in WWI and II! I agree that he wore the Muslim
garb inn defiance and it also gave him an excuse to complain about
harrassment by non-Muslims. I saw on the news this morning that he is
paralyzed and my immediate thought was 'good.' I hate when I am made
to feel like that. I don't know why the Americans, and the British to
a greater extent, are so passive about Muslims. I believe the recent
insistence on using the English flag may be part of a fight-back
attitude. I keep going back to Enoch Powell's prediction of rivers
of blood.
yD
> yD, When he went into that store in that Muslim garb, he was showing
> Islamic defiance, in the same way that a Muslim shows defiance in
> wearing the Burka. He had probably been to the Mosquue for his final
> prayers and smiling because he knew what he was about to do. Here is a
> clip that you may not have seen:
> "Neighbours reportedly said Hasan, 39, was in a rush when he gave away
> his belongings - including a Koran - shortly before Thursday's bloody
> shooting spree.
> "I'm not going to need them," he told one neighbour, Patricia Villa,
> according to The New York Times, handing over bags of vegetables, a
> mattress and clothing.
> A US-born Muslim of Palestinian heritage, Hasan, 39, had voiced dismay
> over US wars in Islamic countries and was distraught that he was about
> to be deployed to Afghanistan.
> He reportedly said the US struggle against terror threats was a "war
> on Muslims," while his family alleged he was the target of prejudice
> and harassment over his Islamic faith."
> On 7 Nov, 18:11, yD <yaffad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > One thing that 'got to' me was the vdeo of Hasan hours before the
> > attack when he was dressed in Muslim garb and smiling. He has said
> > that he got hostile treatment in the military and I have to say, duh!
> > If that's how he dressed among his colleagues what did he expect?
> > IMO this was a man who took advantage of the military paying for his
> > medical education but did not want to uphold his part of the bargain,
> > which involved being sent to Afghanistan because he did not want to
> > kill other muslims.
> > The son of a friend of mine is just back from Iraq, he joined the army
> > to get help for college, he is maintaining his part of the bargain.
> > yD
> > On Nov 7, 4:33 am, elle <mbp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Views?
> > > It is not clear exactly how many Muslims serve in the 1.4 million-
> > > strong US armed forces, as recruits are not required to state their
> > > religion.
> > > We have a diverse armed forces, and whatever their religion our
> > > troops have a part to play, and they play it very well
> > > Lt Col Nathan Banks Army spokesman
> > > According to the Pentagon, there are 3,572 Muslims in active service.
> > > However, some Muslims in the military say the real number is as high
> > > as 20,000.
> > > The US government has made no secret of the fact that it would like to
> > > see more people from Arab and Muslim communities joining the armed
> > > forces.
> > > More American Muslim troops on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan has
> > > long been seen as a vital part in helping the US in its missions to
> > > win hearts and minds in those countries.
> > > "They are a great asset to the army," Lt Col Nathan Banks, army
> > > spokesman for the Pentagon, told the BBC.
> > > "When they do deploy they help facilitate a lot of our missions.
> > > American Muslims in the army work hand in hand with local Muslims, and
> > > we welcome that."
> > > He said the army did not foresee heightened tensions within its ranks
> > > as a result of Fort Hood.
> > > "This was an isolated incident. Our hearts go out to everyone affected
> > > by this, but the army will stay strong. We have a diverse armed
> > > forces, and whatever their religion our troops have a part to play,
> > > and they play it very well."
> > > But anti-Muslim sentiment is being felt as a result of the shooting.
> > > The Arab-American Institute - which condemned the massacre - said it
> > > had received at least one threatening phone call, and expected more.
> > > One soldier at the Texas base admitted the coming days would be tough
> > > for his Muslim colleagues.
> > > "They've taken it hard due to the fact that it kind of puts a negative
> > > light on them and makes people distrust them," he told the BBC.
> > > "Because everybody is going to look at them [and think]: "Well, you're
> > > probably going to pull something like this. And it's a sad fact that
> > > that will happen".- Hide quoted text -
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:36 PM, yD <yaffad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps the military needs to stress that they fight for their > country, not religion --
The man was just promoted to Major six months ago and presumably had to take an oath of rank:
"I, _____ , having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God."
Thanks for that, I didn't know what the oath included. There is, imo,
no way to persuade the Muslims that Iraq, Afghanistan and the 'war on
terrorism' is not a war against muslims, they have persuaded
themselves and others that this is the case.
With regard to Hasan, the military failed badly. He could have been
court marshalled for his opinions and statements about not fighting
muslims. Plus an army barracks has been 'invaded' in a way the Fort
Dix conspirators did not plan, and this, imo, opens the gates, so to
speak, on other attacks by Muslims on various institutions to which
they belong.
yD
On Nov 13, 4:43 pm, Kay <kaykay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:36 PM, yD <yaffad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Perhaps the military needs to stress that they fight for their
> > country, not religion --
> The man was just promoted to Major six months ago and presumably had to take
> an oath of rank:
> "I, _____ , having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United
> States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or
> affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States
> against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and
> allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any
> mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and
> faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to
> enter; So help me God."
