> My great grandmother is from french Guiana in the South Americas, she > was an indian. I have always wanted a tattoo with a symbol > representing something meaningful to her people. I am unable to find > anything on the net...does anyone know what I should do?
Try one of those buildings that holds a lot of books. What's it called?
Yes, a library.
And you might narrow that Indian thing down a bit.
But I'm curious that if it is something you've wanted all your life, you had to have been exposed to the culture some way. Try that person or that painting or that picture, etc.
> My great grandmother is from french Guiana in the South Americas, she > was an indian. I have always wanted a tattoo with a symbol > representing something meaningful to her people. I am unable to find > anything on the net...does anyone know what I should do?
"The main Amerindian groups (forming about 3%-4% of the population) are the Arawak, Emerillon, Galibi (now called the Kaliņa), Palikour, Wayampi (also known as Oyampi) and Wayana."
May not be at all related to your great grandmother, however a link that leads to - imo - some very interesting reading:
Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote: Kavin Taylor wrote:
kt> >But I'm curious that if it is something you've wanted all your life, kt> >you had to have been exposed to the culture some way. Try that person kt> >or that painting or that picture, etc.
tc> Well, I only realised a few years back that my grandfather was half tc> indian...it kinda slipped out...
And your original statement was:
tc>> My great grandmother is from french Guiana in the South Americas, she tc>> was an indian. I have always wanted a tattoo with a symbol tc>> representing something meaningful to her people.
Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote: > "Curt James" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote: > >Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote:
> >> Hello!
> >> My great grandmother is from french Guiana in the South Americas, she > >> was an indian. I have always wanted a tattoo with a symbol > >> representing something meaningful to her people. I am unable to find > >> anything on the net...does anyone know what I should do? > >[...]
> >"The main Amerindian groups (forming about 3%-4% of the population) are > >the Arawak, Emerillon, Galibi (now called the Kaliņa), Palikour, > >Wayampi (also known as Oyampi) and Wayana."
> >May not be at all related to your great grandmother, however a link > >that leads to - imo - some very interesting reading:
> Yeah, I've read those pages, it is very interesting. Have also read > the book 'Papillon' by Henri Charriere which is an account of his > imprisonment on Devil Island, and his final escape.
I've never read the book, but saw the movie on the big screen. IMDb says I must have been 11 or 12. Awesome flick.
Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote: > "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com> wrote: > >tc> Well, I only realised a few years back that my grandfather was half > >tc> indian...it kinda slipped out...
Why did you use "slipped out?"
> About 5 years ago. I could have stated 'as long as I have wanted a > tattoo, I've wanted one that is meaningful to me, not the > yin-yang-stuff Kavin wants...
You toss terms rather flippantly. 'Indian" is a vague term. Which group, or don't you know? And it's not yin-yang here.
How meaningful can this really be if you are asking us for patterns? For five years you've wanted something meaningful to you, but you don't know what it could be.
I'd suggest you take another five years to do some family history work. It this is as meaningful as you think, you'll find what you're looking for.
>>kt> >But I'm curious that if it is something you've wanted all your >>life, >>kt> >you had to have been exposed to the culture some way. Try that >>person >>kt> >or that painting or that picture, etc.
>>tc> Well, I only realised a few years back that my grandfather was half >>tc> indian...it kinda slipped out...
>>And your original statement was:
>>tc>> My great grandmother is from french Guiana in the South Americas, >>she >>tc>> was an indian. I have always wanted a tattoo with a symbol >>tc>> representing something meaningful to her people.
>>So always wanted is what, two years ago?
>>Think a little longer, skippy.
> About 5 years ago. I could have stated 'as long as I have wanted a > tattoo, I've wanted one that is meaningful to me, not the > yin-yang-stuff Kavin wants...
Blah, your idea is fucking lame. Go get a yosemite sam or something.
> Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote: >> "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >tc> Well, I only realised a few years back that my grandfather was half >> >tc> indian...it kinda slipped out...
> Why did you use "slipped out?"
>> About 5 years ago. I could have stated 'as long as I have wanted a >> tattoo, I've wanted one that is meaningful to me, not the >> yin-yang-stuff Kavin wants...
> You toss terms rather flippantly. 'Indian" is a vague term. Which > group, or don't you know? And it's not yin-yang here.
> How meaningful can this really be if you are asking us for patterns? > For five years you've wanted something meaningful to you, but you don't > know what it could be.
> I'd suggest you take another five years to do some family history > work. It this is as meaningful as you think, you'll find what you're > looking for.
