Bro V Paari,

Thanks for your fast action....

 United We Stand Divided We Fall
One Mind - One Goal - One Vision - One Voice
Stand Up For Justice - Fight Till the End
Do Not Fear - BE UNITED ALWAYS

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From: vell paari samyvellu <vellpa...@gmail.com>
To: Indian-Malays...@yahoogroups.com; subra_nalini subra <subra_nal...@yahoo.com.my>; Vejay Chin <vejay.c...@yahoo.com>
Cc: MalaysianIndianC...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 23, 2009 5:54:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Indian-Malaysian] from subra..... ms saroja

Dear Brother Vejay,

One of our MIC Youth boy have spoken to her mother and the mother requested him to visit them later part of the evening. I will find a solution for her medical treatment, her son's education, accommodation issue and daily needs. These issues have to be sorted out first while looking into welfare issue, for welfare might take time.

My advice in regards to raising funds for ms.saroja, better open a kind of a trust account to deposit the funds and have it managed by your members. You can maybe help to clear some of her debt and instruct the bank to transfer a certain amount into her account every month. Because if news gets out she suddenly has at least Rm50k in her account, unscrupulous wolves might be attracted to them. All three might become they prey. Please believe me, I have seen it happening. Also It will be difficult for us to seek more welfare aid with her having at least Rm50k in the bank.

Regards

Paari

I suggest SJ to head the team and start the trust fund immediately as I feel that SJ is capable in handling such matters.... SJ make sure you do it fast as Saroja needs fund immediately to take care of herself, family and get ready for the next operation any time soon....

 United We Stand Divided We Fall
One Mind - One Goal - One Vision - One Voice
Stand Up For Justice - Fight Till the End
Do Not Fear - BE UNITED ALWAYS

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From: SJ <s_...@yahoo.com>
To: Malaysian Indian Group <Indian-Malays...@yahoogroups.com>; subra_nalini subra <subra_nal...@yahoo.com.my>; Vejay Chin <vejay.c...@yahoo.com>; VellPaari <s.vellpa...@yahoo.com>; Nivas Ragavan <nivas_raga...@hotmail.com>; Sadheesh Poobalan <sadhee...@gmail.com>
Cc: MalaysianIndianC...@yahoogroups.com; Tan Sri Ramon Navaratnam <navarat...@sunway.com.my>; Tan Sri Lee Lam Thye <lamthye...@yahoo.com>; T. Mohan - MIC Youth <t.mo...@pemudamic.org>
Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 2:15:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Indian-Malaysian] from subra..... ms saroja

Dear Bro VP,

I agree with your suggestion and I suggest other members to look into this possibility rather than we bank into their account directly. We have done that and came across many problems later where they will try to hide actual amount of donation received and all kind of issues.
Or why not we form a group or team among ourselves and we move from there. "Charity Starts from Home"
Thank you.

SJ

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From:  vell paari samyvellu <vellpa...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:54:06 +0800
To: <Indian-Malays...@yahoogroups.com>; subra_nalini subra<subra_nal...@yahoo.com.my>; Vejay Chin<vejay.c...@yahoo.com>
Cc: <MalaysianIndianC...@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Indian-Malaysian] from subra..... ms saroja

Dear Brother Vejay,

One of our MIC Youth boy have spoken to her mother and the mother requested him to visit them later part of the evening. I will find a solution for her medical treatment, her son's education, accommodation issue and daily needs. These issues have to be sorted out first while looking into welfare issue, for welfare might take time.

My advice in regards to raising funds for ms.saroja, better open a kind of a trust account to deposit the funds and have it managed by your members. You can maybe help to clear some of her debt and instruct the bank to transfer a certain amount into her account every month. Because if news gets out she suddenly has at least Rm50k in her account, unscrupulous  wolves might be attracted to them. All three might become they prey. Please believe me, I have seen it happening. Also It will be difficult for us to seek more welfare aid with her having at least Rm50k in the bank.

