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bozak  
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From: " bozak" <*****____boz...@gmail.com____*****>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:00:48 -0500
Local: Fri 6 Nov 2009 02:00
Subject: ot still looking for this fucking melting pot...
can somebody please help me find this melting pot that ive heard about for over 40 years now... you know, the one where america is
this huge happy place where people of all colors live together in harmony...

either this shit doesnt exist, or i got some really bad commercial from the seventies stuck in my head some how...

its amazing to me how when white people do crazy shit, nobody fucking says a word about do you think they did it because they were
white, and what is going on with white people doing such and such...

im so far ahead of my time it aint funny... i wish the whole world could enter my beige universe... then again those same people
would probably find some other ridiculous fucking reason to hate each other...

first it was the snooty professor and the overbearing cop, now its the "islamic" terrorist in the US military... neither was
probably because of skin color, im pretty sure both instances were brought on by people who in some way are just fucked up...

im just saying ive been waiting for flying cars and this fucking melting pot
shit since back in 1968 when i was at century park elementary school in inglewood and looked up in the sky and saw a 747 for the
first time... when i saw that big ass plane as an 8 year old i thought damn its great to be human, we can do anything... apparently
anything except for getting along...

oh well, just rodney king it!!!

--
those who sit on the fence get hit with rocks from both sides...

bozak


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From: " bozak" <*****____boz...@gmail.com____*****>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:02:51 -0500
Local: Fri 6 Nov 2009 02:02
Subject: Re: ot still looking for this fucking melting pot...

oh yeah, i want to dedicate this to my main man iceberg, cause homie, i think youre losing it, or
lost it a long time ago...

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From: "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:34:32 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ot still looking for this fucking melting pot...
On Nov 5, 6:02 pm, "       bozak" <*****____boz...@gmail.com____*****>
wrote:

Now The Man has a blackface to do his dirty work for him. The Black
Congressional Cacus just gave 'Tom' an 'F' for his presidency so far.
Colon Powell, Condelezza Rice, Barrack Obama. Black people can be
assholes too.
Obama--->Imperialist.
The material conditions for Black people in the US are getting worse
not better. Schools are more segregated than in 1969.
"We oughta be fed up by now. Turn the System upside down." --The Coup

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From: "iceberg" <rhan...@cox.net>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:56:50 -0700
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Subject: Re: ot still looking for this fucking melting pot...

> oh yeah, i want to dedicate this to my main man iceberg, cause homie, i
> think youre losing it, or
> lost it a long time ago...

Why thanks pal. Coming from a person who would probably kill Derek Fisher if
he got half the chance and has incredibly intolerant views of all
Republicans and the right, I value your opinion.

Iceberg


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From: Michael Fletcher <mfletc...@serverart.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:29:08 -0800
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Subject: Re: ot still looking for this fucking melting pot...

Well, there used to be Boyle Heights, but not so much anymore. Anyway
I'm gonna be honest and admit I only opened this thread because I saw
"pot" in the title and didn't bother reading the words before it. Bummer.

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From: " bozak" <*****____boz...@gmail.com____*****>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:13:58 -0500
Local: Fri 6 Nov 2009 09:13
Subject: Re: ot still looking for this fucking melting pot...

iceberg wrote:
>> oh yeah, i want to dedicate this to my main man iceberg, cause homie, i
>> think youre losing it, or
>> lost it a long time ago...

> Why thanks pal. Coming from a person who would probably kill Derek Fisher if
> he got half the chance and has incredibly intolerant views of all
> Republicans and the right, I value your opinion.

> Iceberg

yeah thats me intolerant of bigots...

kill derek fisher???  i think youve really lost it...


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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:58:06 +0100
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Subject: Re: ot still looking for this fucking melting pot...
 bozak schrieb:

> can somebody please help me find this melting pot that ive heard
> about for over 40 years now... you know, the one where america is
> this huge happy place where people of all colors live together in
> harmony...

Wait, it's not?

> either this shit doesnt exist, or i got some really bad commercial
> from the seventies stuck in my head some how...

There may be places where it's pretty close (or closer) to reality, but
they're usually infested by commies and other filthy people in blue
states or even worse: abroad. So don't go there.
And may I slip in the Immortal Tech quote du jour
"They may even have a black President but he's useless,
cos he'd does not control the economy, stupid."

Racial difference was institutionalized mainly due to economic interests
(somebody's gotta cut that sugar cane/pick that cotton and I sure as
fuck ain't going out into that scorching sun etc.) Then after a while,
being black was equal to being at the bottom. The white indendured
labourer's children had a better chance of making it upwards. And now
people are still shocked to find they're looking at a brown president or
a brown lawyer. Somehow not everybody's supposed to pursue their
happiness or vocation. Some should just duck down and shut it, it seems.

> im just saying ive been waiting for flying cars and this fucking
> melting pot shit since back in 1968 when i was at century park
> elementary school in inglewood and looked up in the sky and saw a 747
> for the first time... when i saw that big ass plane as an 8 year old
> i thought damn its great to be human, we can do anything...

