bossh...@acedsl.com wrote: > Phil M. wrote: >> 4/15/06 McNaughton Park Trail Runs 50-Miler, Pekin IL
> Whoa ho there! As a onetime Illini (that name meaning "superior men", > from a confederation of tribes who once made it home), I've heard of > this town. And their infamous one-time mascot. Hard to believe, but > they really used to be the Pekin ... well ... > http://www.halcyon.com/marcs/mascotdrop.html
lol. I seem to recall that from my Bradley University days.
Tony S. wrote: > While it was nice for training having a warm winter, it just isn't > right somehow, so the snow is welcome. Seeing small cornices forming along > the cliffs on the ski trek today was worth it. A view from my crummy phone > cam of it: http://i1.tinypic.com/nosd1g.jpg along the edge of a 450' cliff > above the Hudson river.
I can't say I'm jealous. Here's a picture from my run yesterday (not of me since I had the camera). Note the sky and attire. Just another day in paradise :-) http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=nowl6x
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Mon: 8.5k easy grass Tue: 11.5k track, including 6 x 800m (200m jog, 200m walk) from 3:25 to 3:09 at 75-85% Max HR. 20' bike Wed: 7k easy grass. 30' bike Thu: off Fri: 13k easy 1/2 on grass. Sat: off Sun: 7k easy grass.
Total: 47km (29 miles).
Anthony. Jerusalem, Israel. where they're predicting snow in a few days...(a once every 2/3 years phenomenon)
"Phil M." <pm...@charter.net> wrote in message > Since you normally start the training week thread on Saturday, I think > Charlie just got a little antsy. I guess you can blame it on all the snow > in New York. I thought about following up to your post, but I saw everyone > was already posting on Charlies thread. ;-(
I've started the thread on Sunday for about a year now, maybe a little longer. I did it on Saturday for the first few years.
> I can't say I'm jealous. Here's a picture from my run yesterday (not > of me since I had the camera). Note the sky and attire. Just another > day in paradise :-) > http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=nowl6x
If you keep showing pictures like this when we are snow bound, I'm going have to hurt you. My niece lives in San Diego throws little jabs at me while we enjoy the full effects of four seasons. :)
I always wondered if those that live in comfortable conditions all year don't take it granted. ;)
"Charlie Pendejo" <bossh...@acedsl.com> wrote in message > Hey David, I didn't mean to steal your thunder, but when you hadn't > posted so late in the day I figured maybe you were out having another > appendix removed or something.
I posted the training week on time when my appendix was removed, like every other week for the past 4 or so years.
SwStudio wrote: > I posted the training week on time when my appendix was > removed, like every other week for the past 4 or so years.
And I'm certain your consistency in starting this thread week in, week out is a huge factor in its having become an rr institution. You may have noticed, every seven days there's a whole bunch of us posting our weekly wrap-ups. It's useful on multiple levels: to see what others are doing, as a means of focus on where we've been and where we want to go, getting technical feedback, socializing, jokes, insults, reconciliations, new runner intros... so much of the rr drama, tragedy, and comedy centers around Training Week.
So, David, I hope you'll take this thread's importance and popularity as a testament to your diligence in keeping it going over the years (and your exceptionally good idea, if in fact you originated it). I'll assure you one last time, I've higher priority demands on my time and attention than "stealing" other people's threads. But since so many of us look forward to, and in a sense rely on, this weekly thread, I wouldn't hesitate to start the ball rolling some future week where it isn't already up by mid-afternoon. We all just want to check in with each other, post our training, put an X next to "post to training week" on our mental weekend checklists, and move on... that little piece of our weekends, at least, doesn't feel complete until it's done. And I bet it's not just me who will, given the opportunity, check back at intervals to see if the thread is started yet. So if you've been detained by some business or pleasure and haven't had time to post the traditional first message, please don't be offended if one of us fills in for a week.