Regards

Paari

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:31 PM, subra_nalini subra <subra_nalini@ yahoo.com. my> wrote:

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Sri,

You can can sit down and talk and plan, but don't stop those people who sympathize with her condition willing to help by donating some fund directly to her account without going through all these trust fund mechanism. It is easy said but no one will do. The bad news is; Today I received a call at 9.00pm from her mother saying that Saroja's face is swollen one side and had fits...She told me someone called to inform her that Bernama is visiting her tomorrow evening, anyway all are free to visit her to help. Go see for yourself and stop complaining online.....she badly needs help.

 United We Stand Divided We Fall
One Mind - One Goal - One Vision - One Voice
Stand Up For Justice - Fight Till the End
Do Not Fear - BE UNITED ALWAYS

________________________________
From: SJ <s_...@yahoo.com>
To: subra_nalini subra <subra_nal...@yahoo.com.my>; Malaysian Indian Group <Indian-Malays...@yahoogroups.com>; Vejay Chin <vejay.c...@yahoo.com>; VellPaari <s.vellpa...@yahoo.com>; Nivas Ragavan <nivas_raga...@hotmail.com>; Sadheesh Poobalan <sadhee...@gmail.com>; Tan Sri Ramon Navaratnam <navarat...@sunway.com.my>; Tan Sri Lee Lam Thye <lamthye...@yahoo.com>; T. Mohan - MIC Youth <t.mo...@pemudamic.org>
Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 5:34:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Indian-Malaysian] from subra..... ms saroja

Dear Subra,

Thanks for your email. Its good to have a trust fund within us but at the same time collecting money without proper accounting or registered organisation is totally against the Law. Moreover, although all this is done for the poor and needy but we must also should have it audited and accounts must be well kept.
All this must be done in proper supervision and lawfully so that no one can take us for a ride.
Thank you.

SJ

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From:  subra_nalini subra <subra_nal...@yahoo.com.my>
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:46:22 +0800 (SGT)
To: <s_...@yahoo.com>; Malaysian Indian Group<Indian-Malays...@yahoogroups.com>; subra_nalini subra<subra_nal...@yahoo.com.my>; Vejay Chin<vejay.c...@yahoo.com>; VellPaari<s.vellpa...@yahoo.com>; Nivas Ragavan<nivas_raga...@hotmail.com>; Sadheesh Poobalan<sadhee...@gmail.com>; Tan Sri Ramon Navaratnam<navarat...@sunway.com.my>; Tan Sri Lee Lam Thye<lamthye...@yahoo.com>; T. Mohan - MIC Youth<t.mo...@pemudamic.org>
Subject: Re: [Indian-Malaysian] from subra..... ms saroja

hi sir SJ_sri and VP, sir Vellpaari also it's good to form a charity fund among us and help the people who need it.so can we come up with this?

--- On Sat, 24/10/09, SJ <s_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

To day morning at 10.00 am I visited Saroja to get some details of which I post it here...She looks ok but face on the right side is still swollen and she is having pain on right side....As she is having epilepsy, fits is frequent nowadays...since loosing her job and to meet post operation needs she and her mother doing home run job ie shouldering tiny cips to circuit boards to earn some money. Quite a stressful job for a patient after brain surgery and she have to go through the pain to earn a living. Her rented flat where she stay with her sick mother and 6 yr old son is neatly kept, in onecorner there is a small table with 2 unit of shouldering machine to do thier stressful job.....see atached photos.

Note : I don't force anyone here to donate but to those who are kind enough can do so in whatever way possible to help this young & beautiful lady to continue with her life.

Her account No : Maybank 112344304856 Saroja Raman
Tel: 016-3711587 Saroja/ Anjalai (mother)

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As promised Bernama reporters paid Saroja a visit and recorded an interview which will be broadcast today 25/10/2009 at 7.00 pm Bernama News Channel 502.

To those who wanted to see the truth before helping. Kindly watch the news today...

