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Orpheus  
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 More options 30 Nov 1994, 16:36
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From: orph...@HEINOUS.ISCA.UIOWA.EDU (Orpheus)
Date: 30 Nov 1994 17:28:42 +0100
Local: Wed 30 Nov 1994 16:28
Subject: Lute Music Questions
I have a few general questions about lute music of the renaissance,
specifically tablature.
        First, is there really any difference between spanish and italian
lute tablature? I was under the impression that they were similar but s
little different, but now that I'm reading more stuff, at least one school
of thought that the spaniards just used the italian system. Is this true,
or are there differences?
        Also, are there any net sites where i might be able to FTP some
postscript or JPG/GIF/TIFF/whatever files of lute tablature? like scanned
scores? Failing that, are there any anthologies of lute tablature, so that
I might be able to get ahold of an entire collection of stuff to look at
and compare?
        Thanks...

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Robert Trent  
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 More options 30 Nov 1994, 18:52
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From: rtr...@RUACAD.AC.RUNET.EDU (Robert Trent)
Date: 30 Nov 1994 19:44:01 +0100
Local: Wed 30 Nov 1994 18:44
Subject: Re: Lute Music Questions

>I have a few general questions about lute music of the renaissance,
>specifically tablature.
>        First, is there really any difference between spanish and italian
>lute tablature?  [snip...snip]

Jeffery,

In Western music, there were three kinds of plucked instrument tablature in
use from the late 1400's to about 1800.  The first was the Italian
(Spanish) variety (of which you are specifically inquiring), in which the
lines represent a mirror image of the stringing of the instrument, so that
the highest pitched course was situated on the lowest line. This tablature
first appeared in Italy and was adopted in Spain.  However, one noteable
exception (and it is a large one) is Spanish vihuelista Luys Milan, whose
use of tablature is inverted (like the French, but with Italian numbering
in place of the French letter system).  Francesco da Milano 's_Intavolatura
de viola over lauto_ (1536) is another exception.
Be aware, however, that if you're also considering guitar tablature, (like
Juan Carlos Amat (1596), Girolamo Montesardo (1606), Briceno (1626) or any
of Vihuela book [all of which contain works for Renaissance Guitar] be
prepared to learn Alfabeto tables for rasgeado vs. punteado playing).

I don't however, have info on tab sites, but you might try the lute list at
Dartmouth.

Cheers,

Robert

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Peter Dickof  
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 More options 2 Dec 1994, 20:10
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From: PDIC...@Meena.CC.URegina.CA (Peter Dickof)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 1994 18:13:53 GMT
Local: Fri 2 Dec 1994 18:13
Subject: Re: Lute Music Questions

In <Pine.3.05.9411301044.A9849-a100...@kahless.isca.uiowa.edu> orph...@HEINOUS.ISCA.UIOWA.EDU writes:
> I have a few general questions about lute music of the renaissance,
> specifically tablature.
>         First, is there really any difference between spanish and italian
> lute tablature?

(snip)

> ...are there any anthologies of lute tablature, so that
> I might be able to get ahold of an entire collection of stuff to look at
> and compare?

Summary of Lute tablatures:

First the disclaimer: dates, trends, etc described here are all gross
generalizations. Standards (eg. for spelling!) are not a Rennassance
strong point.

A "reference" (my term, a convenience for this description) Rennaissance
lute has six courses (sets of one or two) of strings. Typically the
first (highest pitched) course is a single string, the remaining ones
each have two. When courses have two strings, they are either tuned in
unison (higher pitched courses) or the lower of the pair is tuned an
octave higher (for lower courses). The dividing line between octaves and
unisons appeared to move down with time. When the lute is held normally,
the highest pitched course is closest to the floor.

This six course lute would have been in common use around 1550. Earlier
lutes sometimes had fewer course (5 and even 4 are known). Think of them
as missing lower courses. Later lutes got additional strings added on
the bass side. In many cases these were not fretted. Lutes with up to 9
courses are Rennaissance, 10 course lute music is transitional from
Rennaissance to Baroque. With more than 10 courses, the music is
baroque. There is a standard Rennaissance tuning (for the six strings,
additional ones - and sometimes the sixth - were tuned as required for the
piece). In the Baroque period, tunings were very varied.

