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J Clark  
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Date: 05 Nov 2009 18:54:28 GMT
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Subject: 5 Jugglers Every Juggler Should Know
Hi Everyone,

At a recent club meeting, I casually mentioned the name Jason Garfield,
only to find that the four jugglers I was talking to had never heard of
him! I put in a petition to the club to try to remedy this.

So, in two weeks, I'm going to give a short presentation with video clips
to our club detailing 5 jugglers every juggler should know. The problem,
of course, is that the list of jugglers I like is far too long. So far, I
have two I really want to share, but I'm looking for input about who else
I should talk about.
Jason Garfield (Love him or hate him, he's definitely been a big innovator
in the juggling community in the last few years.)
Wes Peden (Who doesn't like Wes? Everyone should see some of his work.)

So, if you were presented with an opportunity to only share five jugglers,
who would you choose? Should I take either (or both) of these two off of
my list?

Thanks!
Jeff

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Date: 05 Nov 2009 19:25:11 GMT
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Subject: Re: 5 Jugglers Every Juggler Should Know

1.Pavel Evsukevich
2.Vova Galchenko
3.Daniel Eaker
4.Pawel Witczak
5.Patrik Elmnert

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Date: 05 Nov 2009 20:29:59 GMT
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Subject: Re: 5 Jugglers Every Juggler Should Know

1. Enrico Rastelli
2. Evgeni Biljauer
3. Sergei Ignatov
4. Francis Brunn
5. Anthony Gatto

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Date: 05 Nov 2009 20:53:24 GMT
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Subject: Re: 5 Jugglers Every Juggler Should Know

In order:

Anthony Gatto (sheer technique)
Michael Moschen (artistic)
Francis Brunn (historical)
Michael Davis or The Flying Karamazov Brothers (pick one for comedy)
Viktor Kee (cirque)

That was too easy.

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:08:02 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: 5 Jugglers Every Juggler Should Know
On Nov 5, 3:29 pm, jon_ud...@hotmail.com.nospam.com (jonudry) wrote:

I would probably have to agree with that list.

David Cain


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From: Boppo <btiem...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:14:34 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: 5 Jugglers Every Juggler Should Know
On Nov 5, 11:54 am, jeff_cl...@byu.edu.nospam.com (J Clark) wrote:

What sort of thing do you think jugglers should know about?

There are certainly those who have altered the prevailing perception
of what is humanly possible, for example, Gatto presently and Ignatov
a few decades ago.  Things that were dismissed as being impossibly
difficult to do, they did, and in so doing raised the bar and have
inspired others to new heights.  There was a time (maybe, when clubs
were heavier) when juggling five clubs at all was a major feat, and
backcrossing five was believed to be impossible.  But then Ignatov
performed it in shows, and now it has become widespread.  Gatto is now
making significant headway into backcrossing seven clubs.  Etc.

But then there are those who have fundamentally altered the way
juggling itself is thought of.  One could, for example, name Jason
Garfield (irrespective of his own technical juggling accomplishments)
for his efforts at rebranding juggling from an "entertainment" into a
"sport" in a way that has a chance of significantly alter the
perception of juggling and jugglers, not only from the standpoint of
jugglers, but even from the standpoint of the general public.

So, which is important for the purpose of your list? If the former,
who are the pinnacles of inspiration? If the latter, who has most
shaped what juggling is today?

-boppo


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Date: 05 Nov 2009 21:30:23 GMT
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Subject: Re: 5 Jugglers Every Juggler Should Know

nice post

1) gatto = cause hes the best

2) wes peden = cause hes AWESOME at creative JUGGLING and tech juggling,
and he does dance and doesn't juggle in his routines, and people still
like it!

3) jason garfield = cause hes created wjf and sport juggling, (people
should know that juggling is art and sport, depending on what you want it
to be). also the gatto vs garfield story is interesting.

4) Vova = cause his juggling is perfect. and hes an awesome juggler

5) ? maybe another circus juggler. i only realy know gatto. maybe that
burnn guy. maybe someone who created siteswap.
maybe that Pawel W guy or tiff. (siteswap legends)
or maybe someone that can hold 500 rings and make gay shapes with them.
i dont know.

but gatto, wes and vova should defo be in it.

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Date: 05 Nov 2009 21:32:48 GMT
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Subject: Re: 5 Jugglers Every Juggler Should Know

In my opinion:

Jorden Moir (the best 4 limbs juggler)
Alexandr Koblikov (the flowiest)
Vova Galchenko (due to his club juggling)
Komei Aoki (the most original)
Anthony Gatto (the best)

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Date: 05 Nov 2009 22:19:09 GMT
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Subject: Re: 5 Jugglers Every Juggler Should Know

David Cain wrote:

> On Nov 5, 3:29 pm, jon_ud...@hotmail.com.nospam.com (jonudry) wrote:

> > 1. Enrico Rastelli
> > 2. Evgeni Biljauer
> > 3. Sergei Ignatov
> > 4. Francis Brunn
> > 5. Anthony Gatto

> I would probably have to agree with that list.

I think I would pretty much agree as well, although I think Michael
Moschen should be in there somewhere as well - but I can't decide who
to drop to fit him in.

