software_craftsmanship Google Group

Re: [SC] Auditioning For Software Craftsmanship 2010

2009-11-22T02:27:42Z

I didn't read anything about choice of language would C# be ok?

-Mark

Re: [SC] Auditioning For Software Craftsmanship 2010

2009-11-22T02:26:12Z

Hi Jason,

Very interesting and cool approach, I believe that I'll be preparing
an audition :)

-Mark

Re: [SC] Auditioning For Software Craftsmanship 2010

2009-11-21T23:25:31Z

Jason,

I'm excited you're doing a Software Craftsmanship conference in 2010!

And I think the format is going to make for a very interesting day
together. I'll start noodling on an audition, and hopefully be able
to clear my calendar to attend, though a mid-summer date makes it
tough with holidays + kids.

Auditioning For Software Craftsmanship 2010

2009-11-21T15:44:39Z

Hi Folks

Software Craftsmanship 2010 will very probably be at Bletchley Park
nr. London, and very probably in early July. (July 1st is current
favourite - confirmation of date/location will be in 2-3 weeks's time)

Some early details about the auditioning process are now up on my
blog:

[link]

Conference Announcement

2009-11-17T15:00:30Z

The blogging group that I belong to (Los Techies) is going to be hosting an
open space format conference in Austin, TX February 26-28 2010.
Please check your schedules and think about coming!
Details:
Los Techies Open Space Conference on Software Quality & Craftsmanship
*Where: St. Edward's Professional Educational Center, Austin TX*

Re: analogy to sculpture/masonry/painting/...?

2009-11-11T21:03:17Z

Thanks for the warm welcome.

To answer Dave's inquiry, here's a bit about my background.

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my background
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I did 4 years of CS grad school at UCLA, shifting from AI to data
modeling to programming language design. I was a TA for 3 years, which

Re: [SC] Re: analogy to sculpture/masonry/painting/...?

2009-11-11T10:55:15Z

I don't have any specific knowledge or ideas to share with Steve,
because I don't know enough about what he's up to. I would start by
asking Steve to tell us about his experiments and his practice. Then
I would ask about how he has been learning the craft and how he has
been helping others learn the craft.

Re: [SC] Re: analogy to sculpture/masonry/painting/...?

2009-11-11T03:38:48Z

The excellent book "Naked
Economics<[link]>"
talks a lot about how professional organizations have a string incentive in
limiting the size of their labor market. The basic idea is that if there

Re: [SC] Re: analogy to sculpture/masonry/painting/...?

2009-11-11T02:58:32Z

I've shied away from using the term 'Engineer' mainly because engineering
describes those fields where the activity or output can be precisely
measured or controlled.

Making paint needs to be engineered so it consistently comes out with the
same color, viscosity, texture, etc. each and every batch. If the paint is

Re: [SC] Re: analogy to sculpture/masonry/painting/...?

2009-11-11T02:30:25Z

2009/11/10 Steve Wedig <stevewe...@gmail.com>:
The above is admirable but I wonder if that's enough? Don't we have
more to offer than a name and the prospect of a convivial mailing
list?
This mailing list has been going on in this form for just over 13
months. I like to think that we've learned some things that we should

Re: analogy to sculpture/masonry/painting/...?

2009-11-10T19:15:06Z

I doubt there's a 'right' terminology, but having some consensus on
how to communicate ideas seems useful. I guess that's why its useful
to name patterns.

So with that in mind, this group's consensus name of our craft is
"software craftsmanship"? Similar to if sculptors were described as
practicing the craft of "stone craftsmanship"?

Re: [SC] Re: Education Plan (how to skill up a young team)

2009-11-10T18:28:44Z

yup. e.g. i think it has worked well for the Silicon Valley Patterns
Group for many years now.

Re: Education Plan (how to skill up a young team)

2009-11-10T17:14:04Z

Set up showings of videos on technical topics you find on the web
(dnrtv.com is a good place to start)
and following it up with a 10 to 15 minute discussion of how you can
apply things you learned to the projects you're currently working on.
You don't even have to have a projector. Find someone with a good size

Re: Education Plan (how to skill up a young team)

2009-11-10T17:03:29Z

Here's a terrific way to continually re-ignite a group:
Have a short series (2 to 4 meetings) on a particular topic and then
"restart" the group by changing your focus.
People often feel uncomfortable jumping into an established group.
Even loyal attendees get board. This strategy of "rebooting" the group

Re: [SC] analogy to sculpture/masonry/painting/...?

2009-11-10T16:45:03Z

Because someone can memorize the answers to a test, the public is
sooooooooo much safer. Where do I get my license?