French tab:

    Usually a six-line staff (though some early music has 5 lines). The
    lines refer to the top six courses of the lute. The top line refers to
    the courses with highest pitch.

    Letters are placed above each line to indicate which fret the course is
    stopped at: a indicates unstopped, b indicates stopped at the first
    fret, etc. The letter j was not used (i & j were used interchangeably at
    the time).

    When additional courses were shown, the other courses were all indicated
    immediately below the bottom line of the staff: The open 7th course was
    variously indicated as a,  -a- (line through a), or _a_ (underlined a).
    Courses lower than this are indicated the same way but preceded (or,
    sometimes, followed) by one slash for each of the extra course above it
    (eg. the 10th course could be written ///a).

Italian tab.

    Usually a six-line staff (though some early music has 5 lines). The
    lines refer to the top six courses of the lute. The top line refers to
    the course with LOWEST pitch (the course farthest from the floor).

    NUMBERS are placed on each line to indicate which fret the string is
    stopped at: 0 indicates unstopped, 1 indicates stopped at the first
    fret, etc.

Neapolitan Tab.

    A six-line staff; the top line refers to the course with the highest
    pitch.

    NUMBERS are placed on each line to indicate which fret the string is
    stopped at: 1 indicates unstopped, 2 indicates stopped at the first
    fret, etc.

    Very rare, used by Francesco di Milano.

Spanish tablature (Luys Milan)

    Strictly speaking not lute tablature, rather vihuela tablature. The two
    instruments were usually tuned the same way. Most Spanish vihuela music
    is written in Italian tablature. The big exception is Luys Milan who
    uses the following scheme:

    A six-line staff; the top line refers to the course with the highest
    pitch.

    NUMBERS are placed on each line to indicate which fret the string is
    stopped at: 0 indicates unstopped, 1 indicates stopped at the first
    fret, etc.

    This is the scheme used today for guitar.

German Tab.

    TOTALLY different from any of the above. This tablature assigns a
    different letter to every fret on every string. Start with a five string
    lute, label the open lowest string a, the next open string b,... the
    open highest string e, the first fret on the lowest string f,.. the
    first fret on the highest string k, (j is again skipped). When you run
    out of the alphabet, add two extra symbols called "et" (sometimes sort
    of a backwards capital F, sometimes a sort of upside-down 2) and "con"
    (sort of a 9). If you need to go to higher frets start the alphabet again
    with lines over, or use numbers if you prefer) Now add the sixth string by
    labelling it as you would in French tablature, but use capitals. Just in
    case any one still understands, use Gothic letters, and print them
    upside down when the mood takes you.

    This tablature uses no staff; simply write the polyphonic lines on top
    of each other. This is a real  benefit of German Tablature; it keeps the
    polyphony straight better than other tabs (and better than staff
    notation too unless a staff is used for each line). It's also compact.

Cifra Nueva

    Take the white keys on the keyboard(!). start with F and label them 1-7
    in sequence for two octaves (the second set gets a tail or dot on top).
    You will also need flat-4 and flat-7. Use a staff with one line for each
    polyphonic voice and write the notes on.

    This is a keyboard tablature, but it is used for vihuela music
    by Venegas de Henestrosa and Hernando de Cabecon

French tablature is the 'lingua franca' of lute music. Most amateur Lutenists
today sight read French tablature. Many also sight read Italian, Spanish, and
Neapolitan tablature. Some also sight read conventional music notation on the
grand staff and/or in guitar transcriptions (transposed down a minor third and
written an octave higher than played). A _very_ few read German tablature.

References:

_A tutor for the Rennaissance lute_, Diana Poulton, Schott & Co. Ltd.
   London, 1991. This book contains modern printings of french, Italian,
   Neapolitan and Spanish tablatures, and also facsimiles of all the tabs
   mentioned above.

_The notation of polyphonic music 900-1600_, Willi Apel, The Mediaeval
   Academy of America, Cambridge, Massachusets, 1953. There is a brief
   chapter on lute tablatures in this.

Peter


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