52 miles bike and hike. weather was too say ice and cold and wet and mud and windy.above freezing below freezing. saw first bud yesterday Febuary 12-06. very snow.black and white. 42°N 83°W. pluto to south. big dipper to N.W. leo minor to n.w. Virgo to west Libra to s.w. scorpian to S. sagitarius to s.e. pegasus to E capella to N.E. and corn to N. and polarus. planets neptune east to west. mercury was and now west of sun. venus pluto south jupiter and mars to west. others on night side of view 42N 83 W.
were is E.T.
good question.
goal navagation learning. week 52 miles. u.s.a. math. well time latter
>... > isn't already up by mid-afternoon. We all just want to check in with > each other, post our training, put an X next to "post to training week" > on our mental weekend checklists, and move on... that little piece of > our weekends, at least, doesn't feel complete until it's done. And I > bet it's not just me who will, given the opportunity, check back at > intervals to see if the thread is started yet. So if you've been > detained by some business or pleasure and haven't had time to post the > traditional first message, please don't be offended if one of us fills > in for a week.
err, I admit I've checked back sometimes on Sunday, until the thread appears. It's definitely been a helpful part of my training to read other's logs, and might have helped me get out the door a few times when I didn't feel like it, in that it has helped me to be my own coach more objectively. For those taking Sunday off, the tendency is to want to post early; it's like a check-off, as Charlie suggested. Those whose time zones start earlier, Anthony, Anders, etc., have to wait longer since their Sunday is often over before the thread appears. For their sake, it would probably be best to post the thread on Saturday. In any case, thank you for your stewardship of the thread David.
> > While it was nice for training having a warm winter, it just isn't > > right somehow, so the snow is welcome. Seeing small cornices forming along > > the cliffs on the ski trek today was worth it. A view from my crummy phone > > cam of it: http://i1.tinypic.com/nosd1g.jpg along the edge of a 450' cliff > > above the Hudson river.
> I can't say I'm jealous. Here's a picture from my run yesterday (not of > me since I had the camera). Note the sky and attire. Just another day in > paradise :-) > http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=nowl6x
Looks nice and warm. But don't you get cottonmouthed running in that dry climate. Actually, I prefer running in tree cover, on brown dirt, in the eastern woodlands. I did enjoy running some out west on vacation a few years ago - I ran the famous Dipsea trail, and I ran a big loop on trails up Mt Tam and back down to the north, where there was a very pretty forrest and some good rough singletrack. But I hear you on the mostly sunny 24x365.24 availability...
Mon 0 dnr Tue 3.7 miles 10:36/mile avg. HR = 144 Wed 4.0 miles 09:44/mile avg. HR = 149 Thu 3.7 miles 10:20/mile avg. HR = 144 Fri 3.5 miles 09:50/mile avg. HR = 145 Sat 3.1 miles 14:03/mile avg. HR = 122 Sun 7.2 miles 10:43/mile avg. HR = 145
25.2 miles this week. Wednesday and Friday I picked up the pace a little bit (20 minutes and 10 minutes, respecively, at 80% to 85% Maximum Heart Rate), and Saturday was my "short slow distance" run with my daughter.
Sunday was a glorious 72°F in the green hills in my part of "superior" California -- first run in singlet since October! [Bugs Bunny voice on] Yeh, dat's a faw croi from Noo Yawk, wheh I hoid dey got twenny tree inches a *snow* in Central Pawk! [Bugs Bunny voice off]
I've been in a survive-the-winter base-building phase since early November 2005. Goal (again) for the coming week: run four to five hours during the week in the 70% to 80% Max Heart Rate range. -- Daniel deltaechom...@usa.net
> > It was a great week for running, even with all the ups and downs of > > life...
> > Mon: weights & core work > > Tues: 2 mile run > > Wed: sick, didn't work out > > Thur: 2 mile run > > Fri: didn't work out > > Sat: 2 mile run, weights & core work > > Sun: 4 mile run. This was my longest run yet!! I just got back and it > > felt great.
> Could be because of your forced rest (Zatopek effect). Were the missed > workouts running or lifting?
Lifting. I think my great longest run has more to do with my lungs finally catching up with my legs. I wasn't in bad shape when I started run; I've always been physically active, but it took a while to get my breathing down. I find I feel better when I do all of my workouts, including the lifting and core work. Since I did a lifting and core workout the day before my long run, I don't think skipping it Wed helped much.
