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Re: Turkey Day

wswe...@gci.net (Bill Swears) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 23:09:20 UT

Could it be that they didn't want you to know, so that you'd fix the
standard feast?
Bill

Re: Is Homosexuality Genetic? Ask the Ancient Greeks

patmagro...@null.net (Pat Magroyne) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 23:01:19 UT

On Nov 27, 5:31 pm, David Friedman <d...@daviddfriedman.nopsam.co m>
wrote:
It has to be "marriage" in order to be recognized in, for example,
Israel, and other places that recognize same-sex marriage contracts.

Re: Is Homosexuality Genetic? Ask the Ancient Greeks

patmagro...@null.net (Pat Magroyne) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 22:59:19 UT

On Nov 27, 5:37 pm, David Friedman <d...@daviddfriedman.nopsam.co m>
wrote:
Well, some interpret the natural selection theory to mean that
anything that doesn't enhance one's chances of reproducing would be
"selected" out of the gene pool. This is simply not the case.
Actually, historically, that wasn't the case. Cultures expected

Re: Is Homosexuality Genetic? Ask the Ancient Greeks

d...@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com (David Friedman) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 22:39:00 UT

In article <heolkp$h7...@josh.motzarella. org>, Josh <u...@nowhere.com>
wrote:
I don't think so. I was arguing for leaving the symbolism to individual
choice, with people who regard same sex unions as marriages free to
refer to them accordingly, those who don't free not to, and the
government making no attempt to put a thumb on either pan of the scale.

Re: Is Homosexuality Genetic? Ask the Ancient Greeks

d...@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com (David Friedman) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 22:37:39 UT

In article
<0618d44e-3023-4405-8b3e-30fa3 de68...@e27g2000yqd.googlegrou ps.com>,
I'm not sure whether you are entirely missing the argument, or making a
legitimate point elliptically.
"Horribly awful," in this case, has nothing to do with whether humans
(or God, if there is one) disapprove of homosexuality, whether it is

Re: Is Homosexuality Genetic? Ask the Ancient Greeks

d...@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com (David Friedman) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 22:34:39 UT

In article <heom2v$ll...@josh.motzarella. org>, Josh <u...@nowhere.com>
wrote:
Yes. It would be an advantage to humans to be immune to a wide variety
of illnesses, from the common cold on up. Pretty clearly, evolution has
not yet managed to alter genetics in a way that produces that result--in
that case largely because evolution is also playing on the other side of

Re: Is Homosexuality Genetic? Ask the Ancient Greeks

d...@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com (David Friedman) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 22:31:07 UT

In article <4b0fecf7$0$36577$edfad...@dte xt01.news.tele.dk>,
My point was about the insistence on gay marriage, rather than only gay
civil unions. That is a controversy over what the contract is to be
called, with each side trying to insist on the other following their
preferred usage.

Re: Turkey Day

wswe...@gci.net (Bill Swears) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 22:31:45 UT

Teri spent several years as a vegetarian, until we moved to Alaska. Too
many things she couldn't get in Kodiak, so she gave it up. I think she
was ready to quit by then, anyway.
I read your rants on tofu the other day, and simply don't agree. Tofu
is entirely what you make of it, and generally has a texture that I find

Re: Is Homosexuality Genetic? Ask the Ancient Greeks

patmagro...@null.net (Pat Magroyne) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 20:47:12 UT

Of course it is. Look at cystic fibrosis as an example.
It's also possible that homosexuality is not the horribly awful thing
that some make it out to be. If that's the case, there'd be no reason
for natural selection to rid the animal world of it.

Re: Turkey Day

seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com (Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 20:47:00 UT

My eldest has toyed off and on with something like vegetarianism, and
he eats tofu voluntarily, which is a very worrisome sign. Fortunately my
elder daughter rejects all the useless vegetables and eats meat, so I
have at least one proper child.

Re: Turkey Day

brendawri...@yahoo.com (Brenda Clough) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 20:44:28 UT

My daughter went to college and moved into a vegetarian dorm. When she
came back for Xmas I tactfully inquired whether she wanted a tofu-based
holiday dinner. No, she replied emphatically -- she wanted dinner to
moo. Meat, red and lots of it! Many are called ...
Brenda

Re: Is Homosexuality Genetic? Ask the Ancient Greeks

u...@nowhere.com (Josh) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 20:20:49 UT

The Catholic Church is forced to accept that the state approves of
something they disapprove of. Sure, it happens routinely, and it is
acceptable and appropriate. But, it is a form of force all the same.
Josh Rosenbluth

Re: Is Homosexuality Genetic? Ask the Ancient Greeks

gudl...@yahoo.com (thomas p.) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 20:19:04 UT

"Ric Locke" <warrick.lo...@gmail.com> skrev i meddelelsen
Argument by hyperbole. Remove the law and the Constitutional state and
replace it with "goons with guns"; you will soon notice the difference.

Re: Is Homosexuality Genetic? Ask the Ancient Greeks

gudl...@yahoo.com (thomas p.) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 20:16:56 UT

"Josh" <u...@nowhere.com> skrev i meddelelsen
I ask again, who is being forced to do anything to approve of anything?
Has, for example, the Catholic Church been forced to approve of divorce
since
divorce and remarriage are both legal? As far as I know the Church still
disapproves
still insists that state granted divorce does not end a marriage.

Re: Turkey Day

djhe...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 17:51:52 UT

In article <sd6dnR7Sh53gBpLWnZ2dnUVZ_hadn ...@posted.mtasolutions>,
Well?
Don't just sit there, what's the recipe?
I still remember (with tender feelings, rather like a bruise) the
year my son asked to bring his then-girlfriend to Thanksgiving
dinner. Girlfriend was from South Africa and I guess she was