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dlutfiah lutfi  
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 More options 8 Nov 2006, 16:34
From: dlutfiah lutfi <dlutf...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 08:34:18 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed 8 Nov 2006 16:34
Subject: SCIENTISTS ON THE QURAN

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            SCIENTISTS ON THE QU'RAN

  Allah  says in many places like given here in under in His Holy Scriptures (interpretation of the meaning):

  Ų       “There are indeed Signs for men of understanding”. (Al-Imran: 190)
        Those are symbols and reminders of the glorious majesty of Allah  and His goodness to man.
  Ų       “Truly, in this, is a Message of remembrance to men of understanding”. (Az-Zumar:21)
         Here is a Sign of the grace and goodness of Allah, clear to those who understand.
  Ų       “A Guide and a Reminder to men of understanding”. (Gafir;54)

  There is NO EXCUSE for us to go astray, seeing that Allah  in His infinite Mercy has explained to us His Message by His many Signs around us.

  Dr. Keith L. Moore                  Professor Emeritus, Department of Anatomy and Cell Biology, University of Toronto. Distinguished embryologist and the author of several medical textbooks, including Clinically Oriented Anatomy (3rd Edition) and The Developing Human (5th Edition, with T.V.N. Persaud).

    Investigations in to the 'alaqa or leech-like stage.

                Dr. Moore was a former President of the Canadian Association of Anatomists, and of the American Association of Clinical Anatomists. He was honoured by the Canadian Association of Anatomists with the prestigious J.C.B. Grant Award and in 1994 he received the Honoured Member Award of the American Association of Clinical Anatomists "for outstanding contributions to the field of clinical anatomy."

"For the past three years, I have worked with the Embryology Committee of King cAbdulazīz University in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, helping them to interpret the many statements in the Qur'ān and Sunnah referring to human reproduction and prenatal development. At first I was astonished by the accuracy of the statements that were recorded in the 7th century AD, before the science of embryology was established. Although I was aware of the glorious history of Muslim scientists in the 10th century AD, and some of their contributions to Medicine, I knew nothing about the religious facts and beliefs contained in the Qur'ān and Sunnah."[2]

At a conference in Cairo he presented a research paper and stated:

"It has been a great pleasure for me to help clarify statements in the Qur'ān about human development. It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God, or Allah, because most of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later. This proves to me that Muhammad must have been a messenger of God, or Allah." [1]

Professor Moore also stated that:

"...Because the stag ing of human embryos is complex, owing to the continuous process of change during development, it is proposed that a new system of classification could be developed using the terms mentioned in the Qur'ān and Sunnah. The proposed system is simple, comprehensive, and conforms with present embryological knowledge.

"The intensive studies of the Qur'ān and Hadīth in the last four years have revealed a system of classifying human embryos that is amazing since it was recorded in the seventh century A.D... the descriptions in the Qur'ān cannot be based on scientific knowledge in the seventh century..."[1]

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  Dr. E. Marshall Johnson              Professor and Chairman of the Department of Ana tomy and Developmental Biology, and Director of the Daniel Baugh Institute, Thomas Jefferson University, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA.

                Author of over 200 publications. Former President of the Teratology Society among other accomplishments. Professor Johnson began to take an interest in the scientific signs in the Qur'ān at the 7th Saudi Medical Conference (1982), when a special committee was formed to investigate scientific signs in the Qur'ān and Hadīth. At first, Professor Johnson refused to accept the existence of such verses in the Qur'ān and Hadīth. But after a dicussuion with Sheikh Zindanī he took an interest and concentrated his research on the internal as well as external development of the fetus.

"...in summary, the Qur'ān describes not only the development of external form, but emphasises also the internal stages, the stages inside the embryo, of its creation and development, emphasising major events recognised by contemporary science."

"As a scientist, I can only deal with things which I can specifically see. I can understand embryology and developmental biology. I can understand the words that are translated to me from the Qur'ān. As I gave the example before, if I were to transpose myself into that era, knowing what I do today and describing things, I could not describe the things that were described...

