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Bruce Majors  
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From: Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:53:00 -0500
Subject: Fort Hood's 9/11

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/fort_hood_xjP9yGr...
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Fort Hood's 9/11

By RALPH PETERS

Last Updated: 2:50 PM, November 6, 2009

Posted: 1:36 PM, November 6, 2009

On Thursday afternoon, a radicalized Muslim US Army officer shouting "Allahu
Akbar!" committed the worst act of terror on American soil since 9/11. And
no one wants to call it an act of terror or associate it with Islam.

What cowards we are. Political correctness killed those patriotic Americans
at Ft. Hood as surely as the Islamist gunman did. And the media treat it
like a case of non-denominational shoplifting.

This was a terrorist act. When an extremist plans and executes a murderous
plot against our unarmed soldiers to protest our efforts to counter Islamist
fanatics, it's an act of terror. Period.

When the terrorist posts anti-American hate-speech on the Web; apparently
praises suicide bombers and uses his own name; loudly criticizes US
policies; argues (as a psychiatrist, no less) with his military patients
over the worth of their sacrifices; refuses, in the name of Islam, to be
photographed with female colleagues; lists his nationality as "Palestinian"
in a Muslim spouse-matching program, and parades around central Texas in a
fundamentalist playsuit - well, it only seems fair to call this terrorist an
"Islamist terrorist."

But the president won't. Despite his promise to get to all the facts.
Because there's no such thing as "Islamist terrorism" in ObamaWorld.

And the Army won't. Because its senior leaders are so sick with political
correctness that pandering to America-haters is safer than calling terrorism
"terrorism."

And the media won't. Because they have more interest in the shooter than in
our troops - despite their crocodile tears.

Maj. Nadal Malik Hasan planned this terrorist attack and executed it in cold
blood. The resulting massacre was the first tragedy. The second was that he
wasn't killed on the spot.

Hasan survived. Now the rest of us will have to foot his massive medical
bills. Activist lawyers will get involved, claiming "harassment" drove him
temporarily insane. There'll be no end of trial delays. At best, taxpayer
dollars will fund his prison lifestyle for decades to come, since our
politically correct Army leadership wouldn't dare pursue or carry out the
death penalty.

Maj. Hasan will be a hero to Islamist terrorists abroad and their
sympathizers here. While US Muslim organizations decry his acts publicly,
Hasan will be praised privately. And he'll have the last laugh.

But Hasan isn't the sole guilty party. The US Army's unforgivable political
correctness is also to blame for the casualties at Ft. Hood.

Given the myriad warning signs, it's appalling that no action was taken
against a man apparently known to praise suicide bombers and openly damn US
policy. But no officer in his chain of command, either at Walter Reed Army
Medical Center or at Ft. Hood, had the guts to take meaningful action
against a dysfunctional soldier and an incompetent doctor.

Had Hasan been a Lutheran or a Methodist, he would've been gone with the
simoon. But officers fear charges of discrimination when faced with
misconduct among protected minorities.

Now 12 soldiers and a security guard lie dead. 31 soldiers were wounded, 28
of them seriously. If heads don't roll in this maggot's chain of command,
the Army will have shamed itself beyond moral redemption.

There's another important issue, too. How could the Army allow an obviously
incompetent and dysfunctional psychiatrist to treat our troubled soldiers
returning from war? An Islamist whacko is counseled for arguing with
veterans who've been assigned to his care? And he's not removed from duty?
What planet does the Army live on?

For the first time since I joined the Army in 1976, I'm ashamed of its
dereliction of duty. The chain of command protected a budding terrorist who
was waving one red flag after another. Because it was safer for careers than
doing something about him.

Get ready for the apologias. We've already heard from the terrorist's family
that "he's a good American." In their world, maybe he is.

But when do we, the American public, knock off the PC nonsense?

