I am very upset <sniffle>. Reading the John Norman thread has made me understand that the volunteer desk at Minicon was discriminating against me because they didn't volunteer to give me the stickers I was entitled to. And I was up there, what, how many times? Five or six or so. And I never remembered to get my badge penguin for attending the con and none of those mean nasty volunteers offered one to me. It's soooooo unfair.
Weep. Wail.
I'll never go to Minicon again.
Rachael, wondering if she spread the irony thick enough
-- Rachael M. Lininger | "Some causes of angst have not worn well." lininger@ | virtu.sar.usf.edu | Dr. A. McA. Miller
Rachael M. Lininger wrote: > I am very upset <sniffle>. Reading the John Norman thread has made me > understand that the volunteer desk at Minicon was discriminating > against me because they didn't volunteer to give me the stickers I was > entitled to. And I was up there, what, how many times? Five or six or > so. And I never remembered to get my badge penguin for attending the > con and none of those mean nasty volunteers offered one to me. It's > soooooo unfair.
> Weep. Wail.
> I'll never go to Minicon again.
> Rachael, wondering if she spread the irony thick enough
> --
The moral of the story is, next time, volunteer. You could surely do a better job than the incompetents who were running it last time, eh?
> In article <Pine.GSO.4.02.9904111225440.24132-100...@virtu.sar.usf.edu>, "Rachael M. Lininger" <linin...@virtu.sar.usf.edu> wrote: > [woe] > >I'll never go to Minicon again.
> >Rachael, wondering if she spread the irony thick enough
> Nope. To quote members of several different panels: "Was that irony? We > don't get that in Minnesota."
"Oh, ho, ho, irony! Oh, no, no, we don't get that here. See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was getting tired of being stared at." -- Steve Martin, _Roxanne_
"Rachael M. Lininger" <linin...@virtu.sar.usf.edu> wrote:
>I am very upset <sniffle>. Reading the John Norman thread has made me >understand that the volunteer desk at Minicon was discriminating >against me because they didn't volunteer to give me the stickers I was >entitled to. And I was up there, what, how many times? Five or six or >so. And I never remembered to get my badge penguin for attending the >con and none of those mean nasty volunteers offered one to me. It's >soooooo unfair.
>Weep. Wail.
>I'll never go to Minicon again.
>Rachael, wondering if she spread the irony thick enough
Maybe it was something you wrote? :)
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In article <3710E0DF.3611F...@erols.com>, Brenda <clo...@erols.com> wrote:
>The moral of the story is, next time, volunteer. You could surely do a >better job than the incompetents who were running it last time, eh?
It being 'Minicon'.
It's a good thing that we Minicon volunteers who also own bookstores are self assured individuals who have senses of humour and long memories[1].
Now, do I file 'Clough' over in the vampire erotica section [2] or just go hang myself?
James Nicoll
2: Not that I have one but I probably should judging by how the Anita Blake[3] and Poppy Z. Brite material whips out of here.
3: Not erotica, I know. More 'How to by example of what not to do' or _The Catholic Guilt Guide to Polyamory_.
-- "The initial over-all composition, purporting to traverse the nation, deliberately overlooked a large piece of the nation--Chicago to Cheyenne. [...] For more than a billion years, little to nothing had happened there." _Annals of the Former World_, John McPhee
.. who has stated that the reporters from Private Eye can, and I quote 'kiss my ass' after they wrote a particularly scathing revue of one of her novels. I have the forged press pass, the dirty mac... <sigh>(*)
(*)I've just given my third lecture on Life, the Universe and Climbing Plants in a week. My brain hurts.
-- Julian Flood Life, the Universe and Climbing Plants at www.argonet.co.uk/users/julesf. Mind the diddley skiffle folk.
<jul...@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > (James Nicoll) wrote: >> Poppy Z. Brite
>.. who has stated that the reporters from Private Eye can, and I quote 'kiss >my ass' after they wrote a particularly scathing revue of one of her novels. >I have the forged press pass, the dirty mac... <sigh>(*)
>(*)I've just given my third lecture on Life, the Universe and Climbing >Plants in a week. My brain hurts.