I see no evidence to refute the concept that this individual Muhammad had to be developing this information from some place... so I see nothing here in conflict with the concept that divine intervention was involved in what he was able to write..." [1]

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    Dr. Joe Leigh Simpson

                Professor and Chairman of the Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, USA.

                He is the President of the American Fertility Society. He has received many awards, including the Association of Professors of Obstetrics and Gynaecology Public Recognition Award in 1992. Like many others, Professor Simpson was taken by surprise when he discovered that the Qur'ān and Hadīth contain verses related to his specialised field of study. When he met with Sheikh Abdul-Majeed A.Zindanī, he insisted on verifying the text presented to him from the Qur'ān and Hadīth.

"... these Hadīths (sayings of Muhammad) could not have been obtained on the basis of the scientific knowledge that was available at the time of the 'writer'... It follows that not only is there no conflict between genetics and religion (Islām) but in fact religion (Islām) may guide science by adding revelation to some of the traditional scientific approaches... There exist statements in the Qur'ān shown centuries later to be valid which support knowledge in the Qur'ān having been derived from God." [1]

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    Gerald C. Goeringer

                Professor and Co-ordinator of Medical Embryology in the Department of Cell Biology, School of Medicine, Georgetown University , Washington DC, USA.

                Sheikh cAbdul-Majeed A.Zindanī met with Professor Goeringer and asked him whether in the history of embryology was there any mention of the different stages of embryonic development, or whether there existed any embryological texts at the time of the Prophet. Sheikh Zindanī also asked his opinion regarding the terms the Qur'ān uses to describe the different phases of fetal development. After several long discussions, he presente d a study at the 8th Saudi Medical Conference:

"...In a relatively few ayahs (Qur'ānic verses) is contained a rather comprehensive description of human development from the time of commingling of the gametes through organogenesis. No such distinct and complete record of human development such as classification, terminology, and description existed previously. In most, if not all instances, this description antedates by many centuries the recording of the various stages of human embryonic and fetal development recorded in the traditional scientific literature." [1]

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    Dr. Alfred Kroner

              Professor o f the Department of Geosciences, University of Mainz, Germany.

                Professor Kroner is one of the world's most famous geologists, becoming well known among his colleague scientists for his criticisms against the theories of some of the major scientists in his field. Sheikh cAbdul-Majeed A. Zindanī met with him and presented several Qur'ānic verses and Hadīth which he studied and commented upon.

"Thinking where Muhammad came from... I think it is almost impossible that he could have known about things like the common origin of the universe, because scientists have only found out within the last few years with very complicated and advanced technological methods that this is the case."

"Somebody who did not know something about nuclear physics 1400 years ago could not, I think, be in a position to find out from his own mind for instance that the earth and the heavens had the same origin, or many others of the questions that we have discussed here...

If you combine all these and you combine all these statements that are being made in the Qur'ān in terms that relate to the earth and the formation of the earth and science in general, you can basically say that statements made there in many ways are true, they can now be confirmed by scientific methods, and in a way, you can say that the Qur'ān is a simple science text book for the simple man. And that many of the statements made in there at that time could not be proven, but that modern scientific methods are now in a position to prove what Muhammad said 1400 years ago." [1]

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    Dr. Yushidi Kusan

            Director of the Tokyo Observatory, Tokyo, Japan.

                Sheikh cAbdul-Majeed A. Zindanī presented a number of Qur'ānic verses describing the beginnings of the universe and of the heavens, and the relationship of the earth to the heavens. He expressed his astonishment, saying that
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 More options 10 Nov 2006, 02:00
From: "Shiva" <shiva_...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:00:50 -0800
Local: Fri 10 Nov 2006 02:00
Subject: Re: SCIENTISTS ON THE QURAN
Dlutfiah Lutfi,

A small panadol for your terribly brainwashed poisoned mind. I know
there is no turning back for you, but hey, we can always try cold
turkey, the Sang kancil way.

Science in quran.

Can poison be food to someone? Until scientists discovered the
photosynthesis of trees, many may not have believed that it was
possible. A person would die in a room full of carbon dioxide; yet
trees blissfully absorb carbon dioxide and release oxygen, which, of
course, helps other creatures to survive. Michael Dombeck, a former
forest service chief in the US , estimated that a tree with 18 inches
in diameter may generate enough oxygen for a family of four.

