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I'm Not Sure if this Worries Me or Not.
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From: HW@..(Henri Wilson)
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Subject: Re: I'm Not Sure if this Worries Me or Not.
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On 30 Mar 2006 03:12:43 -0800, "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.ander...@hia.no>
wrote:
>
>Henri Wilson skrev:
>> On 29 Mar 2006 00:00:31 -0800, "Jerry" <Cephalobus_alie...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Henri Wilson wrote:
>> >> On 27 Mar 2006 23:54:04 -0800, "Jerry" <Cephalobus_alie...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >Oh, yeah, you postulate the existence of some sort of retrograde
>> >> >force operating on charged particles, forget what you call it...
>> >>
>> >> Are you refering to Wilson's 'reverse field bubble'?
>> >
>> >Oh yeah, that's what you call it...
>> >Tell me, Henri, what does an electron pass through that pushes back
>> >and keeps the electron from going any faster than c?
>>
>> There is no theoretical limit to relative speed.
>>
>> In an accelerator that uses an electric field, the moving charge builds up a
>> reverse field around itself. The faster it goes the bigger the reverse field.
>> At speed c wrt the plates, the local reverse field balances the applied field.
>
>Oh, no, Henri. This will not do.
>Have you forgotten your own explanation?
>Remember that we know that the moving charge gains the same
>amount of energy every time it passes through the accelerating field,
>regardless what its speed is.
>So we know that nothing cancels the accelerating field; it is not
>balanced by anything.
>To overcome this, you have previously claimed that the gained
>energy is carried by your "reverse field bubble", which means
>that any moving charged particle must be is surrounded by
>a "reverse field bubble" also when it is not in the accelerating field.
>Since we also know that the kinetic energy of the - according to you -
>charged particle with its reverse field bubble approaches infinity
>when the speed approaches c, it follows that according to Henri Wilson
>the theoretical speed limit of a charged particle is c.
It is true.
A charge cannot be made to move at >c between the plates of a condensor (which
is effectively what an accelerator is).
It requires infinfite energy to raise its speed to c wrt those plates.
The reason: the charge's own movement creates a reverse field that subtracts
from the applied field. The associated energy is contained in 'Wilson's reverse
field bubble' that is carried along with the charge.
>Hilarious, no? :-)
Major scientific discoveries shouldn't be referred to as 'hilarious' but
throughout history, that has frequently happened.
Unfortunate, no? :-(
>
>Paul
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