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  <title type="text">rec.bicycles.tech Google Group</title>
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  Cycling product design, construction, maintenance, etc.
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  <updated>2008-05-13T18:07:02Z</updated>
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  <author>
	 <name>Joao</name>
	 <email>n...@way.jose</email>
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  <updated>2008-05-13T18:07:02Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/abf161878004a3b5</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/abf161878004a3b5"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Polarized sun glasses</title>
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  Just got a response from Rudy Project. Apparently that sticker is &lt;br&gt; required by law in Australia on all polarized glasses. They believe I &lt;br&gt; somehow received a lens that was supposed go down under by mistake. &lt;br&gt; But Jobst has a good point about not being able to see wet spots on the &lt;br&gt; road......... :(
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  <author>
	 <name>Chalo</name>
	 <email>chalo.col...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-05-13T17:58:38Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/714694d81fdd95fa</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/714694d81fdd95fa"/>
  <title type="text">Re: External-bearing BBs?</title>
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  bfd wrote: &lt;br&gt; Rivendell is the new Fwench! &lt;br&gt; Chalo
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  <author>
	 <name>bfd</name>
	 <email>bfd...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-05-13T17:32:32Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/8dc5f08d489771bb</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/8dc5f08d489771bb"/>
  <title type="text">Re: External-bearing BBs?</title>
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  I disagree, its not only Rivendell pushing the 650B (584mm) wheel &lt;br&gt; size. For example, QBP, arguably the largest parts distributor in the &lt;br&gt; US is pushing the 650B Bleriots and supplies all the needed wheel &lt;br&gt; goodies like tires, rims and complete wheels. Further, other &lt;br&gt; distributors are getting into the act.
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  <author>
	 <name>Andrew F Martin</name>
	 <email>andrew.franklin.mar...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-05-13T17:27:12Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/74d9afeb12c38176</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/74d9afeb12c38176"/>
  <title type="text">&#39;08 Madone bearing swap - Ceramics</title>
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  I picked up a set of the aftermarket ceramic bearings, but re- &lt;br&gt; assembling the cranks with the wavy-washer results in too much binding &lt;br&gt; in the system and the bearing roll like my steel ones. A teammate &lt;br&gt; removed the wavy-washer and cobbled something together slightly &lt;br&gt; slimmer and it works fine, but it&#39;s a bit of a hack. Has anyone had
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  <author>
	 <name>landotter</name>
	 <email>landot...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-05-13T17:13:24Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/b6ff33030662a014</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/b6ff33030662a014"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Unwarranted Paselagasm: Now they get creepy</title>
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  On May 13, 12:00 pm, Ozark Bicycle &lt;br&gt; Hey, that&#39;s the spirit! &lt;br&gt; You know what it could all be, though...this bit of the ride back from &lt;br&gt; The Lake, the Heinous Climb from the flood plain of the Stones River &lt;br&gt; (now used as a ball field, as it&#39;s dammed), passes by one of the water &lt;br&gt; treatment plants. For a good long while I used to think it was a
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  <author>
	 <name>bfd</name>
	 <email>bfd...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-05-13T17:09:57Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/c0d939169dac22ce</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/c0d939169dac22ce"/>
  <title type="text">Re: External-bearing BBs?</title>
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  OK, presuming the outboard bearing is from the Zipp VumaQuad crankset, &lt;br&gt; how about checking out the installation manual, which does show the &lt;br&gt; spindle interface: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.zipp.com/Portals/0/Products/Cranks/Compact_Crank_Manual.pdf&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <author>
	 <name>Ozark Bicycle</name>
	 <email>bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-05-13T17:00:15Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65ee7ed70d32541</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/d65ee7ed70d32541"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Unwarranted Paselagasm: Now they get creepy</title>
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  &amp;lt;Fogels smarm and bitter, joyless crap snipped&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; Dear Carl, &lt;br&gt; Why don&#39;t you just go fuck yerself? &lt;br&gt; Cheers!
