The fantasy
usual suspect <abovegro...@earth.man>
our village idiot wrote:
>>Most animals will suffer TREMENDOUSLY as long as there's predation,
>>whether humans prey or not. I hope it gives you "-extreme-" pleasure to
>>know baby lions are sleeping with full bellies because their mothers
>>caused other animals to suffer.
> Suffering UNECESSARILLY.
Suffering is a necessary part of existence ON our planet. It may not be
a part of the existence BENEATH the planet, so I can appreciate your
inner earth delusions.
>>>all people have the space and resources to live with
>>>abundance; enjoying health and vitality, and that the
>>>ecosphere is recovering well, all wild species thriving.
>>Thriving requires sacrifice and suffering, you nitwit.
> It also means living and pleasure, butthead.
Living requires food. Animals are food. Pleasure is a function of
eating, too, so it makes sense that animals are for our pleasure.
>>>The idea is hardly unique. Plant foods have always made
>>>up a primary part of humans' diet, even all or nearly all
>>>of it, in many cultures around the globe until very recently.
>>Most people also died before age 50.
> Your evidence for that?
I'll stand by that with respect to a time-frame of a little longer than
"until very recently." I'll add that I have serious doubts about the
longevity of early hominids given predation, disease, and acts of
nature. Those utopian pseudo-science websites you like to cite don't
mention any of the above -- I wonder why.