Hmm . . . must be spring, eh?
There was an open house at a wholesale nursery up in the mountains on Saturday -- I got the nice fellow three evergreen azaleas and a tiny rhododendron as an early birthday present -- it promptly rained from then to this, so I couldn't plant them for fear of rot and mold overtaking them.
>>.. who has stated that the reporters from Private Eye can, and I quote 'kiss >>my ass' after they wrote a particularly scathing revue of one of her novels. >>I have the forged press pass, the dirty mac... <sigh>(*)
>>(*)I've just given my third lecture on Life, the Universe and Climbing >>Plants in a week. My brain hurts.
>Hmm . . . must be spring, eh?
>There was an open house at a wholesale nursery up in the mountains >on Saturday -- I got the nice fellow three evergreen azaleas and a >tiny rhododendron as an early birthday present -- it promptly >rained from then to this, so I couldn't plant them for fear of rot >and mold overtaking them.
>The nice man likes _pink_ little flowers.
Just a darn minute. Erotica is one thing but you've put my name in a -greenporn- thread.
Hmmmph. Be claiming you get gardening journals for the articles next.
James Nicoll
-- "The initial over-all composition, purporting to traverse the nation, deliberately overlooked a large piece of the nation--Chicago to Cheyenne. [...] For more than a billion years, little to nothing had happened there." _Annals of the Former World_, John McPhee
(Lucy Kemnitzer) wrote: > Hmm . . . must be spring, eh?
For winter's rains and ruins are over And all the season of snows and sins the days dividing lover and lover The light that loses, the night that wins; And time remembered is grief forgotten And frosts are slain and flowers begotten And in green underwood and cover Blossom by blossom the spring begins.
Actually it has been snowing in Coney Weston.(*) Maybe that should be 'when the hounds of spring are on winter's traces...'
(*) But it was a _good_ day.(**)
(**)Obsf. Now who else remembers that one?
-- Julian Flood Life, the Universe and Climbing Plants at www.argonet.co.uk/users/julesf. Mind the diddley skiffle folk.
>>>.. who has stated that the reporters from Private Eye can, and I quote 'kiss >>>my ass' after they wrote a particularly scathing revue of one of her novels. >>>I have the forged press pass, the dirty mac... <sigh>(*)
>>>(*)I've just given my third lecture on Life, the Universe and Climbing >>>Plants in a week. My brain hurts.
>>Hmm . . . must be spring, eh?
>>There was an open house at a wholesale nursery up in the mountains >>on Saturday -- I got the nice fellow three evergreen azaleas and a >>tiny rhododendron as an early birthday present -- it promptly >>rained from then to this, so I couldn't plant them for fear of rot >>and mold overtaking them.
>>The nice man likes _pink_ little flowers.
> Just a darn minute. Erotica is one thing but you've put >my name in a -greenporn- thread.
> Hmmmph. Be claiming you get gardening journals for the >articles next.
No, I claim no such thing. I _own_ my lust. I get them for graphic renditions of big juicy flowers that stand erect among the bushes.
And I sigh for sunnier beds, where such fervid things can happen. My own, alas, are shady.
Lucy Kemnitzer
> James Nicoll
>-- > "The initial over-all composition, purporting to traverse the >nation, deliberately overlooked a large piece of the nation--Chicago >to Cheyenne. [...] For more than a billion years, little to nothing >had happened there." _Annals of the Former World_, John McPhee
Yes, well, did you ever try to actually _learn_ anything from a McPhee book? I will never ever forgive him for _Assembling California_, which is so artsy you can never ever put together any narrative other than "my pet geologists invented plate tectonics."
<jul...@argonet.co.uk> wrote: > (Lucy Kemnitzer) wrote: >> Hmm . . . must be spring, eh?
>For winter's rains and ruins are over >And all the season of snows and sins >the days dividing lover and lover >The light that loses, the night that wins; >And time remembered is grief forgotten >And frosts are slain and flowers begotten >And in green underwood and cover >Blossom by blossom the spring begins.
That's _your_ winter and spring.
Our winter is more like your spring: wet and green and cool, full of straining life, followed by a soft, blooming spring, and a dry, foggy summer when plants go dormant.