Everyone knows this simple science. What people don't know is that
Titus Lucretius Carus (c.99-55 BC), a Roman poet and philosopher,
predicted the whole phenomenon 2000 years ago. I am fascinated by
Lucretius' anti-religious comments. He wisely stated, "So potent
was religion in persuading to evil deeds." Anyway, it's not about
his religious conviction but his prophetic comment in regards to
photosynthesis. He foretold, "What is food to one, is to others
bitter poison."

I take full responsibility of making this story up, as ridiculous as it
can be. This logic has no merit and it does not make any sense unless
we perceive the situation with an Islamic mind.

Yes, many pseudo-scientists of Islam purposely find scientific formulas
in the Quran. There is one, Harun Yahya, whose spontaneous explanation
of Quranic verses in the light of science would make my story
authentic. Harun Yahya, whose actual name is Adnan Okter, claims to
have 'intel inside', making him an intellectual. We, the apostates
of Islam, have a reason for hiding behind phony names. After all, there
are people--believers of a 7th century Samurai, wearing black ninja
dress with double-edged sword-- looking for us. It's not clear why
Adnan Okter started with a fictitious name. Only one explanation makes
sense: most likely he was not confident of what he was writing, and he
feared that people would throw rotten eggs after reading his Qi-fi
(Quranic fiction) books.

Harun Yahya wrote hundreds of books and Muslims received them with
great enthusiasm. After gaining enough confidence, Adnan Okter, aka
Harun Yahya, came out from the dark and became a well-known author. He
also maintains a website where a great many articles are published,
explaining the hidden meanings of the Quran.

In one of his articles, "The Information Network in Dolphins is
Superior to the Internet", he cites the study of a New Zealand
researcher who discovered the communication system of animal
communities. Lusseau, the researcher, observed a group of dolphins and
compared the method with the Internet network system. Harun Yahya,
without hesitation, claimed, "....the flow of information on the
Internet shows the existence of a superior intellect that regulates the
information network in dolphins and many other similar living things in
nature. There can be no doubt but that this superior intellect is that
of the Omniscient, Almighty God."

Now, the question is which God? Is it the God of Muslims, is it the God
of Hindus, or is it the God of Christians? Harun Yahya tries to prove
his God, Allah's handy work on the information network, and picks one
verse from the Quran that says, ""Truly your Lord is the Almighty,
the Most Merciful" (Qur'an, 26:9). How does this verse relate to the
discovery of the New Zealand researcher?

In another article, "The Secret of How Spiders Walk on Ceilings",
Harun Yahya explains how spiders hang from the ceiling. A human head
holds about 100,000 hairs but there are 600,000 hairs under a
spider's foot. These hairs with triangular tips create an adhesive
force, enough to support 173 times of its own body weight. To support
his argument, Harun brings another verse, "God created every animal
from water. Some of them go on their bellies, some of them on two legs,
and some on four. God creates whatever He wills. God has power over all
things" (Qur'an, 24:45).

Three cheers for scientist Allah! Until Quranic verses were revealed,
no one knew that animals walk on four legs, humans walk on two legs and
alligators walk on their bellies! Probably an infant of the Stone Age
knew these facts, yet Yahya gives credit to Allah for his miraculous /
ridiculous statement. Interestingly, Allah even forgot to mention
spiders, that hang from the ceiling and have more than four legs, but
Yahya quotes this verse while keeping a straight face.

More importantly, according to all Muslims, credit goes to Allah but it
never has been proved that Allah has done anything for mankind. It's
like the rooster who claimed that the sun would not rise until he
crows. Our Muslim intellectuals never realize that the sun will rise
whether Mr. Rooster crows or not. Likewise, life goes on whether Allah
brays or not.