-Paul

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Date: 05 Nov 2009 22:22:21 GMT
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I think narrowing it down to five individuals misses the point.  I feel
very fortunate that I have been
introduced (mostly through video) to the worlds greatest jugglers.  I feel
even more fortunate to
consider many of the modern juggling virtuosos as my friends.  With that
said, perhaps juggling clubs
(groups) should have more movie nights.  When we lived in San Diego we
would invite jugglers over a
couple times a year and watch juggling videos (good excuse for a party),
we showed them the videos
we thought were amazing and thanks to some very generous friends we have
quite an amazing video
collection (both old and new).  It does seem weird to me that they would
not know who Jason Garfield
is.  Before he started the World Jason Federation (WJF) he made some great
videos, plus two of his IJA
routines are in my top ten.

Cheers,

Root

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I definitely agree 100% with this list.

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Date: 05 Nov 2009 22:47:57 GMT
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Subject: Re: 5 Jugglers Every Juggler Should Know

Well said. I definitely agree, and I should have also mentioned that I've
also started a "video of the week" for our club (just a link e-mailed
around--Komei Aoki's BJC performance this week). I think everyone ought to
know as much about juggling as possible; but I'd like to try to pick 5 to
start with for a video night. From there, I hope it goes onward and upward.

Thanks!
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Date: 05 Nov 2009 22:53:19 GMT
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Thanks. That is great clarification. I'd like to be able to focus more on
jugglers who have had a big impact in the last 5-10 years. Ultimately, my
goal is to introduce them to some awesome tricks, incredible art, and a
little bit of controversy. Most of all, I just want my fellow club members
to catch the vision for where juggling is going; then I hope we can dig
deeper into the past to see where it has been.

Jeff

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Date: 05 Nov 2009 23:07:50 GMT
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Subject: Re: 5 Jugglers Every Juggler Should Know

i agree, its hard to narrowing it down to five individuals.
i like the idea of a movie night.
i havn't heard of many old juggler. like that brunn guy. his name pops up
now and again and i dont understand why. cause i havn't ever seen him
juggle. i may search the name of juggling.tv, when i get a chance.

i know garfield was known before the wjf. but he did, 'sport juggling'
back then aswell as now. i remember laughing so hard at one of his ija
routines.

if it wasn't for garfield i would be juggling as much now. and that is the
same with many jugglers. the juggling world owes that guy a lot, for
getting so many talented jugglers into this world.

i could be sooooo wrong about the next thing i am going to say. but i bet
wes peden practiced more becuase of the wjf. and now people are inspired
by him. and then people are inspired by those people and so on.

i wouldn't be writing this if it wasn't for garfield

Lewis

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Bit I also want to add:
Victor Kee
Booby May
Kris Kremo
Whilst Wes is an amzing juggler, for me he isnt as important as the guys
above.

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For me, a top bounce & siteswap juggler would make the list.

When I had movie nights, I would show lots of Anthony Gatto, Thomas Dietz,
Greg Kennedy, Peter Bone, and Sean Gandini.

But I'm also very siteswap biased with a few of those.

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J Clark wrote:
> Well said. I definitely agree, and I should have also mentioned that I've
> also started a "video of the week" for our club

I think this is a great idea. Over exposure in one sitting can be a bit
much. But spread out, and many of the worlds greats can be seen. 5 is too
little, and not everyone's tastes will be the same.

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Everyone should know about the chainsaw juggler that got his hand cut off,
bowling ball juggler than dropped it on his toe and the guy that juggles
and eat apples who got.. appleitis.

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In no particular order

Anthony Gatto
Thomas Dietz
Jason Garfield
Wes Peden
Vova and Olga Galchenko

All these people have huge technical ability, Garfield, who someone said
was not pushing the boundaries of juggling, has succesfully launched into
9clubs, i haven't heard of anyone else that successful (although my only
attempt at 9 actually had a decent first club :) )

Wes Peden, although i'm not a huge fan of the more artistic juggling, but
he makes good juggling appealing to more people.

Vova and olga probably deserve a spot each, but i ran out of numbers, and
also they are unbelievable passers. If they get back into it, watch out!

Gatto obviously was a child prodigy, he needs no buffing up by me

Dietz is my favourite of them all, he does incredibly difficult things,
including almost an hour of 5club, reverse throws db97531 and 9ball 9up
360, ALWAYS with a smile on his face!!!

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Juggling history should be in schools.....

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Obviously a very subjective list no matter who compiles it, my list is 6
and I can't cut one.

Anthony Gatto
Sergei Ignatov
Wes Peden
Vova Galchenko
Thomas Deitz
Jason Garfield
- For juggling accomplishments and changing perceptions

And then I'd mention all of the guys pushing the limits on really high
numbers and trick specializations.  

Lauge and Ben Thompson - 360/720 stuff
Bruce Sarafian - personal numbers hero of mine
Daniel Eaker - fastest learner I've ever heard of, I think he'd been
juggling 2 years less than me when we both got a db97531, and by got it, I
mean I did one round and he broke the world record and qualified it.
Can't decide whether to be inspired or depressed by this guy every time he
puts out a video.
Alan Sulc - probably my favorite bouncer

Probably more but I gotta sleep.  If I read this tomorrow it's going to
piss me off it's this short.

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I vote that Komei or Ori Roth should make the list. Wes Peden of course
should make the list too.

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I feel so honored right now.

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Lewis Kennedy wrote:
> 3) jason garfield = cause hes created wjf and sport juggling

Just a point of clarification, Jason Garfield did not create sport
juggling.  Also, the WJF was not the first sport juggling organization.
Albert Lucas founded the International Sport Juggling Federation years
before the WJF came into existance.  Clearly, the WJF has been a much more
successful at promoting sport juggling, and for that, Garfield certainly
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pclynes7 wrote:
> 9ball 9up
> 360, ALWAYS with a smile on his face!!!

Is that available somewhere to see?

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