A disgruntled Muslim soldier murdered his officers way back in 2003, in
Kuwait, on the eve of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Recently? An American mullah
shoots it out with the feds in Detroit. A Muslim fanatic attacks an Arkansas
recruiting station. A Muslim media owner, after playing the peace card,
beheads his wife. A Muslim father runs over his daughter because she's
becoming too Westernized.

Muslim terrorist wannabes are busted again and again. And we're assured that
"Islam's a religion of peace."

I guarantee you that the Obama administration's non-response to the Ft. Hood
attack will mock the memory of our dead.

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Ralph Peters' latest novel is "The War After Armageddon."

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From: plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:29:25 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 20:29
Subject: Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
a radicalized Muslim US Army officer
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when will our law makers realize that nobody, except Americans, should
be allowed to serve?

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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:06:08 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 01:06
Subject: Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
plain,

Hasan was born and raised in the U.S. He is an American, he's just an
American that has committed a terrible crime.

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From: Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 01:35:07 -0500
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 06:35
Subject: Re: Fort Hood's 9/11

No Holly, he is a terrorist, who murdered 13 Americans in their home, and
wounded another 30something.

This was a travesty that was causecd by folks like you, and your political
correctness, and for that, you should feel a lot of guilt!!

The Army, in their political correctness, ignored the fact that this man was
counseling soldiers coming back from a war zone that they were, "Killing
Wrongly".

The FBI ignored the fact that this man was posting messages encouraging
Jihad, and the justification of suicidal terrorists.

You, and other far left extremist Moonbats, as well as those who are
attempting to be politically correct, ignore the fact that this man jumped
up on a table, and spewed out a mouthful of Anti-American rhetoric and a
"Ali al Akbar/Praise Allah"  before he opened fire on our very own!!

You should revaluate your position on this, and start watching other sources
of news, than obviously whatever it is that you are watching!!


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From: Hollywood <jims29...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:27:41 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
KIT,

Don't be ridiculous. He is an American Army officer, born and raised
in America. He is an American.
The fact you don't seem to like that does not and cannot change that
fact.
I repeat, he is a American who has committed serious crimes and
disgraced his uniform. Pretty sure his crimes will qualify him for the
death penality under the UCMJ and that is exactly what he deserves.

Don't be childish and ridiculous, you must have spent too much time
hanging around radical conservatives and moving your lips while
reading all their bumper stickers and ball caps.

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From: Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:36:07 -0500
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Holly,

I don't give a shit where he was born.  He is a Muslim, who stood up before
he blew away thirteen Americans and wounded another 30,  and yelled "Praise
Allah" before he let loose.  That is a terrorist act, in the name of Islam.
If it were a Christian that yelled, "Praise God" before he opened fire at an
abortion clinic, you and all of your socialist brethren would be clamoring
for laws to tie the hands of "Christian Terrorists".

Let's call spades, "spades";  and admit that we have a problem with Islam,


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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:57:22 -0500
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amazing how oblivious and defensive the average demwit is

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:02:09 -0500
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Fort Hood shooting: Texas army killer linked to September 11 terroristsMajor
Nidal Malik Hasan worshipped at a mosque led by a radical imam said to be a
"spiritual adviser" to three of the hijackers who attacked America on Sept
11, 2001.

By Philip Sherwell and Alex Spillius
Published: 8:17PM GMT 07 Nov 2009
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[image: Major Nidal Malik Hasan: Fort Hood shooting: Texas army killer
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Major Nidal Malik Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US
soldiers in TexasPhoto: GETTY

Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas,
attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in
2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday
Telegraph has learnt. His mother's funeral was held there in May that year.

The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni
scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in
August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and
backing terrorist organisations.

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Hasan's eyes "lit up" when he mentioned his deep respect for al-Awlaki's
teachings, according to a fellow Muslim officer at the Fort Hood base in
Texas, the scene of Thursday's horrific shooting spree.

As investigators look at Hasan's motives and mindset, his attendance at the
mosque could be an important piece of the jigsaw. Al-Awlaki moved to Dar
al-Hijrah as imam in January, 2001, from the west coast, and three months
later the September 11 hijackers Nawaf al-Hamzi and Hani Hanjour began
attending his services. A third hijacker attended his services in
California.