Yahya sings the impact of prayer in another article, "How prayer
accelerates the treatment of the sick". He talks about an article in
Newsweek magazine, which was published as a cover story in November of
2003. It was an interesting article. Although skeptics had legitimate
opposing views, many believed that prayer facilitates recovery. Yahya
utilized the article to establish the importance of Islamic prayer. He
guarantees a pie in the sky and conveniently quotes a verse from the
Quran: "Call on me and I will answer you. Those who are too proud to
worship me will enter Hell abject" (Qur'an, 40:60).

The verse in question has a two-fold problem. First, Newsweek magazine
talked about Christians and their system of prayer. If the article is
true, Yahya should immediately convert to Christianity and start
praising Jesus. He unknowingly admitted that the power of Christians'
prayer is effective, too. Yahya further claims that sickness is a test
and one should thank Allah for the treatment received by doctors and
nurses. Thanking Allah and ignoring the hard work of nurses and doctors
is nothing but plain ungratefulness.

Second, in the above-mentioned verse, Allah has guaranteed that he will
respond if he is worshipped. We can safely assume that there are at
least one million out of 1.2 billion Muslims who pray to Allah
faithfully. Why doesn't Allah answer their calls? Apparently, Muslim
countries are sinking in ignorance and poverty, whereas non-Muslim
countries are prospering in all aspects. Either Allah is favoring those
Kafir countries deliberately or he must have become a Jew or a
Christian.

Yahya solicits friendship between people of the book, i.e., Muslims,
Jews and Christians in another article, "Anti-Semitism is Racism".
He lies blatantly and states, "According to the Quran, Muslims, Jews
and Christians must live in friendship". He was not joking and made
the comment in a serious note. However, he conveniently forgot to
mention that Mohammad slaughtered 700-800 Jews in Medina, only to test
how sharp his sword was. He does not mention Allah's command to not
make any friends with Jews and Christians (Q5.51). Yahya is digging his
own grave; hell will be his abode and Allah will hang his skeleton from
the sky. How could he make friends with Christians and Jews, when Allah
clearly prohibited this?

Yahya not only stressed for unity among the people of the book, he also
recommended making friends with idolaters. He continued, "In many
verses, friendship is recommended even with the idolaters."
Interestingly, it did not take long for him to show his ferocious
teeth. He advised reading another of his websites:
"islamandbuddhism.com". He beats his brain out to understand why
some people of western societies are attracted to Buddhism - an Eastern
belief and philosophy. He begs us to read his site, saying, "Read the
perverted philosophy of Buddhism in this site."

This is the pot calling the kettle black. Buddhism may not be a great
religion but it does not call for killing the believers of other
religions. Neither Buddha slept with concubines. So, Yahya decides to
call Buddhism a perverted religion but he fails to see the perverted
character of Mohammad.

Are these Muslim intellectuals sincerely attempting to reform Islam? Do
they really believe what they write? An honest answer would be,
"NO". They know it very well. The Quran is not compatible with the
values of modern civilization, science and human rights. They try to
use logic but it ends up with tragic consequences. Logic has no place
in faith. Logical argument requires absolute proof but proof is
irrelevant in faith. When Islamists, the advocates of absurdities, use
logic to prove pesky Quranic verses, it only becomes a laughable farce.


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 More options 10 Nov 2006, 02:08
From: "Shiva" <shiva_...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:08:10 -0800
Local: Fri 10 Nov 2006 02:08
Subject: Re: SCIENTISTS ON THE QURAN
Dlutfiah Lutfi,

Clouded minds will agree with the blind, on an equal platform. Prof.
Moore has been rebutted by many internationally. His level of thinking
and answering has even shocked 6 year olds. Just for the fun of it
before you wake up from this terrible nightmare.

here goes.( So much for Islamic science....)

Prepared by: Syed Kamran Mirza

Special Note: Quranic ayats are taken mostly from translated Quran by
Maulana A. Yousuf Ali and Maulana Muhiuddin Khan.

Numerical contradictions

There are many numerical contradictions in the Quran. Can God make so
much error in doing simple calculations?

How many days did it take to create Heavens and Earth ?

Quran 7: 54 Your gurdian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and
earth in Six Days

Quran 10: 3 Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and
earth in Six Days

Quran 11:7 He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran-25:29: He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is
between, in Six Days

The above verses clearly state that God created the heaven and Allah
created the heaven and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below stated
-

Quran 41: 9 Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?

