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  <title type="text">rec.bicycles.tech Google Group</title>
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  Cycling product design, construction, maintenance, etc.
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  <updated>2009-11-09T05:33:21Z</updated>
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Ron Wallenfang</name>
  <email>rwallenf...@wi.rr.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-09T05:33:21Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/607ac5ebf45185fc/4ce0094c983c959f?show_docid=4ce0094c983c959f</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/607ac5ebf45185fc/4ce0094c983c959f?show_docid=4ce0094c983c959f"/>
  <title type="text">Re: I ride an unholy bike!</title>
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  Anecdotes don&#39;t prove much but since we&#39;re trading them I&#39;ll mention &lt;br&gt; the Catholic priest in East Troy, Wis, who has bicycled every day for &lt;br&gt; over 7000 days. I&#39;m also struck by how little hostility I&#39;ve &lt;br&gt; encountered from motorists in almost 300,000 miles of bicycle riding &lt;br&gt; since 1993, covering the 48 contiguous US states and the 10 provinces
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Tom Sherman °_°</name>
  <email>twshermanrem...@thissouthslope.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-09T03:43:34Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/53b4e6cd3735a448/7326fe7fe81fa56c?show_docid=7326fe7fe81fa56c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/53b4e6cd3735a448/7326fe7fe81fa56c?show_docid=7326fe7fe81fa56c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Kranich: Why Hydraulic Rim Brakes, Not Discs?</title>
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  Actually, I was considering converting a &#39;bent with a 55-cm seat height, &lt;br&gt; 155-mm wheelbase and 30%/70% F/R weight distribution to have either a &lt;br&gt; rear disc or drum brake for winter riding. &lt;br&gt; Refer back to the posts of Jay Bollyn when he was looking for an all &lt;br&gt; around commuter. In the Upper Midwest, we have sections of slush
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Tom Sherman °_°</name>
  <email>twshermanrem...@thissouthslope.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-09T03:33:05Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/53b4e6cd3735a448/b40b7d2e0f4c8e25?show_docid=b40b7d2e0f4c8e25</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/53b4e6cd3735a448/b40b7d2e0f4c8e25?show_docid=b40b7d2e0f4c8e25"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Kranich: Why Hydraulic Rim Brakes, Not Discs?</title>
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  I like fixed gear as much as Chalo.
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  <author>
  <name>Edward Dolan</name>
  <email>edo...@iw.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-09T01:59:57Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/607ac5ebf45185fc/86fe41eed76b2620?show_docid=86fe41eed76b2620</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/607ac5ebf45185fc/86fe41eed76b2620?show_docid=86fe41eed76b2620"/>
  <title type="text">Re: I ride an unholy bike!</title>
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  [...] &lt;br&gt; Anyone but Tom Sherman been on ARBR for 10 years and is still here? &lt;br&gt; Regards, &lt;br&gt; Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota &lt;br&gt; aka &lt;br&gt; Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Edward Dolan</name>
  <email>edo...@iw.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-09T01:56:16Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/c34fdc22ad25e0de/bb17d32531cc8fda?show_docid=bb17d32531cc8fda</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/c34fdc22ad25e0de/bb17d32531cc8fda?show_docid=bb17d32531cc8fda"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Ed Dolan the Great and the Long Goodbye</title>
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  It does if you can separate the seed from the chaff. Original writing is &lt;br&gt; vastly overrated and so is original thought. It is quite enough to be able &lt;br&gt; to intelligently select what is fine to make one a genius. It explains why &lt;br&gt; some think Beethoven&#39;s last quartets are fine while others think &lt;br&gt; Wellington&#39;s Victory is fine. It is also explains why my epitaph will be
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Tom Ace</name>
  <email>tom...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-09T01:44:13Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/53b4e6cd3735a448/f69ec5c9468d26a1?show_docid=f69ec5c9468d26a1</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/53b4e6cd3735a448/f69ec5c9468d26a1?show_docid=f69ec5c9468d26a1"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Kranich: Why Hydraulic Rim Brakes, Not Discs?</title>
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  None between decent brakes, i.e. with adequate power &lt;br&gt; and good modulation. Once the front brake is strong &lt;br&gt; enough to lift the rear wheel, having more power &lt;br&gt; available will not stop you any faster. &lt;br&gt; Tom Ace
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Pete</name>
  <email>ni...@eggsandspamblueyonder.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-09T01:28:04Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/cbd1bbfdcaeca6a8/e5a60ce89a812654?show_docid=e5a60ce89a812654</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/cbd1bbfdcaeca6a8/e5a60ce89a812654?show_docid=e5a60ce89a812654"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Rudge-Whitworth wire wheels</title>
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  &amp;lt;snip all sorts of crap&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; Once in a while u.r.c pops up in my field of vision, usually to remind &lt;br&gt; me why I unsubscribed. &lt;br&gt; Pete
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>AMuzi</name>
  <email>a...@yellowjersey.org</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-09T01:11:47Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/53b4e6cd3735a448/8dd62b01d41377e1?show_docid=8dd62b01d41377e1</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/53b4e6cd3735a448/8dd62b01d41377e1?show_docid=8dd62b01d41377e1"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Kranich: Why Hydraulic Rim Brakes, Not Discs?</title>
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  I sold them then. &lt;br&gt; Aluminum wheels were always standard equipment.