> Or you'll just get drunk and get a Taz.
See, this moron doesnt realize that hes the 8841 person to come through here in the last ten years asking everyone around here to do his himwork for him so he doesnt have to spend too much time coming up with THE TATTOO THAT HE ALWAYS WANTED.
And come on. An indian in norway? A cabbie indian maybe, but no way a bourbon indian.
> >Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote: > >> "Curt James" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote:
> >> >> Hello!
> >> >> My great grandmother is from french Guiana in the South Americas, she > >> >> was an indian. I have always wanted a tattoo with a symbol > >> >> representing something meaningful to her people. I am unable to find > >> >> anything on the net...does anyone know what I should do? > >> >[...]
> >> >"The main Amerindian groups (forming about 3%-4% of the population) are > >> >the Arawak, Emerillon, Galibi (now called the Kaliņa), Palikour, > >> >Wayampi (also known as Oyampi) and Wayana."
> >> >May not be at all related to your great grandmother, however a link > >> >that leads to - imo - some very interesting reading:
> >> Yeah, I've read those pages, it is very interesting. Have also read > >> the book 'Papillon' by Henri Charriere which is an account of his > >> imprisonment on Devil Island, and his final escape.
> >I've never read the book, but saw the movie on the big screen. IMDb > >says I must have been 11 or 12. Awesome flick.
> The book is even better...a very detailed account... > -- > Thomas Christopher Jarvis - I do what I like, I like what I do
> "You're young, you're drunk, you're in bed, you have knives; > shit happens." - Angelina Jolie
His "autobiography" is just a fictionalized conglomeration of stories he collected. Granted part of it was true but nowhere near the whole story. "Modern researchers, however, believe that Charričre got much of his story material from other inmates, and see the work as more fictionalized than a true autobiography. In 2005, a 104-year-old man in Paris, Charles Brunier, claimed to be the real Papillon. Modern critics tend to agree that Charričre's depictions included events that happened to others, and that Brunier was at the prison at the same time."
If you want to read a true autobiography, read Rene Belbenoits' "Dry Guillotine".
If this is the level of your research, you may end up with a taz tattoo after all. wasn't he a real indigenous Tasmanian mammal. In regards to wanting a tattoo to commemorate your theoretical heritage, do some real research, find out WHAT ACTUAL FUCKING TRIBE your G-grandmother belonged to, find out what their symbology was and how it may have pertained to HER LIFE and then you might get a meaningful tattoo out of it. Or listen to Curt.
Yup, plus if the original poster typed Guyana instead of guiana (which curt ommited to correct btw) he'd find even more material...he might even try googling Guyane Francaise, just saying...
Yes, he might. And that information - "Guyane franįaise" - is also offered by the Wiki page.
It would appear that you, Corine, have commented without actually following the Wiki link.
> just saying...
Exactly.
> Corine
In fact, it looks like you many not only have disregarded the Wiki link, but most of the thread as if you had not then perhaps you would have read my initial question for the OP - "What did your search include?"
But, hey, thanks for reinforcing my original offering.
Say, do /you/ have an opinion on either the film or the book also mentioned in this thead? Oh, that's right, you didn't read all of the thread. Take your time. It's all still available, right?
Wikipedia is a bogus organization promoted by the companies about which Wikipedia articles are written. They pay the wikipedia users millions of Dollars to let them use their names with the blessing of the Wikipedia adminstrators. I tried to edit wikipedia articles to set the matters straight. My computer got Blocked by wikipedia adminstrators zimzalabim and others. Wikipedia is a fraudulent organization
> Wikipedia is a bogus organization promoted by the companies about which > Wikipedia articles are written. They pay the wikipedia users millions of > Dollars to let them use their names with the blessing of the Wikipedia > adminstrators. I tried to edit wikipedia articles to set the matters > straight. My computer got Blocked by wikipedia adminstrators zimzalabim > and others. Wikipedia is a fraudulent organization
Okay then.
Still...
In December 2005, the science journal "Nature" compared Wikipedia with Encyclopedia Britannica. The journal used scientists to compare some of the two encyclopedias' articles on natural sciences. The journal concluded that the "difference in accuracy was not particularly great," although Britannica is now debating the validity of the study. /From: http://www.theplainsman.com/campus/the_war_on_wikipedia
> In December 2005, the science journal "Nature" compared Wikipedia > with Encyclopedia Britannica. The journal used scientists to compare > some of the two encyclopedias' articles on natural sciences. The > journal concluded that the "difference in accuracy was not > particularly great," although Britannica is now debating the validity > of the study. /From: > http://www.theplainsman.com/campus/the_war_on_wikipedia
Great. So you start with the science journal "Nature" and end with a quote from a third tier college, Auburn University-Montgomery. A student newspaper, which, by the way, is probably not even listed with the collegiate press association (didn't check, don't care).