In the early 80s, I was still looking forward to the robots and my own
little plane and especially that machine that could make/cook anything,
just push a button and out it comes.
Thanks for bringing that up. I'm still bitter.

Luca
--
"J'envoie énormement de MCs à l'ANPE."
- Akh


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From: mochaspresso <mochaspre...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:55:57 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ot still looking for this fucking melting pot...
On Nov 5, 9:00 pm, "       bozak" <*****____boz...@gmail.com____*****>
wrote:

Queens, NY.  Seriously.

Well, maybe highly segregated stew pot is a better description....but
it's the closest I've seen in my lifetime.


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From: mochaspresso <mochaspre...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:02:02 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ot still looking for this fucking melting pot...
On Nov 7, 4:55 pm, mochaspresso <mochaspre...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Coincidence.  From yesterday's Daily News....
http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/11/08/2009-11-08_your_guide...

Your Guide to Flushing, Queens: A true New York melting pot with a
booming Chinatown

By Nicole Lyn Pesce
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Saturday, November 7th 2009, 4:00 AM
Flushing is a true New York City melting pot, calling itself home to
everything from Middle Eastern markets to Korean cuisine.
Sabo/News
Flushing is a true New York City melting pot, calling itself home to
everything from Middle Eastern markets to Korean cuisine.
Downtown Flushing is the Big Apple’s second-largest Chinatown.
Pedestrians bustle along on Main St. & Roosevelt Ave.
Pokress for News
Downtown Flushing is the Big Apple’s second-largest Chinatown.
Pedestrians bustle along on Main St. & Roosevelt Ave.
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Each Sunday, Your New York offers an up-close look at a city
neighborhood. This week, take a trip along Flushing’s Main St.
The offerings in this melting pot of Asian cultures range from Middle
Eastern markets to Korean cuisine, but it’s the rapidly expanding new
Chinatown that’s largely responsible for this nabe’s business boom.

1. Downtown Flushing is the Big Apple’s second-largest Chinatown, and
the Main St. district is its lifeline. Both the 7 train and Long
Island Rail Road have stations on the bustling block, drawing scores
of shoppers and commuters to the chain stores and local shops that
sport bilingual signs. It’s easy to forget you’re in New York. “Being
here is like being back in China," says Carol Tseng, 58. “Everyone
talks in Chinese. You can eat Chinese food. The signs are in Chinese.
It feels like home."

2. Although most eateries in the heart of Flushing are Hong Kong-style
Cantonese, the Taiwanese Taipan Bakery boasts two outposts along Main
St. — compared to just one in Manhattan’s Chinatown. The authentic
Taiwanese eats at 37-25 Main St. are sweet and cheap, with items like
roasted pork pineapple buns for $1 and mousse cakes topped with fruit
for just $2.75.

3. No trip to Flushing is complete without a taste of  Peking duck,
and Corner 28 (40-28 Main St.) boasts the best deal on fowl around.
“One piece for $1," brags manager Dragon Cheng. “We’re the only ones
in Flushing with that price." On a recent Monday afternoon, the place
was packed, as locals lined up for $1 skewers of pork from the takeout
window or loaded their trays for the $4.50 combo, which serves three
dishes (including specialties like teriyaki Chilean sea bass) plus a
free water and soup.

4. Visitors of all stripes visit the Five Star Beauty Salon (41-36
Main St.) for a quick trim and to catch up on local politics. “We get
all different customers: Chinese, Spanish, Indian," says manager
Jacqueline Lin, who’s lived here for more than 25 years. “It’s really
a new Flushing."

5. Only on Main St. can you find a Buddhist temple next to a Halal
meat market. The Guan Yin Temple (43-35 Main St.) looks like any other
building from the outside, but behind its red door is a gorgeous
sanctuary decked with golden idols, glowing lamps and saffron
cushions. Group services are held every Saturday and Sunday by Master
Ch’an Yun On and his assistant, Rev. Jing Zhi, in English and Chinese.

6. Flushing’s Little India is situated farther south along Main St.,
but the East Asian influence emanates from the newsstands and
supermarkets along the way. “Franklin Ave. was once the dividing line
between the Asian businesses and the Indian businesses," observes
Sajit Sharma, manager of the Kabul Kabab House (42-51 Main St.). “But
now, when people call and ask where my restaurant is, they say, ‘Oh,
you’re in the New Chinatown!'?"

7. While the recession has hurt development in the district, the area
is still a growing housing and commercial area. The Queens Crossing
Mall opened last year, catering to increasingly wealthy Chinese and
Korean immigrants. The Rockefeller Group is constructing Flushing
Commons, a mixed-use development space downtown. “Major streetscape
improvements are underway in the neighborhood," adds Faith Hope
Consolo of Prudential Douglas Elliman, and new lights, signs, benches
and plantings have been added throughout downtown.

