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Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals, uk.business.agriculture, alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian
From: usual suspect <abovegro...@earth.man>
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 19:12:36 GMT
Local: Sun 13 July 2003 20:12
Subject: Re: The fantasy
our village idiot wrote: Suffering is a necessary part of existence ON our planet. It may not be >>Most animals will suffer TREMENDOUSLY as long as there's predation, >>whether humans prey or not. I hope it gives you "-extreme-" pleasure to >>know baby lions are sleeping with full bellies because their mothers >>caused other animals to suffer. > Suffering UNECESSARILLY. a part of the existence BENEATH the planet, so I can appreciate your inner earth delusions. >>>all people have the space and resources to live with Living requires food. Animals are food. Pleasure is a function of >>>abundance; enjoying health and vitality, and that the >>>ecosphere is recovering well, all wild species thriving. >>Thriving requires sacrifice and suffering, you nitwit. > It also means living and pleasure, butthead. eating, too, so it makes sense that animals are for our pleasure. >>>The idea is hardly unique. Plant foods have always made I'll stand by that with respect to a time-frame of a little longer than >>>up a primary part of humans' diet, even all or nearly all >>>of it, in many cultures around the globe until very recently. >>Most people also died before age 50. > Your evidence for that? "until very recently." I'll add that I have serious doubts about the longevity of early hominids given predation, disease, and acts of nature. Those utopian pseudo-science websites you like to cite don't mention any of the above -- I wonder why. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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