Quran 41: 10 He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above
it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things
to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS...

Quran 41: 12 So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two
days and ...

Now do the math: 2(for earth) + 4(for nourishment) + 2 (for heavens) =
8 days; and not 6 days

Similar mistakes you can see in the verse: Quran 4: 11 - 12, and Quran
4: 176 in inheritance law. In these verses one can see the total
property after adding all distributed parties adds up more than the
available property, i.e., totals become more than 1 which are: 1.125
and 1.25. How come ? A gross mathematical errors, is not it ?

Allah's Days Equal to 1000 Years or 50,000 Years?

Quran 22: 47 A day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of
your reckoning.

Quran-32:5: To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousands
years of your rekoning

Quran 70: 4 The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the
measure whereof is Fifty thousands years.

So, which one is it? Is the day of Allah equal to 1,000 earth years or
50,000 earth years?

Creation of the Heaven and Earth

Which one was created first? As you will see in the verses below, Allah
at one time says that Earth was created first and another time he says
that the Heaven was created first.

Quran 2: 29 It is He who hath created for you all things that are on
Earth; THEN He turned to the Heaven and made them into seven firmaments
(Skies)....

Quran 79: 27 - 30 Are you the harder to create, or is the heaven that
He built? He raised the height thereof and ordered it; and He has made
dark the night thereof, and He brought forth the morning thereof. And
after that, He spread (flattened) the earth

Now, does it match modern science? Do you believe that, Earth was
created first, after that, God created Heaven? Modern science tells us
that? Or How come SEVEN firmaments (layers)? Modern science tells us
that, actually there is no such thing Sky is no "roof" over us. It
is only a space with no known boundary at all. These verses simply
reinforce the ancient idea of ROOF over us which is called SKY, is it
not so? How funny!

Sun-set and Sun-rise

Koran teaches us that the Sun sets in a muddy spring:

Quran 18: 86 Till, when he (the traveller Zul-qarnain) reached the
setting-place of the Sun, he found it going down into a muddy spring...

Quran 18: 90 Till, when he reached the rising-place of the Sun, he
found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter from
it.

Serious scientific errors here! Firstly, it is scientifically accepted
fact that, the Sun never go down in a muddy spring. Secondly, this
seems to presuppose a FLAT Earth, otherwise how can there be an extreme
point in the West or in the East? A sunrise there would be basically
just the same as at any other place on this earth, at land or sea. It
would still look as if it is setting "far away". It does say, that
he reached THE PLACE where the Sun sets and in his second Journey the
place where it rises.

A resting place for Sun!?

Quran 36: 38 And the sun runneth on unto a resting place for him. That
is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise.
Quran 36: 39 And for the moon We have appointed mansions till she
return like an old shrivelled palm leaf.
Quran 36: 40 It is not for Sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night
outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.

Allah is indeed a big scientist. Where is sun and where is moon
situated? Can anybody tell me how they could collide/meet/overtake each
other? Are the sun and the moon neighbors to each other? I have the
answer for this error: Ancient Allah saw (bare eye observations) sun
and moon traveling from east to west seemingly in the same Sky area or
same path, without colliding, causing day and night etc. Allah hardly
could imagine that all these phenomena are simply due to Earth's
rotation and NOT by Sun's rotation. Sun is stationary for Earth,
because earth is stuck in the sun's Gravity, like we are stuck in
earth's gravity. Allah never says any where in the whole Quran that,
EARTH ROTATES. Perhaps Allah could not feel earth's rotation.

A resting place for sun WAS CONFIRMED BY HADITHS?

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 421
Sahih Bukhari Hadiths: Abzur Ghifari (ra) narrated: one day Prophet
Mohammad (pbuh) asked me, "Abzar do you know after setting where does
Sun go?" I replied, I do not know, only Allah's apostle can say
better. Then Prophet (SA) replied, "After setting, the sun remains
prostrated under Allah's Aro'sh and waits for Allah's command for
rising again in the East. Day will come when sun will not get
permission to rise again and Qeyamot will fall upon Earth".