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  <author>
	 <email>carlfo...@comcast.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-05-13T16:50:54Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/c6e3c4c8805020ef</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/c6e3c4c8805020ef"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Unwarranted Paselagasm: Now they get creepy</title>
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  On Tue, 13 May 2008 07:08:35 -0700 (PDT), landotter &lt;br&gt; Dear LD, &lt;br&gt; So it&#39;s a matter of your special low-speed balance problem, not &lt;br&gt; rolling resistance? &lt;br&gt; That is, your old narrow tires were so &amp;quot;tippy&amp;quot; and the new wider tires &lt;br&gt; are &amp;quot;far rounder&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;+2mm wider&amp;quot; without kevlar belts, so you can &lt;br&gt; ride up the hill without losing your balance?
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  <author>
	 <name>landotter</name>
	 <email>landot...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-05-13T16:49:07Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/c22214fce36171ad</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/c22214fce36171ad"/>
  <title type="text">Re: need advice on: Trek 1600 or Felt z70?</title>
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  Not &amp;quot;hard&amp;quot; per se, but as they&#39;re low-spoke, higher tension for no &lt;br&gt; reason other than fashion--they are more likely to *need* to be &lt;br&gt; repaired in the first place. Check out the reviews on them here: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.roadbikereview.com/cat/wheels/wheelsets/bontrager/PRD_104397_2490crx.aspx&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; The Felt comes rolling laced on conventional and strong 32H Mavic
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  <author>
	 <name>JCrowe</name>
	 <email>bongof...@hotrats.org</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-05-13T16:46:42Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/1286801567fa856a</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/1286801567fa856a"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Campagnolo wheels...on a car?</title>
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  At one time Campy made wheels for aircraft as well.
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  <author>
	 <email>zhahm...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-05-13T16:26:59Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/40e9f33723d47db2</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/40e9f33723d47db2"/>
  <title type="text">Re: need advice on: Trek 1600 or Felt z70?</title>
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  qui si... &amp;amp; landotter, &lt;br&gt; thanks for your comments. do you mean that Treks come with wheels that &lt;br&gt; are hard to repair?
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  <author>
	 <name>Chalo</name>
	 <email>chalo.col...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-05-13T16:17:55Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/826191ce9b9d5dc2</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/826191ce9b9d5dc2"/>
  <title type="text">Re: External-bearing BBs?</title>
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  If I understand correctly, Peugeots had gotten with the program by the &lt;br&gt; time MTBs were the dominant bikes on the scene. If that&#39;s true, then &lt;br&gt; there is nothing wrong with a Peugeot MTB versus another sort of MTB &lt;br&gt; from the same time period. Same with Raleighs; they gave up using &lt;br&gt; proprietary thread standards by sometime in the &#39;80s, and after that
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  <entry>
  <author>
	 <name>Robert Chung</name>
	 <email>rech...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-05-13T16:05:32Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a9456ccb18bbba49</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a9456ccb18bbba49"/>
  <title type="text">Re: The zero wind tunnel option for serious cyclists</title>
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  Depending on the method, .01 m^2 could be pretty big. If reasonable &lt;br&gt; protocols are followed with the right method, a few to several minutes &lt;br&gt; of samples. With A-B-A testing, one guy detected the change due to an &lt;br&gt; aero water bottle of less than that size. Another guy estimated the &lt;br&gt; change in CdA due to a 5cm x 5cm reference object (i.e., .0025 m^2)
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  <author>
	 <name>philcycles</name>
	 <email>philcyc...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-05-13T16:04:17Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a63cd2090a0f275f</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/a63cd2090a0f275f"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Campagnolo wheels...on a car?</title>
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  The late and unlamented MV Agusta 600 street bike had mechanical Campy &lt;br&gt; disc brakes on the front. Hard squeeze, little stoppage. &lt;br&gt; Phil Brown
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  <author>
	 <name>Andre Jute</name>
	 <email>fiult...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-05-13T15:18:10Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/35ffb07cec7595ef</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/35ffb07cec7595ef"/>
  <title type="text">Re: The zero wind tunnel option for serious cyclists</title>
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  That&#39;s the necessity my method is intended to circumvent. The common &lt;br&gt; coastdown method takes a spot reading on some maximum speed and, &lt;br&gt; generally speaking, derives both power and Cd from there, a procedure &lt;br&gt; with considerable potential for error. &lt;br&gt; I certainly don&#39;t mean 2% repeatable. I mean a very high degree of
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