>Actually it has been snowing in Coney Weston.(*) Maybe that should be 'when >the hounds of spring are on winter's traces...'
You know, place names like Coney Weston are way too cute.
But I'm not objecting.
Lucy Kemnitzer
>(*) But it was a _good_ day.(**)
>(**)Obsf. Now who else remembers that one?
I don't. But I'm still waiting to figure out the reference at the end of the crow clade story.
(Lucy Kemnitzer) wrote: > You know, place names like Coney Weston are way too cute.
Konig west tun, the west farm of the king. Boudicca country. When I was secretary of the parish council I moved the bank account. The form asked for the date that the organisation was founded. I put 'Not known. First mentioned in 1086.' Best village name I've ever seen was Compton Viables.
> >(*) But it was a _good_ day.(**)
> >(**)Obsf. Now who else remembers that one?
> I don't.
Dorothy knows this.
> But I'm still waiting to figure out the reference at the > end of the crow clade story.
Dorothy knows this, too, even though she hasn't seen it. Dorothy knows nearly everything, but not her Swinburne -- mind you, I've always thought the hounds of spring was Tennyson and was surprised to find it when I looked up the other poem. There's a frost tonight.
Plants for shade: Try to find out if Clematis macropetala grows in your area. If so, kill to get one. I must get a picture of it on the sebsite, it is truly wonderful, hardy, shade tolerant, blue. Or white. Or pink.
OBSF: the kudzu-like climber that dissolved a spaceship for its materials -- now that's digging really deep, read it in the sixth form, back in nineteen mumble mumble...
-- Julian Flood Life, the Universe and Climbing Plants at www.argonet.co.uk/users/julesf. Mind the diddley skiffle folk.
In article <na.1e6ce348f2.a700d0jul...@argonet.co.uk>, Julian Flood <jul...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> Dorothy knows this, too, even though she hasn't seen it. Dorothy knows >nearly everything, but not her Swinburne -- mind you, I've always thought >the hounds of spring was Tennyson and was surprised to find it when I looked >up the other poem. There's a frost tonight.
I have looked up the poem again (I love trn): you're right, it's gotta be Swinburne. Too much alliteration to survive.
> Plants for shade: Try to find out if Clematis macropetala grows in your >area. If so, kill to get one. I must get a picture of it on the sebsite, it >is truly wonderful, hardy, shade tolerant, blue. Or white. Or pink.
I'll ask at Westbrae Nursery tomorrow; I have to go get some snail bait anyway. My gut feeling is that Clematis *anything* will grow in the East Bay, but I'll find out.
> > (Lucy Kemnitzer) wrote: > >> Hmm . . . must be spring, eh?
> >For winter's rains and ruins are over > >And all the season of snows and sins > >the days dividing lover and lover > >The light that loses, the night that wins; > >And time remembered is grief forgotten > >And frosts are slain and flowers begotten > >And in green underwood and cover > >Blossom by blossom the spring begins.
> That's _your_ winter and spring.
Our winter and spring have been like that for a while too, this is third century:
When will my spring come? When will the swallows dart back with my tongue? When will the leaves be reborn on the bough and the colours emerge on the Earth? My song has chilled into silence, unstirred by the warmth of Apollo. Amyklai raised no alarm in these wintry silences hope can perish. Let tomorrow erupt with Spring! Let tomorrow bloom love for the loveless, and for the lover, love.
Pervigilium Veneris - oddly one often enough sees the last two lines quoted but rarely the rest.
> Our winter is more like your spring: wet and green and cool, full > of straining life, followed by a soft, blooming spring, and a dry, > foggy summer when plants go dormant.
I think trying to apply the European notion of four seasons to a continental climate that just doesn't have that pattern was probably a mistake. We have four seasons of roughly equal length. I saw spring hit Canada the way it hits in :The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe:, the equivalent of January into April all in one weekend. Wow.
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> (Lucy Kemnitzer) wrote: > > Hmm . . . must be spring, eh?
> For winter's rains and ruins are over > And all the season of snows and sins > the days dividing lover and lover > The light that loses, the night that wins; > And time remembered is grief forgotten > And frosts are slain and flowers begotten > And in green underwood and cover > Blossom by blossom the spring begins.