Can anybody tell me what is it? It was the superstitious belief of
ancient people reflected in the Quran and Hadiths by Allah. A
10-year-old boy would not tell such fairy tale story today.

Why Allah Created Stars!

Quran gives us further scientific knowledge by telling us that the
stars were created by Allah as missiles to throw at the devils:

Quran 67: 5 And We have (from of old) adorned the lowest heaven (sky)
with lamps, and We have made such (Lamps as) missiles to drive away
Satans...

Quran 37: 6-8 We have indeed decorated the lower heaven (sky) with
beauty (in) the stars, (for beauty) and for guard against all obstinate
rebellious Satans. So they should not strain their ears in the
direction of the Exalted Assembly but be cast away from every side.

Thus, the stars are nothing but missiles to throw at devils so that
they may not eavesdrop on the heavenly council. Once again we find how
Allah was high on his superstitious weirdness.

Is Sky/Heaven A ROOF or Canopy Over the Earth?

Quran 21: 32 And We have made the sky a roof withheld (from them). Yet
they turn away from its portents.

Quran 31: 10 He hath created the heavens (Skies) without supports
(pillars) that ye can see, and hath cast into the earth firm
Mountains/Hills, so that it quake not with you; and He hath
dispersed...

Quran 2: 22: Who has made the earth your couch, And the heavens (Sky)
your canopy

Modern science tells us- whole thing around the earth is space and
there is no boundary even if we go Billions of light years away in all
directions. Questions are: When there is no sky above us then how in
the world, it needs pillars for support? Do we really have a roof above
us? Is there a canopy above the Earth? Is there anything called above
or beneath us? Are mountains there to prevent Earth from shaking? Give
me a break!

Once again Allah considered sky as roof over the Earth, which will
broke/shattered during dooms day

Quran 78: 19 And the heavens (sky) Shall be broken (opened) as if there
were doors opens...

Quran 82: 1 When the Sky is cleft asunder

Quran 69: 16 And the sky will be Rent asunder, for it will That day be
flimsy (soft)

Quran 81: 2 When the stars fall, losing their luster.

Yousuf Ali comments in his Tafsir: beautiful blue-sky overhead (which
we take for granted in sunshine) will be shattered to pieces. Modern
science tells us that there is no such thing as roof/sky or any canopy
over the Earth; rather all around Earth is a limitless space. Only
Allah knows what will break/shatter or will get soft/flimsy or how
doors will open , there is no walls, where from doors will come? In
some Ayats Allah threatened kafirs by saying: "I (Allah) will throw
broken pieces of sky over your head."

Does Sun Rotate Around the Earth?

Quran 31: 29 Seest thou not that Allah merges Night into Day and He
merges Day into Night; That He has subjected the sun and moon (to His
law), each running its course for a term (time) appointed.

Quran 21: 33 It is He who created The Night and Day, And the Sun and
Moon; each of them Swim (float) along in its own course.

Ayats mentioned above could be found over and over again and again
almost in every pages of Quran. Because, Allah standing in the open
Arab desert saw very well that, every morning SUN is rising from the
East and gradually (appointed time or fixed time) setting to the West,
and as a result, day and night follows. Allah truly mentioned this
wrong knowledge (sun moving) of pre-historic people. Every time Allah
mentioned Sun & Moon, He mentioned day & night, as if it is due to
sun's movement day and night follows. But surprisingly, all the
hypocrite Mullahs giving false credit to Allah by saying: look Quran
told about sun's movement 1400 years ago which modern science only
found out now. In real world, sun takes 225 millions of years to make
just one complete circle through the solar Universe. And obviously this
movement of sun has nothing to do with DAY & NIGHT of the earth.
Actually, Sun is
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 More options 10 Nov 2006, 02:24
From: "gnh" <g...@pc.jaring.my>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:24:52 +0800
Local: Fri 10 Nov 2006 02:24
Subject: RE: [sangkancil] Re: SCIENTISTS ON THE QURAN
Astronomy for DUMBOS ?

Aiyo no wonder lah, so smart people everywhere .....

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