I missed Wednesday becaues I have Meniere's Syndrome (fluid build up in inner ear) and it sometimes acts up to the point that the dizzyness is so bad I have to lay down. There's no cure and it's not serious, jut annoying and on rare occassions debilitating.
> > Weight loss: 14 pounds - I've stayed the same, but I'm not gaining and > > it feels great
> You're doing great! How many weeks have you been running?
I started Dec 26th. I started very slowly with running 2 min/walking 2 min, etc. and have been careful to build slowly.
joe positive wrote: > Thank you, Charles, for starting this thread.
> goals: keep dodging them bullets for another 5 weeks. Upcoming races: 15K > Feb 25; (maybe) half-marathon March 5; (probably) 5K March 11; marathon > March 19.
> M: AM 6mi elliptical, PM 6mi elliptical, whatta big bad bore
I don't know how people do it. Three years ago, I was doing a lot of rock & wall climbing and belonged to a climbing gym. I tried using the elliptical there, but I was too bored. But then, treadmills bore me to tears as well.
Goals: Grand Prix race series. Next is in April, but there are several other races in between including the AZ Distance Classic Half Marathon March 12th. Next race, Feb 26th, Dave's Run for ALS 5k. Keep up the once-weekly speedwork (done 4 weeks now), and keep from getting injured!!
Mon:6.3 im @ 8:34 pace. ~70F, breezy. I felt good, though sore from a mess o' vaccinations last Friday. Yoga in the evening. Tue: 5.25 mi on treadmill. One mile warmup, then 5 x 1/2 miles at 7:24 pace. First two "rests" were 1/2 miles @ 8:57, second two were 1/4 miles @ 8:30. (I was running out of time, so to speak). Felt really nice to open up some, though I do have a slightly stiff spot in my right ham. Wed: 5.52mi @ 8:45 pace. Nice weather! Felt really "correct" the first few miles. Thur: 6.3 mi @ 9:03 pace and RAINING! Only a trace but the first moisture in 106 days. Too bad it's not more, we really need it. But a blast to be able to run in it. Fri: Rest Day Sat: 5.52 mi very slow! Claude and I got into a very detailed discussion of solar physics! :-) Sun: A fine Valentine ~4.2 mi race! I ran great, 31:29 for ? distance. The miles were marked and seemed good, I averaged 7:26 pace. We took Claude's time and mine and came up with a distance of about 4.24 miles. They said it was 4.3, which made me running 7:19 miles. I sure would have had to have been COOKING to have made the first 4 miles at 7:26 then the last 0.3 miles make the average 7:19!! SO there is a definate ? over the total distance. But I know I PR'd anyway, I ran really well and passed one of the women I've only passed once before, when I ran the WAVA 71%. It gave me an AG 3rd, good for a gift cert to an Italian restaurant. So I'm going to collect info from a few freinds that ran it and see what kinds of numbers they have. Or take my bike out there and ride the course with the odometer.... I'm afraid I NEED to know how far it was in order to properly calculate my WAVA number. Ok, say it....yep I'm a geek....
joe positive wrote: > Sa: 11.8mi incl 10K race (40:58, a pr and 2F40), calf ok > a bit less running than I'd have liked, but the calf seems ok and that's > more important. The massage on Friday really helped, and I was able to race > yesterday and run on it today with no ill effects. > Karen
Congrats Karen!!! Great job, and really happy to hear the calf was OK and better now. You're really running some fast times now!
Goals: lose weight; prepare for a possible spring marathon
Felt great after 21 miles on Sunday so I went for another lap. A new training PB distance! I've lost about half the weight I want to lose; probably 4 more weeks until I stop trying. Wanted to run a 5K yesterday (Feb 12th) but decided it was probably not a good idea with the calorie deficit I'm currently running. I hate skipping races (especially flat ones), but I wasn't too thrilled with my time last year under the same dieting conditions.