The river courses wise expound runes of walls and shifted ground; White ice is broken, white birches green -- the water-crossing wind-wing's sheen shows above the year's first furrows raxed out over the roof of the merrows. Wild geese scream at the morning glory; the green world wake to wider story. -- graydon@ | Hige sceal že heardra, heorte že cenre, lara.on.ca | mod sceal že mare že ure maegen lytlaš. | -- Beorhtwold, "The Battle of Maldon"
Jo Walton <J...@bluejo.demon.co.uk> writes: > I think trying to apply the European notion of four seasons to a > continental climate that just doesn't have that pattern was probably > a mistake. We have four seasons of roughly equal length. I saw spring > hit Canada the way it hits in :The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe:, > the equivalent of January into April all in one weekend. Wow.
That _part_ of Canada.
Keith Morrison probably hasn't had spring quite yet; Soiux St. Marie probably hasn't, either, although that would have been a long drive. -- graydon@ | Hige sceal že heardra, heorte že cenre, lara.on.ca | mod sceal že mare že ure maegen lytlaš. | -- Beorhtwold, "The Battle of Maldon"
In article <7f370e$de...@lara.on.ca>, gray...@lara.on.ca says...
>Jo Walton <J...@bluejo.demon.co.uk> writes: >> I think trying to apply the European notion of four seasons to a >> continental climate that just doesn't have that pattern was probably >> a mistake. We have four seasons of roughly equal length. I saw spring >> hit Canada the way it hits in :The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe:, >> the equivalent of January into April all in one weekend. Wow.
>That _part_ of Canada.
>Keith Morrison probably hasn't had spring quite yet; Soiux St. Marie >probably hasn't, either, although that would have been a long drive.
Not to mention that this part of Canada relapsed into November for a couple of days last week. Bluddy snow....
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In article <CokR2.1585$Qi2.3...@newsfeed.slurp.net>,
Steve Patterson <no_spam_spatter...@wwdc.com> wrote:
>Not to mention that this part of Canada relapsed into November for a couple >of days last week. Bluddy snow....
This part of California did the same sort of thing last week, though of course not with snow. It rained copiously (April's a little late for that, but not unheard of) and it was *cold*. Where'd it get cold from?
Yeah, that part has spring bustin' out all over, but it stills snows, most mornings. (It is very hard to dress for both -4 AND +15 on the same day....)
> Keith Morrison probably hasn't had spring quite yet; Soiux St. Marie
Soiux? Did you mean Sioux? Actually, it is Sault, in point of fact, but I rather prefer your rendition, as it does make a certain visual sense.
> probably hasn't, either, although that would have been a long drive.
But you get to visit any number of small towns along the way!
> In article <CokR2.1585$Qi2.3...@newsfeed.slurp.net>, > Steve Patterson <no_spam_spatter...@wwdc.com> wrote: > >Not to mention that this part of Canada relapsed into November for a couple > >of days last week. Bluddy snow....
> This part of California did the same sort of thing last week, > though of course not with snow. It rained copiously (April's a > little late for that, but not unheard of) and it was *cold*. > Where'd it get cold from?
There's an enormous amount of cold Southern Ontario hasn't been getting the last several winters; presumably it's wandering around the atmosphere feeling lonely and rejected and trying to make friends with various other climatic regions. -- graydon@ | Hige sceal že heardra, heorte že cenre, lara.on.ca | mod sceal že mare že ure maegen lytlaš. | -- Beorhtwold, "The Battle of Maldon"
>Dorothy J Heydt <djhe...@kithrup.com> writes: >> This part of California did the same sort of thing last week, >> though of course not with snow. It rained copiously (April's a >> little late for that, but not unheard of) and it was *cold*. >> Where'd it get cold from?
>There's an enormous amount of cold Southern Ontario hasn't been >getting the last several winters; presumably it's wandering around the >atmosphere feeling lonely and rejected and trying to make friends with >various other climatic regions.
What a wonderful image.
I don't suppose people could mention that it's got friends in Florida. Please?
Rachael
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