Hasan was praying at Dar al-Hijrah at about the same time, and the FBI will
now want to investigate whether he met the two terrorists.

Charles Allen, a former under-secretary for intelligence at the Department
of Homeland Security, has described al-Awlaki, who now lives in Yemen, as an
"al-Qaeda supporter, and former spiritual leader to three of the September
11 hijackers... who targets US Muslims with radical online lectures
encouraging terrorist attacks from his new home in Yemen".

Last night Hasan remained in a coma under guard at a military hospital in
San Antonio, Texas, and was said to be in a "stable" condition. Born in
America to a Palestinian family, Hasan, 39, was an army psychiatrist who had
chosen to sign up for the US military against his parents' wishes.

But he turned into an angry critic of the wars America was waging in Iraq
and Afghanistan and had tried in vain to negotiate his discharge.

He counselled soldiers returning from the front line and told relatives that
he was horrified at the prospect of a deployment to Afghanistan later this
year – his first time in a combat zone.

Whether due to his personal convictions, his stress over his deployment or
other reasons, Hasan is alleged to have snapped and gone on a murderous
rampage with a powerful semi-automatic handgun after shouting "Allahu
Akhbar" ("God is great"), according to survivors. He had earlier given away
copies of the Koran to neighbours.

Investigators at this stage have no indication that he planned the attacks
with anyone else. But they are trawling through his phone records, paperwork
and computers he used before the attack during an apparently sleepless
night.

Five of the 13 victims were fellow mental health professionals from three
units of the army's Combat Stress Control Detachment, it was disclosed
yesterday.

It is understood that Hasan had been due to be deployed with members of
those units in coming months. Whether he deliberately singled out other
combat stress counsellors is another key question.

What does seem clear is that the army missed an increasing number of red
flags that Hasan was a troubled and brooding individual within its ranks.

"I was shocked but not surprised by news of Thursday's attack," said Dr Val
Finnell, a fellow student on a public health course in 2007-08 who heard
Hasan equate the war on terrorism to a war on Islam. Another student had
warned military officials that Hasan was a "ticking time bomb" after he
reportedly gave a presentation defending suicide bombers.

Kamran Pasha, the author of *Mother of the Believers*, a new novel relating
the story of Islam from the perspective of Aisha, Prophet Mohammed's wife,
was told of the al-Awlaki connection from a Muslim friend who is also an
officer at Fort Hood. Using the name Richard, the recent convert to Islam
described how he frequently prayed with Hasan at the town mosque after Hasan
was deployed to Fort Hood in July. They last worshipped together at predawn
prayers on the day of the massacre when Hasan "appeared relaxed and not in
any way troubled or nervous".

But Richard had previously argued with Hasan when he said that he felt the
"war on terror" was really a war against Islam, expressed anti-Jewish
sentiments and defended suicide bombings.

"I asked Richard whether he believed that Hasan was motivated by religious
radicalism in his murderous actions," Mr Pasha said.

"Richard, with great sadness, said that he believed this was true. He also
believed that psychological factors from Hasan's job as an army psychiatrist
added to his pathos. The news that he would be deployed overseas, to a war
that he rejected, may have pushed him over the edge.

"But Richard does not excuse Hasan. As a Muslim, he finds Hasan's religious
perspectives to be fundamentally misguided. And as a soldier, he finds
Hasan's actions cowardly and evil."

Fellow Muslims in the US armed forces have also been quick to denounce
Hasan's actions and insist that they were the product of a lone individual
rather than of Islamic teachings. Osman Danquah, the co-founder of the
Islamic Community of Greater Killeen, said Hasan never expressed anger
toward the army or indicated any plans for violence.

But he said that, at their second meeting, Hasan seemed almost incoherent.

"I told him, 'There's something wrong with you'. I didn't get the feeling he
was talking for himself, but something just didn't seem right."