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:48 PM, yD <yaffad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for that, I didn't know what the oath included. There is, imo, > no way to persuade the Muslims that Iraq, Afghanistan and the 'war on > terrorism' is not a war against muslims, they have persuaded > themselves and others that this is the case.
> With regard to Hasan, the military failed badly. He could have been > court marshalled for his opinions and statements about not fighting > muslims. Plus an army barracks has been 'invaded' in a way the Fort > Dix conspirators did not plan, and this, imo, opens the gates, so to > speak, on other attacks by Muslims on various institutions to which > they belong. > yD
> On Nov 13, 4:43 pm, Kay <kaykay...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:36 PM, yD <yaffad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Perhaps the military needs to stress that they fight for their > > > country, not religion --
> > The man was just promoted to Major six months ago and presumably had to > take > > an oath of rank:
> > "I, _____ , having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United > > States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or > > affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United > States > > against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and > > allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any > > mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and > > faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to > > enter; So help me God."
The Salary of a US Army Major is US$104,692 p.a. Why not take that
money from America and do not want to go and fight? Muslims will not
kill innocent Muslims no matter what.
On 13 Nov, 21:49, Kay <kaykay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:48 PM, yD <yaffad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks for that, I didn't know what the oath included. There is, imo,
> > no way to persuade the Muslims that Iraq, Afghanistan and the 'war on
> > terrorism' is not a war against muslims, they have persuaded
> > themselves and others that this is the case.
> Then they have no business taking such an oath.
> > With regard to Hasan, the military failed badly. He could have been
> > court marshalled for his opinions and statements about not fighting
> > muslims. Plus an army barracks has been 'invaded' in a way the Fort
> > Dix conspirators did not plan, and this, imo, opens the gates, so to
> > speak, on other attacks by Muslims on various institutions to which
> > they belong.
> > yD
> > On Nov 13, 4:43 pm, Kay <kaykay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:36 PM, yD <yaffad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Perhaps the military needs to stress that they fight for their
> > > > country, not religion --
> > > The man was just promoted to Major six months ago and presumably had to
> > take
> > > an oath of rank:
> > > "I, _____ , having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United
> > > States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or
> > > affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United
> > States
> > > against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and
> > > allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any
> > > mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and
> > > faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to
> > > enter; So help me God."
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:48 PM, yD <yaffad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks for that, I didn't know what the oath included. There is, imo,
> > no way to persuade the Muslims that Iraq, Afghanistan and the 'war on
> > terrorism' is not a war against muslims, they have persuaded
> > themselves and others that this is the case.
> Then they have no business taking such an oath.
> > With regard to Hasan, the military failed badly. He could have been
> > court marshalled for his opinions and statements about not fighting
> > muslims. Plus an army barracks has been 'invaded' in a way the Fort
> > Dix conspirators did not plan, and this, imo, opens the gates, so to
> > speak, on other attacks by Muslims on various institutions to which
> > they belong.
> > yD
> > On Nov 13, 4:43 pm, Kay <kaykay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:36 PM, yD <yaffad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Perhaps the military needs to stress that they fight for their
> > > > country, not religion --
> > > The man was just promoted to Major six months ago and presumably had to
> > take
> > > an oath of rank:
> > > "I, _____ , having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United
> > > States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or
> > > affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United
> > States
> > > against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and
> > > allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any
> > > mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and
> > > faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to
> > > enter; So help me God."- Hide quoted text -
yD I believe in Islam that is an escape clause and that is by applying
the Principle of TAQIYYA OR KITMAN. Mohammad has already provided
Muslims with excuses for breaking their oaths.
> They can take the oath, but they shouldn't break it!
> yD
> On 13 Nov, 16:49, Kay <kaykay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:48 PM, yD <yaffad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Thanks for that, I didn't know what the oath included. There is, imo,
> > > no way to persuade the Muslims that Iraq, Afghanistan and the 'war on
> > > terrorism' is not a war against muslims, they have persuaded
> > > themselves and others that this is the case.
> > Then they have no business taking such an oath.
> > > With regard to Hasan, the military failed badly. He could have been
> > > court marshalled for his opinions and statements about not fighting
> > > muslims. Plus an army barracks has been 'invaded' in a way the Fort
> > > Dix conspirators did not plan, and this, imo, opens the gates, so to
> > > speak, on other attacks by Muslims on various institutions to which
> > > they belong.
> > > yD
> > > On Nov 13, 4:43 pm, Kay <kaykay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:36 PM, yD <yaffad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Perhaps the military needs to stress that they fight for their
> > > > > country, not religion --
> > > > The man was just promoted to Major six months ago and presumably had to
> > > take
> > > > an oath of rank:
> > > > "I, _____ , having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United
> > > > States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or
> > > > affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United
> > > States
> > > > against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and
> > > > allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any
> > > > mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and
> > > > faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to
> > > > enter; So help me God."- Hide quoted text -
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