 United We Stand Divided We Fall
One Mind - One Goal - One Vision - One Voice
Stand Up For Justice - Fight Till the End
Do Not Fear - BE UNITED ALWAYS

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From: Vejay Chin <vejay.c...@yahoo.com>
To: IndianMalaysianRig...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, October 25, 2009 12:13:47 PM
Subject: [malaysianequalrights] Re: [IndianMalaysianRights] Re: [Indian-Malaysian] from subra..... ms saroja

To day morning at 10.00 am I visited Saroja to get some details of which I post it here...She looks ok but face on the right side is still swollen and she is having pain on right side....As she is having epilepsy, fits is frequent nowadays...since loosing her job and to meet post operation needs she and her mother doing home run job ie shouldering tiny cips to circuit boards to earn some money. Quite a stressful job for a patient after brain surgery and she have to go through the pain to earn a living. Her rented flat where she stay with her sick mother and 6 yr old son is neatly kept, in onecorner there is a small table with 2 unit of shouldering machine to do thier stressful job.....see atached photos.

Note : I don't force anyone here to donate but to those who are kind enough can do so in whatever way possible to help this young & beautiful lady to continue with her life.

Her account No : Maybank 112344304856 Saroja Raman
Tel: 016-3711587 Saroja/ Anjalai (mother)

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Bro SJ,

Don't simply hentam online. Have you visited Saroja personally? If you have done, she would told you the whole story about my involvement. Anyway leave that aside. I am not interested in getting famous...

I agree MIC Selangor visited Saroja today and
promised some help for the family and promised to arrange the second operation for Saroja in UH. Promise only you know.....I wait for the outcome. I have discussed this matter with Bro V Paari and he promised to look into the matter by sending the Selangor MIC chief immediately....

Saroja even told me, that Bernama reporters visited her home and recorded an interview in her rented flat supposed to have broadcast in todays 7.00pm news but it did not.

Can you prove that MIC Youth Leader, Mr T Mohan funded the
1st operation in full? The next time get your facts right before posting on sensitive matters.

I thank you for your concern...

VJ

 United We Stand Divided We Fall
One Mind - One Goal - One Vision - One Voice
Stand Up For Justice - Fight Till the End
Do Not Fear - BE UNITED ALWAYS

________________________________
From: SJ <s_...@yahoo.com>
To: Malaysian Indian Group <Indian-Malays...@yahoogroups.com>; VellPaari <s.vellpa...@yahoo.com>; Tan Sri Ramon Navaratnam <navarat...@sunway.com.my>; Nivas Ragavan <nivas_raga...@hotmail.com>; Sadheesh Poobalan <sadhee...@gmail.com>; Hindraf <hind...@yahoogroups.com>; Datuk Vaithilingam <vai...@hindusangam.org.my>
Sent: Sun, October 25, 2009 7:22:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Indian-Malaysian] from subra..... ms saroja

Dear Brother Vejay,

It is always easy to talk and complaint by sitting on a nice sofa at home facing your computer but we have been facing the problems and the people on our daily life. We know what is the pain and what is what. Brother, action is always louder than words and we have be in action all this while. We just don't talk and complaint online but we do it on the field. Have you visited Saroja? What is the actual situation? Do you know?

Saroja called me to say that she was informed by Bernama that the interview will be broadcast today 27/10/2009 at 7.00 pm Bernama News Channel 502.
 United We Stand Divided We Fall
One Mind - One Goal - One Vision - One Voice
Stand Up For Justice - Fight Till the End
Do Not Fear - BE UNITED ALWAYS

To those who have missed the news, can still watch the clip in YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmJcUCPhz0Y

 United We Stand Divided We Fall
One Mind - One Goal - One Vision - One Voice
Stand Up For Justice - Fight Till the End
Do Not Fear - BE UNITED ALWAYS

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From: Poobalan <mpooba...@gmail.com>
To: malaysianequalrig...@yahoogroups.co.uk
Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 7:22:58 PM
Subject: Re: [malaysianequalrights] Fw: Please Help Saroja A Brain Tumor  Patient

yup, just caught it in time.

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Vejay Chin <vejay.chin@yahoo. com> wrote:

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