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  <author>
  <name>(PeteCresswell)</name>
  <email>x...@y.invalid</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-09T00:46:06Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/53b4e6cd3735a448/4fd55fd10194b73d?show_docid=4fd55fd10194b73d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Kranich: Why Hydraulic Rim Brakes, Not Discs?</title>
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  Per Norman: &lt;br&gt; I think it&#39;s something about the material used for the rim. &lt;br&gt; On my 1980-something Stumpie braking is essentially zero using &lt;br&gt; the original canti brakes on the original steel rims when wet. &lt;br&gt; The alu rim, OTOH, that I put on the rear wheel has some braking &lt;br&gt; power when wet. Dunno how it compares bc I went to a drum brake
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Phil W Lee at dot dot</name>
  <email></email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-09T00:30:29Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/53b4e6cd3735a448/24bd39be573ea236?show_docid=24bd39be573ea236</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/53b4e6cd3735a448/24bd39be573ea236?show_docid=24bd39be573ea236"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Kranich: Why Hydraulic Rim Brakes, Not Discs?</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  &amp;quot;(PeteCresswell)&amp;quot; &amp;lt;x...@y.Invalid&amp;gt; considered Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:24:35 &lt;br&gt; You&#39;re forgetting that disc effectiveness is directly proportional to &lt;br&gt; the rotor size, and the largest diameter rotor you can fit is, , ,your &lt;br&gt; rim.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>thirty-six</name>
  <email>thirty-...@live.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-09T00:29:03Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/167c60168bc479bf/410545ee8d7147f1?show_docid=410545ee8d7147f1</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/167c60168bc479bf/410545ee8d7147f1?show_docid=410545ee8d7147f1"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Downtube interference with cartridge BB</title>
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  Be professional, wear an apron and a pair of latex gloves. ;-)
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Nate Nagel</name>
  <email>njna...@roosters.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-09T00:07:16Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/9fc2f5bb84d86309/15b5d4ee2f831a72?show_docid=15b5d4ee2f831a72</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/9fc2f5bb84d86309/15b5d4ee2f831a72?show_docid=15b5d4ee2f831a72"/>
  <title type="text">Re: electrical code question</title>
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  No, I didn&#39;t miss it, I was just explaining why grounding as is now &lt;br&gt; standard practice would be just as safe if not safer than not grounded &lt;br&gt; but GFCI-protected. &lt;br&gt; Eventually I would like to ground all boxes in this house, but that will &lt;br&gt; have to wait for repainting I fear as I don&#39;t see how to accomplish it
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Michael Press</name>
  <email>rub...@pacbell.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-09T00:03:33Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/9fc2f5bb84d86309/50da11a1d46714f1?show_docid=50da11a1d46714f1</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/9fc2f5bb84d86309/50da11a1d46714f1?show_docid=50da11a1d46714f1"/>
  <title type="text">Re: electrical code question</title>
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  In article &amp;lt;hd3ov80...@news6.newsguy.com&amp;gt; , &lt;br&gt; Did you miss the part where I said the configuration &lt;br&gt; that I discussed was _not_ grounded.
  </summary>
  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Andre Jute</name>
  <email>fiult...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T23:43:52Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/53b4e6cd3735a448/00a0cb9434cbf8df?show_docid=00a0cb9434cbf8df</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/53b4e6cd3735a448/00a0cb9434cbf8df?show_docid=00a0cb9434cbf8df"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Kranich: Why Hydraulic Rim Brakes, Not Discs?</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  I can understand why Herr Rohloff hasn&#39;t made a version of his hub &lt;br&gt; gearbox for Shimano&#39;s roller brakes: &lt;br&gt; 1. The roller brakes would need to be replaced a few times over the &lt;br&gt; life of the gearbox. &lt;br&gt; 2. It is unreasonably expensive for a small firm to provide for more &lt;br&gt; than two forms of braking. (Rohloff provides for a rim brake and/or a
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Norman</name>
  <email>invasivenor...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T23:30:46Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/233b757a9943b081/b8ca1d05e2a870c1?show_docid=b8ca1d05e2a870c1</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/233b757a9943b081/b8ca1d05e2a870c1?show_docid=b8ca1d05e2a870c1"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Rudge-Whitworth wire wheels moderated out from urcm</title>
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  . . . . &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCoLOCO/fontaine/fontaine.htm&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCoLOCO/holman/holman.htm&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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