He was sufficiently troubled that he recommended the centre reject Hasan's
request to become a lay Muslim leader at Fort Hood.

Hasan had, in fact, already come to the attention of the authorities before
Thursday's massacre. He was suspected of being the author of internet
postings that compared suicide bombers with soldiers who throw themselves on
grenades to save others and had also reportedly been warned about
proselytising to patients.

At Fort Hood, he told a colleague, Col Terry Lee, that he believed Muslims
should rise up against American "aggressors". He made no attempt to hide his
desire to end his military service early or his mortification at the
prospect of deployment to Afghanistan. "He had people telling him on a daily
basis the horrors they saw over there," said his cousin, Nader Hasan.

Yet away from his strident attacks on US foreign policy, he came across as
subdued and reclusive – not hostile or threatening. Soldiers he counselled
at the Walter Reed hospital in Washington praised him, while at Fort Hood,
Kimberly Kesling, the deputy commander of clinical services, remarked: "Up
to this point, I would consider him an asset."

Relatives said that the death of Hasan's parents, in 1998 and 2001, turned
him more devout. "After he lost his parents he tried to replace their love
by reading a lot of books, including the Koran," his uncle Rafiq Hamad said.

"He didn't have a girlfriend, he didn't dance, he didn't go to bars."

His failed search for a wife seemed to haunt Hasan. At the Muslim Community
Centre in the Washington suburb of Silver Spring, he signed up for an
Islamic matchmaking service, specifying that he wanted a bride who wore the
hijab and prayed five times a day.

Adnan Haider, a retired professor of statistics, recalled how at their first
meeting last year, a casual introduction after Friday prayers, Hasan
immediately asked the academic if he knew "a nice Muslim girl" he could
marry.

"It was a strange thing to ask someone you have met two seconds before. It
was clear to me he was under pressure, you could just see it in his face,"
said Prof Haider, 74, who used to work at Georgetown University in
Washington. "You could see he was lonely and didn't have friends.

"He is working with psychiatric people and I ask why the people around him
didn't spot that something was wrong? When I heard what had happened I
actually wasn't that surprised."

Indeed, many of the characteristics attributed to Hasan by acquaintances –
withdrawn, unassuming, brooding, socially awkward and never known to
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From: Hollywood <jims29...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:39:50 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 17:39
Subject: Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
KIT,

What IS your point? If the military hangs him for multiple counts of
murder and assault with intent to murder because there is not an
offense under the UCMJ such as "terrorism" will he somehow be LESS
dead?
Why are you always wanting to talk about what you "think" I MIGHT do
IF such and such happened instead of what I actually say?

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:04:51 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
Bruce,

Oh let's be reasonable now. KIT get's overly defensive and, like most
conservatives, overly emotional. But i would not go so far as to call
him a dimwit.

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:06:38 -0500
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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:18:04 -0500
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LOL!!

Holly,

The point being, is that like most of your far left extremist socialist
brethren, you are attempting to be politically correct, and the "P-C"  is
what caused this travesty in the first place.  If the United States Army
would have acted, when this terrorist was counseling troops coming back from
a war zone that their actions were wrong;  (But instead, because of
political correctness, they shipped him off to Fort Hood)  this terrorist
act would not have happened.

It is time for all Americans to start ACTING instead of REACTING, and quit
with all of this political correctness, that is ruining our Nation!!


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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:27:40 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
KIT,

Bullshit. I'm attempting to do no such thing. What in the name of God
does your "PC rant:" have to do with what I said in my post?

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From: Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:08:41 -0500
Local: Mon 9 Nov 2009 02:08
Subject: Re: Fort Hood's 9/11

Uhm......Holly?

Here is your original statement:

"plain,
Hasan was born and raised in the U.S. He is an American, he's just an
American that has committed a terrible crime."

That is an attempt to avoid the facts, that Hassan was a terrorist, who
committed a terroristic act against our own troops, in their home!  That is
the epitome of being "Politically Correct".