> > In December 2005, the science journal "Nature" compared Wikipedia > > with Encyclopedia Britannica. The journal used scientists to compare > > some of the two encyclopedias' articles on natural sciences. The > > journal concluded that the "difference in accuracy was not > > particularly great," although Britannica is now debating the validity > > of the study. /From: > > http://www.theplainsman.com/campus/the_war_on_wikipedia
> Great. So you start with the science journal "Nature" and end with a > quote from a third tier college, Auburn University-Montgomery. A > student newspaper,
And?
> which, by the way, is probably not even listed with the collegiate > press association (didn't check, don't care).
Right. Don't care, eh? I've noticed.
Perhaps the following will be of just as much interest, eh?
Absolutely. Well, almost. The course, iirc, was eight weeks in length back in the day.
Still, and, yeah, again, your underoos-inna-bunch-edness reflects only on you, Kavvy. Regardless, thank you for putting the Defense Information School (DINFOS) in the spotlight. Memories are a good thing.
What had been the Basic Journalism Course (BJC) appears to have been renamed the Basic Public Affairs Specialist-Writer (BPAS-W) course, a 12-week course. "This course is the initial training for dual qualification of students in both journalism and broadcasting," according to information available at https://www.atrrs.army.mil/atrrscc/courseinfo.aspx?fy=2007&sch=212&cr...
That link also leads to text that offers, "The Navy is the only service that requires their students to attend both DINFOS-BPAS-W/AFIS-BJC and DINFOS-BPAS-B/AFIS-BBC (dual track)."
Apparently the print and broadcast training components are a package deal now. When I was serving in the military, the Basic Broadcaster Course was awarded to only a few graduates of the print course. In fact, another sailor and I, though invited to the broadcast training, had to successfully complete voice and diction training for a few weeks as a prerequisite for BBC training.
And - I'm certain you'll be interested to know - the Basic Broadcaster Course has since been renamed the Basic Public Affairs Specialist-Broadcaster (BPAS-B) course which is 10 weeks and four days in length.
Somewhere along the line, I also completed Shipboard Information Training and Entertainment (SITE) training which consisted of two weeks of learning how to operated the shipboard CCTV system and associated equipment.
Belittle the training all you'd like. It was hella fun and more. I'm proud to have served on the USS Richard E. Byrd as a Navy journalist.
> God knows what you're teaching the kids.
That two plus two will always equal four, but that art is subjective. And, of course, to check with more than one source. To wit:
I especially liked this bit from the article available at the other end of that link:
But it really does follow the open source model, which is that more eyeballs make all bugs shallow. Meaning: the more people that see it, the more obvious you'll be able to get those bugs or inaccuracies out of it." /cnn.com
And, speaking of CNN, none other than The New York Times offered the following re Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia's co-founder, and his creation's popularity:
>From the start, Mr. Wales gave the site a clear mission: to offer free
knowledge to everybody on the planet. At the same time, he put in place a set of rules and policies that he continues to promote, like the need to present information with a neutral point of view.
> > > In December 2005, the science journal "Nature" compared Wikipedia > > > with Encyclopedia Britannica. <snip blablabla> > And, yes, it's all about the discussion, Kavin.
*You're missing the point here: we don't give a shit :)
> *You're missing the point here: we don't give a shit :)
Yes, of course. Your comment, "if the original poster typed Guyana instead of guiana (which curt ommited to correct btw)," indicates as much, doesn't it?
> It still amazes me when Europeans speak of > countries the way we speak of states.
Not exactly a surprise.
> "Oh, we'll just pop over to France" as if it is > the same as "I'll just pop over to Florida."
Been out of Georgia much?
I've traveled from Ghent, Belgium to Paris, France (about 200 miles) and I've traveled from Lancaster, PA to Daytona Beach, FL (about a thousand miles), so, yeah, it's all relative.
> Wacky.
> But then, there is a beach or two in Florida . . .
Curt James wrote: > I've traveled from Ghent, Belgium to Paris, France (about 200 miles) > and I've traveled from Lancaster, PA to Daytona Beach, FL (about a > thousand miles), so, yeah, it's all relative.
And you've not made any friends in any of those places.
Curt, it was just a statement. Why'd you feel a need to get involved? Just to show how miserable you are?
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