SwStudio wrote: > "Charlie Pendejo" <bossh...@acedsl.com> wrote in message >> Hey David, I didn't mean to steal your thunder, but when you hadn't >> posted so late in the day I figured maybe you were out having another >> appendix removed or something.
> I posted the training week on time when my appendix was > removed, like every other week for the past 4 or so years.
David, it's not always easy to tell exactly what emotion a poster is trying to get across in usenet messages, particularly when the end every message with "cheers". On this occasion it sounds to me like you're ticked off for some reason.
You should be *glad* that the training week thread has a life of its own and isn't reliant on a single person to start it every week. The thread belongs to everyone, not the original poster. As the originator of the same thread on uk.rec.running I'm delighted when others start it off when I'm late or away.
Apologies if I've misread you but that's my reading of your messages.
<timdownie2...@obvious.yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >SwStudio wrote: >> "Charlie Pendejo" <bossh...@acedsl.com> wrote in message >>> Hey David, I didn't mean to steal your thunder, but when you hadn't >>> posted so late in the day I figured maybe you were out having another >>> appendix removed or something.
>> I posted the training week on time when my appendix was >> removed, like every other week for the past 4 or so years.
>David, it's not always easy to tell exactly what emotion a poster is trying >to get across in usenet messages, particularly when the end every message >with "cheers". On this occasion it sounds to me like you're ticked off for >some reason.
>You should be *glad* that the training week thread has a life of its own and >isn't reliant on a single person to start it every week. The thread belongs >to everyone, not the original poster. As the originator of the same thread >on uk.rec.running I'm delighted when others start it off when I'm late or >away.
>Apologies if I've misread you but that's my reading of your messages.
Thanks Charlie! Looks like I did get my second-ever over 70% WAVA - even with the course funniness. It's somewhere between 71.24 and 73% Now to see how the 5K goes, and I hope they measure well this time. I think the "secret" is the speed intervals, and I am planning to keep it up, believe me.
"Tim Downie" <timdownie2...@obvious.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > David, it's not always easy to tell exactly what emotion a poster is > trying to get across in usenet messages
If you believe that, then you are rather arrogant in tossing the adage aside for your own purposes, and you are also a hypocrite.
> Apologies if I've misread you but that's my reading of your messages.
You did. See above.
cheers, (which isn't an insult in my country or yours) -- David Hirsh, director www.urbanburn.com - half marathon, full throttle! www.absolutelyaccurate.com - Hamilton's summer series!
joe positive <kcoll...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >Sa: 11.8mi incl 10K race (40:58, a pr and 2F40), calf ok >Su: 12mi (8:53), calf still ok
Well a 10k PR (nice :-) after a dodgy calf week - so you are going to try fit regular massages into your schedule as a kind of maintenance ? Or is it too expensive (in time and/or money) ?
SwStudio wrote: > "Tim Downie" <timdownie2...@obvious.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message >> David, it's not always easy to tell exactly what emotion a poster is >> trying to get across in usenet messages
> If you believe that, then you are rather arrogant in tossing the > adage aside for your own purposes, and you are also a hypocrite.
Again, I don't understand you David. Are you say it *is* aways easy to understand what emotion folk are trying to convey? I can only speak for myself but I don't always find it easy to put into text exactly what I feel. I'm not that good a wordsmith. As for tossing it aside, I've never tried claiming any highground so less of the flippant "hypocrite" comments please.
Just so that we don't go round in pointless circles for ages, how about clarifying a simple point, were you ticked off by Charlie's post?
>> Apologies if I've misread you but that's my reading of your messages.
> You did. See above.
Well I'll have to take your word for it David but your OTT reaction speaks otherwise.
m - 1:00 LR, had to back off a little with a sore hip, core workout t - rest, core workout w - :45 "easy" tempo, core workout th - rest, core workout f - :45 run, core workout sa - core workout su - :45 swim, , core workout mon. feb. 13 - 1:20 LR, felt great
goals: continue with successful healthier eating plan.... more tuna wraps and salad and fewer hotdogs and chips and chocolate. am substituting dark chocolate for milk chocolate.... tastes great and MORE filling. May Half Marathon Aug. Olympic Distance Triathlon
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