Wake up and smell the coffee Holly!!


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From: Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:03:39 -0500
Local: Mon 9 Nov 2009 03:03
Subject: Re: Fort Hood's 9/11

Here is a message that I just received, which sheds even more light on what
happened last week at Fort Hood:

This was sent to  me by a dear friend from here in Southern California down
the beach from me is this school.
Sent: 11/7/2009 1:21:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time
Subj: What Happened

The following was sent to me by someone in the Army at Fort Hood, in Texas,
this person graduated from the Redondo High School as I did.......terrible
day for all........hugs,  Barbara

What happened.
 Since I don't know when I'll sleep (it's 4 am now) I'll write what happened
(the abbreviated version.....the long one is already part of the
investigation with more to come).  I'll not write about any part of the
investigation that I've learned about since (as a witness I know more than I
should since inevitably my JAG brothers and sisters are deeply involved in
the investigation).  Don't assume that most of the current media accounts
are very accurate.  They're not.  They'll improve with time.  Only those of
us who were there really know what went down.  But as they collate our
statements they'll get it right.

I did my SRP last week (Soldier Readiness Processing) but you're supposed to
come back a week later to have them look at the smallpox vaccination site
(it's this big itchy growth on your shoulder).  I am probably alive because
I pulled a ---------- and entered the wrong building first (the main SRP
building).  The Medical SRP building is off to the side.  Realizing my
mistake I left the main building and walked down the sidewalk to the medical
SRP building.  As I'm walking up to it the gunshots start.  Slow and
methodical.  But continuous.  Two ambulatory wounded came out.  Then two
soldiers dragging a third who was covered in blood.  Hearing the shots but
not seeing the shooter, along with a couple other soldiers I stood in the
street and yelled at everyone who came running that it was clear but to
"RUN!".  I kept motioning people fast.  about 6-10 minutes later (the
shooting continuous), two cops ran up.  one male, one female.  we pointed
in the direction of the shots.  they headed that way (the medical SRP
building was about 50 meters away).  then a lot more gunfire.  a couple
minutes later a balding man in ACU's came around the building carrying a
pistol and holding it tactically.  He started shooting at us and we all
dived back to the cars behind us.  I don't think he hit the couple other
guys who were there.  I did see the bullet holes later in the cars.  First I
went behind a tire and then looked under the body of the car.

I've been trained how to respond to gunfire...but with my own weapon.  To
have no weapon I don't know how to explain what that felt like.  I hadn't
run away and stayed because I had thought about the consequences or anything
like that.  I wasn't thinking anything through.  Please understand, there
was no intention.  I was just staying there because I didn't think about
running.  It never occurred to me that he might shoot me.  Until he started
shooting in my direction and I realized I was unarmed.  Then the female cop
comes around the corner.  He shoots her.  (according to the news accounts
she got a round into him.  I believe it, I just didn't see it. he didn't go
down.)  She goes down.  He starts reloading.  He's fiddling with his mags.
Weirdly he hasn't dropped the one that was in his weapon.  He's holding the
fresh one and the old one (you do that on the range when time is not of the
essence but in combat you would just let the old mag go).  I see the male
cop around the left corner of the building.  (I'm about 15-20 meters from
the shooter.)  I yell at the cop, "He's reloading, he's reloading.  Shoot
him! Shoot him!)  You have to understand, everything was quiet at this
point.  The cop appears to hear me and comes around the corner and shoots
the shooter.  He goes down.  The cop kicks his weapon further away.  I
sprint up to the downed female cop.  Another captain (I think he was with me
behind the cars) comes up as well.  She's bleeding profusely out of her
thigh.  We take our belts off and tourniquet her just like we've been
trained (I hope we did it right...we didn't have any CLS (combat lifesaver)
bags with their awesome tourniquets on us, so we worked with what we had).