8. Newcomers from Korea, Latin America and Russia have been moving
into the nabe in greater numbers. Kim-Alexa Gatling, 18, takes a break
from her job at Modell’s with Samuel Noailles, 20. Fellow local
Anthony Harris, 31, has also witnessed his hometown’s transition.
“I’ve seen the neighborhood change from bagels to Chinese laundry, but
it’s changed for the better," he says. “It’s a great place to live.
Rent is still cheap!"


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Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:47:07 +0100
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Subject: Re: ot still looking for this fucking melting pot...

On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:02:02 -0800 (PST), mochaspresso wrote:
>Coincidence.  From yesterday's Daily News....
>http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/11/08/2009-11-08_your_guide...

This is one thing that irks me about many rap records,
they flat out ignore the rest of society outside of their
social circle.

If you'd make a list of non-young black males appearing
as characters in rap songs by young black males, attractive
women would crowd the top of the list, followed by police
and mothers. Way down below you'd have children and the
odd 'Chinese guy.'

Matt


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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:31:59 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ot still looking for this fucking melting pot...
On Nov 8, 7:47 am, mattmatical <i...@i.be> wrote:

> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:02:02 -0800 (PST), mochaspresso wrote:
> >Coincidence.  From yesterday's Daily News....
> >http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/2009/11/08/2009-11-08_your_guide...

> This is one thing that irks me about many rap records,
> they flat out ignore the rest of society outside of their
> social circle.

> If you'd make a list of non-young black males appearing
> as characters in rap songs by young black males, attractive
> women would crowd the top of the list, followed by police
> and mothers. Way down below you'd have children and the
> odd 'Chinese guy.'

> Matt

I totally agree.  But I think I understand how that happens.  One
thing that I have noticed about city kids is that their access and
knowledge of other cultures is extremely limited.  In NY, it's really
their own fault (...well, their parents fault).  But it happens all
the time.  So many city kids grow up rarely leaving their 8-10 block
radius.  The more affluent kids go on family vacations and are exposed
to other cultures through their servants or maybe even through other
classmates at their private schools.  But the poor and middle class
kids.....that 10 blocks is all they really know until they grow up and
branch out.

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:24:20 -0500
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Subject: Re: ot still looking for this fucking melting pot...

sounds cool, but i wasnt feeling ny at all...

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:57:19 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ot still looking for this fucking melting pot...
On Nov 5, 6:00 pm, "       bozak" <*****____boz...@gmail.com____*****>
wrote:

WHAT melting pot?
And WHO wants to melt in it?

Do you really want to melt together with ignorant people who do not
know the difference between the constitution and the declaration of
independence? Do you really want to melt together with people who are
so full of hatred and losing their own appendexes because there is so
much toxicity in their bodies that their own organs can not take it
any more? Do you really want to melt in the same pot with all the
racist and faschists in this (US) country?

I don't know about you, but I like to create my own pots. I like to
top it with my pot.

ARW

"God spelled backwards is dog."
      - Robert Anton Wilson, "Reality Is What You Can Get Away With"


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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:02:54 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ot still looking for this fucking melting pot...
On Nov 8, 5:57 pm, ARW <AR...@aol.com> wrote:

It's the system which is a problem, where a tiny elite get everything,
and set regular people at each others throats with a dog eat dog
mentality pounded into their heads by TV, Movies and the Radio, and
institutional schools. Societies that are collectivist in nature are
happier societies. We should take Donald Trump and Rockerfeller, and
Bushes and Clinton's and other oligarch's money away from them, and
start over with a different economy and political system.

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:11:11 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon 9 Nov 2009 05:11
Subject: Re: ot still looking for this fucking melting pot...
On Nov 8, 7:02 pm, "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:

Agree! The system is broken! It's time for new one!

I tend to agree with Douglas Rushkoff when he says: "The economic
model has broken, for good. It's time to stop pretending it describes
our world."

Here is the text in it's entirety:

http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/rushkoff09/rushkoff09_index.html


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From: "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:41:05 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: ot still looking for this fucking melting pot...
On Nov 8, 9:11 pm, ARW <AR...@aol.com> wrote:

I read the text on your link and it looks promiscing.

It's not just good arguments or good ideas which we have to make
change, all though that is part of it. We live in a class society. Our
Masters won't give up their positions of power with out a fight. Mao
Tse Tung said: "Without a People's army the people have nothing." Not
only is the every day workings of Capitalism a horror of boom and bust
cycles, ruthless exploitation, endless wars, death squads, police
terror, and torture chambers all over the world (mostly run by the US
through proxies) 27 million slaves currently --the most in human
history, not only are all these things prevelant--right now the planet
is being polluted and our rescources are rapidly running out. Right
now there is more plastics in the oceans than plakton, we only have
20% of forests left, and we are enduring the greatest species die of
in 65 million years. Capitlism is destroying the planet. We need
Socialism to replace Capitalism--this will only happen through armed
conflict.

"We ought to be fed up by now. Turn the system upside down." --The
Coup


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