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Binyamin Dissen  
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 More options 11 Apr 2004, 09:26
Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel, soc.culture.palestine
From: Binyamin Dissen <postin...@dissensoftware.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 11:26:37 +0300
Local: Sun 11 Apr 2004 09:26
Subject: Any ISM members captured in Iraq?
If not, why not?

Are they allowed to roam free to inform on the locations of the aid workers?

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Binyamin Dissen <bdis...@dissensoftware.com>
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Al-Quds  
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 More options 11 Apr 2004, 16:56
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From: "Al-Quds" <s...@127.0.0.1>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 16:56:30 +0100
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Subject: Re: Any ISM members captured in Iraq?
"Binyamin Dissen" <postin...@dissensoftware.com> wrote in message

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> If not, why not?

Mybe because the ISM are too busy dodging israeli bullets in occupied
Palestine!!!

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Bill Levinson  
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 More options 11 Apr 2004, 17:09
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From: Bill Levinson <wlevin...@NOSPAM.stentorian.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 16:09:51 GMT
Local: Sun 11 Apr 2004 17:09
Subject: Re: Any ISM members captured in Iraq?

Binyamin Dissen wrote:
> If not, why not?

> Are they allowed to roam free to inform on the locations of the aid workers?

Wouldn't surprise me at all: http://www.omdurman.org/ism.html

--Bill


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Joeboy  
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 More options 11 Apr 2004, 17:44
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From: Joeboy <verybut...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:44:00 +0100
Subject: Re: Any ISM members captured in Iraq?
Since you ask, I have a friend who volunteered for ISM who's now in Iraq.
You can look at her website if you're interested in a version of her
activities that's grounded in reality rather than slanderous invention:
http://www.wildfirejo.org.uk

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Jeff  
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 More options 11 Apr 2004, 19:24
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From: "Jeff" <nob...@spamcop.net>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 11:24:10 -0700
Local: Sun 11 Apr 2004 19:24
Subject: Re: Any ISM members captured in Iraq?
I'm sure the terrorist sympathizing spies will find some way to involve
themselves with the events in Iraq.  They don't have a real life at home so
they try to get their names in the news by adopting other peoples' causes.
How sad.

"Binyamin Dissen" <postin...@dissensoftware.com> wrote in message

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Bill Levinson  
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 More options 11 Apr 2004, 21:50
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From: Bill Levinson <wlevin...@NOSPAM.stentorian.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 20:50:57 GMT
Local: Sun 11 Apr 2004 21:50
Subject: Re: Any ISM members captured in Iraq?

Joeboy wrote:
> Since you ask, I have a friend who volunteered for ISM who's now in Iraq.
> You can look at her website if you're interested in a version of her
> activities that's grounded in reality rather than slanderous invention:
> http://www.wildfirejo.org.uk

She is very likely to get a bullet in her back. It will be a jacketed
.223 round (the one used by American M-16s) but it will be fired by a
militant Islamic group, like the one commanded by that mullah or sheik.
Do you think that the vicious animals who murdered four Americans,
burned their bodies, and strung up their bodies afterward would hesitate
for one instant to shoot your friend (perhaps along with the peaceful
Iraqis with whom she associates) as long as they thought they could
blame the United States for it?

Hamas said openly that it benefited from Rachel Corrie's death and,
since Hamas is in the business of murder, it would be far from
surprising if it came out that Hamas had something to do with causing
her death. It's even possible that the ISM was involved, noting that
several of its members claim to be witnesses to Rachel's accident with
the bulldozer but not one of them lifted a finger to pull her out of the
way.

She sounds like a well-meaning and nice person and she deserves a hell
of a lot better than what happened to Rachel Corrie. (So did Rachel
Corrie, for that matter.) When you are more valuable to your friends
dead than you are alive (as Rachel Corrie was, per Hamas' own
statements), it is time to find new friends. Rachel didn't have time to
learn that lesson and I just hope your friend disassociates herself from
these people before it is too late.

http://www.omdurman.org/ism.html for more.