Meanwhile, in the most bizarre moment of the day, a photographer was
standing over us taking pictures.  I suppose I'll be seeing those tomorrow.
Then a soldier came up and identified himself as a medic.  I then realized
her weapon was lying there unsecured (and on "fire").  I stood over it and
when I saw a cop yelled for him to come over and secure her weapon (I would
have done so but I was worried someone would mistake me for a bad guy).  I
then went over to the shooter.  He was unconscious.  A Lt Colonel was there
and had secured his primary weapon for the time being.  He also had a
revolver.  I couldn't believe he was one of ours.  I didn't want to believe
it.  Then I saw his name and rank and realized this wasn't just some
specialist with mental issues.  At this point there was a guy there from CID
and I asked him if he knew he was the shooter and had him secured.  He said
he did.  I then went over the slaughter house.  the medical SRP building.
No human should ever have to see what that looked like.  and I won't tell
you.  Just believe me.  Please.  there was nothing to be done there.

Someone then said there was someone critically wounded around the corner.  I
ran around (while seeing this floor to ceiling window that someone had
jumped through movie style) and saw a large African-American soldier lying
on his back with two or three soldiers attending.  I ran up and identified
two entrance wounds on the right side of his stomach, one exit wound on the
left side and one head wound.  He was not bleeding externally from the
stomach wounds (though almost certainly internally) but was bleeding from
the head wound.  A soldier was using a shirt to try and stop the head
bleeding.  He was conscious so I began talking to him to keep him so.  He
was 42, from North Carolina, he was named something Jr., his son was named
something III and he had a daughter as well.  His children lived with him.
He was divorced.  I told him the blubber on his stomach saved his life.  He
smiled.   a young soldier in civvies showed up and identified himself as a
combat medic. We debated whether to put him on the back of a pickup truck.
A doctor (well, an audiologist) showed up and said you can't move him, he
has a head wound.  we finally sat tight.  I went back to the
slaughterhouse.  they weren't letting anyone in there.  not even medics.
finally, after about 45 minutes had elapsed some cops showed up in tactical
vests.  someone said the TBI building was unsecured.  They headed into
there.  All of a sudden a couple more shots were fired.  People shouted
there was a second shooter.  a half hour later the SWAT showed up.  there
was no second shooter.  that had been an impetuous cop apparently.  but that
confused things for a while.

meanwhile I went back to the shooter.  the female cop had been taken away.
a medic was pumping plasma into the shooter.  I'm not proud of this but I
went up to her and said "this is the shooter, is there anyone else who needs
attention...do them first".  she indicated everyone else living was attended
to.  I still hadn't seen any EMTs or ambulances.   I had so much blood on me
that people kept asking me if I was ok.  but that was all other people's
blood.  eventually (an hour and a half to two hours after the shootings)
they  started landing choppers.  they took out the big African American guy
and the shooter.  I guess the ambulatory wounded were all at the SRP
building.  Everyone else in my area was dead.
I suppose the emergency responders were told there were multiple shooters.
I heard that was the delay with the choppers (they were all civilian
helicopters).  they needed a secure LZ.  but other than the initial cops who
did everything right, I didn't' see a lot of them for a while.  I did see
many a soldier rush out to help their fellows/sisters.  there was one female
soldier, I don't' know her name or rank but I would recognize her anywhere
who was everywhere helping people.  a couple people, mainly civilians, were
hysterical, but only a couple.  one civilian freaked out when I tried to
comfort her when she saw my uniform.  I guess she had seen the shooter up
close.  a lot of soldiers were rushing out to help even when we thought
there was another gunman out there.  this Army is not broken no matter what
the pundits say.  not the Army I saw.  and then they kept me for a long time
to come.  oh, and perhaps the most surreal thing, at 1500 (the end of the
workday on Thursdays) when the bugle sounded we all came to attention and
saluted the flag.  in the middle of it all.  this is what I saw.  it can't
have been real.  but this is my small corner of what happened


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From: Zebnick <zebn...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:25:38 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon 9 Nov 2009 05:25
Subject: Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
He's a spawn of foreign Muslims. He never associated himself with this
country. He should have been beaten to death with a bat as a child.

