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  <title>Re: Starving people refuse to eat food aid</title>
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  David DeLaney filted: &lt;br&gt; We had &amp;quot;stink bugs&amp;quot; when I was a kid, but I don&#39;t remember any of them that &lt;br&gt; actually *did* stink...eventually I worked out that the name came from their &lt;br&gt; habit of stopping dead still when threatened and lowering their heads to the &lt;br&gt; ground, leaving their rear ends sticking up in the air like someone about to let
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  dadoc...@spamcop.net
  (R H Draney)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2009 09:21:57 UT
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  <title>Re: The Simplest Methods Which Break The Will: 31 Methods Of Torture Used By Stalin&#39;s Atheist Executioners</title>
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  On Nov 23, 11:01 am, Vladimir Makarenko &amp;lt;vmak...@nospamgmail.com&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; Yes, but don&#39;t forget that the apple pie is Eurasian. It is a &lt;br&gt; national dish in France, Russia and many other countries. The first &lt;br&gt; apple pie was baked in Kazakhstan: the birthplace of apples. People &lt;br&gt; also say &amp;quot;as American as motherhood&amp;quot;. But that is also not quite
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  ostap_bender_1...@hotmail.com
  (Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr.)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2009 09:22:02 UT
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  <title>Re: Starving people refuse to eat food aid</title>
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  Walter Bushell filted: &lt;br&gt; Sounds a bit like Ogden Nash...or Piet Hein....r
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  dadoc...@spamcop.net
  (R H Draney)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2009 09:19:21 UT
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  <title>Re: Starving people refuse to eat food aid</title>
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  David Goldfarb filted: &lt;br&gt; Owls eat bats...I&#39;ve even watched one capture a meal in midair....r
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  dadoc...@spamcop.net
  (R H Draney)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2009 09:18:32 UT
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  <title>Re: The Simplest Methods Which Break The Will: 31 Methods Of Torture Used By Stalin&#39;s Atheist Executioners</title>
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  A wonderful job of playing a shrink without a license, BM. I assure &lt;br&gt; you that of all my psychological hangups, Solzhenitsyn is not in the &lt;br&gt; top 10 000. In fact, I was one of the very few in the audience that &lt;br&gt; day who actually kinda enjoyed his speech. Right after it, we went to &lt;br&gt; see Amarcord for the first time and then had a great party. So, it was
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  ostap_bender_1...@hotmail.com
  (Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr.)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2009 09:08:16 UT
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  <title>Re: The Books That Founded D&amp;D</title>
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  Spaniards: And we roll another natural 20! &lt;br&gt; DM: Wow! You guys are really kicking ass. Okay, Aztecs? &lt;br&gt; Aztecs: Huitzilopochtli help us now! -- Shit! Another natural 1!!! &lt;br&gt; DM: Uh, maybe you guys should trade dice? &lt;br&gt; Spaniars: Noooo!!!!!!
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  cl...@columbia-center.org
  (Dan Clore)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2009 08:37:09 UT
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  <title>Re: The Books That Founded D&amp;D</title>
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  Which reminds one that Cyrano also wrote some of the greatest SF/satire &lt;br&gt; in the history of mankind. Check it out, readers.
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  cl...@columbia-center.org
  (Dan Clore)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2009 08:28:54 UT
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  <title>Re: The Books That Founded D&amp;D</title>
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  Conan generally wears a helmet in Howard&#39;s stories. Howard is sometimes &lt;br&gt; criticized for calling the same helmet by the names of different types &lt;br&gt; of helmet. This contradiction supposedly lessens the verisimilitude of &lt;br&gt; the stories -- but forgets that Conan lived thousands of years before &lt;br&gt; any of those types of helmet were invented.
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  cl...@columbia-center.org
  (Dan Clore)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2009 08:23:01 UT
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  <title>Re: Trolling the Goss.</title>
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  Grin. And I&#39;ve bound Terry to be eternally my dance partner.
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  go...@gossg.org
  (Greg Goss)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2009 07:21:42 UT
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  <title>Re: Starving people refuse to eat food aid</title>
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  In article &amp;lt;MPG.2574ba6faaf7191e989...@ne ws.octanews.com&amp;gt;, &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;SNIP&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; That would be before various German crusading orders brought German &lt;br&gt; civilization to the Baltics? It might had been a nation that wasn&#39;t &lt;br&gt; ruled by foreigners, but I suspect that the various chieftains &lt;br&gt; didn&#39;t recognize even a first amongst equals.
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  rober...@drizzle.com
  (Robert A. Woodward)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2009 07:11:23 UT
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  <title>Re: Exploring my ignorance: the systems of uploaded people</title>
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  Oh, it&#39;s a little nagging thing. When it&#39;s used to produce &lt;br&gt; web pages that take the input of a form into a fresh page, which it is &lt;br&gt; rather good at, ASP.NET stores information about the page it came from &lt;br&gt; in a little tag given the id name &#39;__VIEWSTATE&#39;, which doesn&#39;t appear &lt;br&gt; when the page renders but can be used by the server to gather data.
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  nebu...@-rpi-.edu
  (Joseph Nebus)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2009 06:46:11 UT
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  <title>Re: conscious ships - yasid</title>
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  In article &amp;lt;MPG.2575d3ecb96036d5989...@ne ws.individual.net&amp;gt;, &lt;br&gt; And here is what I assume is the cover from the 3rd artist &lt;br&gt; (actually the 1st, because I think this is the 1st edition): &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.amazon.ca/Take-Back-Plenty-Colin-Greenland/dp/images/004&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; 4402651&amp;gt;, but this isn&#39;t what Mark Zenier was thinking of either.
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  rober...@drizzle.com
  (Robert A. Woodward)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2009 06:45:11 UT
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  <title>Re: Genesis 1 &amp; 2: Is There A Contradiction?</title>
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  No, I am saying that God can reach someone &lt;br&gt; no matter what place in life they are in. &lt;br&gt; I think that God knows how to reach people no matter &lt;br&gt; what circumstances people find themselves to be in. &lt;br&gt; Suzanne
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  leila...@hotmail.com
  (Suzanne)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2009 06:40:58 UT
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  <title>Re: conscious ships</title>
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  Sorry to be slow following up; I got a bit buried beneath the &lt;br&gt; rush of everything the past week. &lt;br&gt; Anyway, in &#39;Solar Plexus&#39;, and I admit I might have some of this &lt;br&gt; a bit garbled because it&#39;s been ages since I did read it last, one of the &lt;br&gt; noble members of the Space Patrol is kidnapped by a mysterious spaceship
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  nebu...@-rpi-.edu
  (Joseph Nebus)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2009 06:27:37 UT
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  <title>Re: Where do you go to hear about new books?</title>
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  [snip] &lt;br&gt; [snip] &lt;br&gt; Yes, a very good list. There are also useful subgenre-specific lists &lt;br&gt; elsewhere, e.g. &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.shelfari.com/groups/28650/discussions/89733&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; lists upcoming urban fantasy/paranormal romance/etc by month. &lt;br&gt; This is clearly an area that ISFDB should improve. &amp;lt;wanders off &lt;br&gt; pensively&amp;gt;
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  ahasue...@email.com
  (Ahasuerus)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2009 06:24:50 UT
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