--Bill


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CW  
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 More options 11 Apr 2004, 22:32
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From: "CW" <c...@optonline.net>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:32:49 GMT
Local: Sun 11 Apr 2004 22:32
Subject: Re: Any ISM members captured in Iraq?

"Joeboy" <verybut...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Since you ask, I have a friend who volunteered for ISM who's now in Iraq.
> You can look at her website if you're interested in a version of her
> activities that's grounded in reality rather than slanderous invention:
> http://www.wildfirejo.org.uk

At the end of her article "When do the clocks change?" she recounts how
small businessmen and managers are being threatened as "collaborators" by
those she describes as "unionists" and "union organizers."  Your friend also
writes that the unions will work more slowly, but also aim to defeat
freedom.

CW


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Joeboy  
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 More options 11 Apr 2004, 23:21
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From: Joeboy <verybut...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:21:41 +0100
Local: Sun 11 Apr 2004 23:21
Subject: Re: Any ISM members captured in Iraq?

CW wrote:

> "Joeboy" <verybut...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:407975d1$0$11661$65c69314@mercury.nildram.net...
>> Since you ask, I have a friend who volunteered for ISM who's now in Iraq.
>> You can look at her website if you're interested in a version of her
>> activities that's grounded in reality rather than slanderous invention:
>> http://www.wildfirejo.org.uk

> At the end of her article "When do the clocks change?" she recounts how
> small businessmen and managers are being threatened as "collaborators" by
> those she describes as "unionists" and "union organizers."

No she doesn't.

> Your friend
> also writes that the unions will work more slowly, but also aim to defeat
> freedom.

No she doesn't.

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Joeboy  
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 More options 11 Apr 2004, 23:53
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From: Joeboy <verybut...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:53:07 +0100
Local: Sun 11 Apr 2004 23:53
Subject: Re: Any ISM members captured in Iraq?
Hi Bill.

Bill Levinson wrote:

> Joeboy wrote:

>> Since you ask, I have a friend who volunteered for ISM who's now in Iraq.
>> You can look at her website if you're interested in a version of her
>> activities that's grounded in reality rather than slanderous invention:
>> http://www.wildfirejo.org.uk

> She is very likely to get a bullet in her back.

Thanks for the heads up. We are obviously concerned for her safety.

> Hamas said openly that it benefited from Rachel Corrie's death and,
> since Hamas is in the business of murder, it would be far from
> surprising if it came out that Hamas had something to do with causing
> her death. It's even possible that the ISM was involved, noting that
> several of its members claim to be witnesses to Rachel's accident with
> the bulldozer but not one of them lifted a finger to pull her out of the
> way.

One could equally say that Israel is in the business of killing and the many
witnesses to suicide bombings failed to prevent the deaths of Israeli
citizens, proving that the Israel deliberately murders its citizens. I'm
not seriously suggesting that's true because I'm not a propagandist troll,
but it's just as reasonable and tasteful an argument as yours.

> She sounds like a well-meaning and nice person and she deserves a hell
> of a lot better than what happened to Rachel Corrie. (So did Rachel
> Corrie, for that matter.)

Rachel Corrie deserved better than to be used as a posthumous political
football by you, me, TorresD or anyone else.

Your page features an awful lot of garbage, but I'm sure you're aware of
that already.

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Basil  
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 More options 12 Apr 2004, 00:39
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From: maysal...@hotmail.com (Basil)
Date: 11 Apr 2004 16:39:05 -0700
Local: Mon 12 Apr 2004 00:39
Subject: Re: Any ISM members captured in Iraq?
"Jeff" <nob...@spamcop.net> wrote in message <news:m3gec.13306$wb4.5552@okepread02>...
> I'm sure the terrorist sympathizing spies will find some way to involve
> themselves with the events in Iraq.  They don't have a real life at home so
> they try to get their names in the news by adopting other peoples' causes.
> How sad.

         I wouldn't expect a white supremacist to understand i.e.
those people who look down on people trying to help the down-trodden
as foolish, and why white supremacist? Because their labeling of the
Palestinians whole-sale as terrorists is their way of covering up for
their prejudices i.e. inadequacies and then pointing at the ISM
activists as having nothing better to do.  It is like saying Mother
Theresa had nothing better to do when she helped people in Calcutta.