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From: Hollywood <jims29...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:21:20 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon 9 Nov 2009 16:21
Subject: Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
KIT,

Uhm.....KIT? You are full of it. My quote was factual and accurate and
there's not a damn thing you can do to sanely refute it.
 Maj. Hasan WAS born and raised in the U.S. YES OR NO?
 THAT makes him lwgally an Ameican citizen. YES OR NO?
  He has committed a terrible crime(s). YES OR NO?

So, what are you whining about concerning my post? YOU saying I MUST
express myself in a certain manner and that I MUST use certain terms
to describe certain people or situations or risk ridicule or censure
is the very definition of "Politically Correct". What? You thinbk you
lads "own" the dictionary or something? LOL!

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From: Hollywood <jims29...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:26:30 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon 9 Nov 2009 16:26
Subject: Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
Zeb,

Face it Zeb, you're overly emotional. Maj. Hasan was born here, he
went to school here, he was/is a U.S. Army Officer. Now, I most
sincerely hope and pray that he is found guilty of his crimes under
the UCMJ and executed for them. The facts of the case are bad enough,
no need for you to get all hysterical with your hatred of Muslims.

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From: Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:50:07 -0500
Local: Mon 9 Nov 2009 16:50
Subject: Re: Fort Hood's 9/11

Holly,

It just goes to show, that you want to ignore the true facts.

That you ignore the fact that Hassan got up on a table, and yelled, "Praise
Allah" as well as some other Islamic jibberish that we have all become
accustomed to hearing before one of these terrorists goes off  on a
murdering spree.

That you ignore the fact that prior to his terroristic murdering spree
against 13 soldiers at their own home, Hassan was passing out Qu'orans in
his neighborhood, dressed in a white tunic, (as many radical fundamental
Islamic terrorist do prior to their murdering spree) in order to show purity
to Allah.

If in fact, this had been a Christian who chose to go into an abortion
clinic, and yelled, "Praise God";  you of all people would be the first one
claiming that the Christian was a terrorist.

Typical far left hypocracy, all in the name of Political Correctness.
There is no denying it, and you continue to support such tripe.

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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:05:23 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
I most
sincerely hope and pray that he is found guilty of his crimes under
the UCMJ and executed for them
----
good
but not until after he is tortured to find his cohorts

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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:31:44 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon 9 Nov 2009 17:31
Subject: Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
I don't hate Muslims, fool. I hate Muslim terrorists. You do know the
difference, don't you? Probably not.

There is a book called American Jihad. You should read it. Then you
won't be so naive as to say "he was born here", as if that makes him a
loyal American. Hell, many of our liberals are born here and are
fiercely anti-American.  AKA Obama voters.

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From: Hollywood <jims29...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:44:51 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon 9 Nov 2009 18:44
Subject: Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
KIT,

There you go with your PC mania, telling me what I am allowed to say
and what I am not. Please explain to me how my saying "I hope and pray
he is executed for his crimes" show that I am ignoring anything? Grow
up,   you should realize by now that I'm not about to join in your
childish hysterics.

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From: Hollywood <jims29...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:46:13 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
plain,

No evidence he has/had any cohorts. This is not 1st century Rome, we
do not torture people for the amusement of sadistic morons.

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From: Hollywood <jims29...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:51:38 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon 9 Nov 2009 18:51
Subject: Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
Zeb,

Your own words make you a liar. You too dumb to understand your own
posts?

<<<He's a spawn of foreign Muslims>>> Gee, most people have children,
NOT SPAWN. Unless your 100% pure Native American we ALL have a
foreigner in the family tree.

<<<<He should have been beaten to death with a bat as a child>>> Why?
He'd committed no  crimes as a toddler.

Yeah, you lying POS, you hate Muslims.

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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:08:49 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Fort Hood's 9/11
we
do not torture people for the amusement of sadistic morons.
---
right
we torture for information about other terrorists

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