Basil


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Bill Levinson  
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 More options 12 Apr 2004, 02:14
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From: Bill Levinson <wlevin...@NOSPAM.stentorian.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 01:14:53 GMT
Local: Mon 12 Apr 2004 02:14
Subject: Re: Any ISM members captured in Iraq?

So am I. She is associating with some very dangerous people who
doubtlessly consider her expendable. Not the Iraqi families and circus
performers, who also could be victimized by the militants, but by any of
a dozen militant groups over there.

>>Hamas said openly that it benefited from Rachel Corrie's death and,
>>since Hamas is in the business of murder, it would be far from
>>surprising if it came out that Hamas had something to do with causing
>>her death. It's even possible that the ISM was involved, noting that
>>several of its members claim to be witnesses to Rachel's accident with
>>the bulldozer but not one of them lifted a finger to pull her out of the
>>way.

> One could equally say that Israel is in the business of killing and the many
> witnesses to suicide bombings failed to prevent the deaths of Israeli
> citizens, proving that the Israel deliberately murders its citizens. I'm
> not seriously suggesting that's true because I'm not a propagandist troll,
> but it's just as reasonable and tasteful an argument as yours.

Most people who see a suicide bomb (assuming they get a chance to see it
before it blows up) are going to run like hell or dive for cover. There
have been some instances in which extremely brave people have grappled
with the bombers to prevent them from detonating their weapons in the
knowledge that, if they failed, they would be blown into a million
pieces. It's the kind of action which, if performed by a member of the
U.S. Armed Forces or British Army, would probably lead to serious
consideration of the Medal of Honor or Victoria Cross respectively.

There is far less risk in pulling a woman out of the path of a
slowly-moving bulldozer. Someone could have grabbed one of Rachel's arms
and pulled her out of the way before the bulldozer ran her over (or
pushed a pile of dirt and rocks onto her). ISM has yet to offer a
credible explanation, or any explanation, as to how four or five of
their people could just stand there and watch her die.

>>She sounds like a well-meaning and nice person and she deserves a hell
>>of a lot better than what happened to Rachel Corrie. (So did Rachel
>>Corrie, for that matter.)
> Rachel Corrie deserved better than to be used as a posthumous political
> football by you, me, TorresD or anyone else.

It is ISM and Electronic Intifada that have been dipping their pens in
her innocent blood to make propaganda. Payback's a real bitch but I'm
sure you know that. Yes, I will keep rubbing ISM's and TorresD's face in
it every time they bring it up. If TorresD ever gets his/her
Congressional investigation into Rachel's "murder," it may expose things
he/she won't like.

>>http://www.omdurman.org/ism.html for more.

> Your page features an awful lot of garbage, but I'm sure you're aware of
> that already.

Please point out any misstatements of fact and I will gladly correct
them. Adam Shapiro and that ugly pig with whom he sleeps have advocated
violence. Hamas did gloat over Rachel Corrie's death. ISM did provide
safe house aid to terrorists. Shall I go on?

--Bill


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 More options 12 Apr 2004, 03:16
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From: "Jeff" <nob...@spamcop.net>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 19:16:46 -0700
Local: Mon 12 Apr 2004 03:16
Subject: Re: Any ISM members captured in Iraq?
"Basil" <maysal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>          I wouldn't expect a white supremacist to understand i.e.
> those people who look down on people trying to help the down-trodden
> as foolish, and why white supremacist? Because their labeling of the
> Palestinians whole-sale as terrorists is their way of covering up for
> their prejudices i.e. inadequacies and then pointing at the ISM
> activists as having nothing better to do.  It is like saying Mother
> Theresa had nothing better to do when she helped people in Calcutta.

You're trying to equate ISM with Mother Theresa???

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WOW, you people are even more full of yourselves than I thought.  You really
need to see a good Jewish psychiatrist.  I can recommend one for you.


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