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Our Problem is Immorality
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Subject: Re: Our Problem is Immorality
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On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:07 AM, M.A. Johnson <micha...@america.net> wrote:
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> *I am all too afraid that a historian, a hundred years from now, will
> footnote America as a historical curiosity where people once enjoyed private
> property rights and limited government but it all returned to mankind's
> normal state of affairs -- arbitrary abuse and control by the powerful
> elite.
>
Mr Williams is one of my favorite columnists.
Unfortunately, he may be right about this.
"Unfortunately, there is no way out of our immoral quagmire. The reason is
that now that the U.S. Congress has established the principle that one
American has a right to live at the expense of another American, it no
longer pays to be moral. People who choose to be moral and refuse
congressional handouts will find themselves losers. They'll be paying higher
and higher taxes to support increasing numbers of those paying lower and
lower taxes. As it stands now, close to 50 percent of income earners have no
federal income tax liability and as such, what do they care about rising
income taxes? In other words, once legalized theft begins, it becomes too
costly to remain moral and self-sufficient. You might as well join in the
looting, including the current looting in the name of stimulating the
economy. "
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> http://townhall.com/columnists/WalterEWilliams/2009/04/01/our_problem_is_immorality
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:07 AM, M.A. Johnson <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:micha...@america.net">michaelj@america=
.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><i><br></i>I am all too afraid that a historian, a hundred years from =
now, will footnote America as a historical curiosity where people once enjo=
yed private property rights and limited government but it all returned to m=
ankind's normal state of affairs -- arbitrary abuse and control by the =
powerful elite. </div>
</blockquote>
<div>Mr Williams is one of my favorite columnists.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Unfortunately, he may be right about this.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>"Unfortunately, there is no way out of our immoral quagmire. The =
reason is that now that the U.S. Congress has established the principle tha=
t one American has a right to live at the expense of another American, it n=
o longer pays to be moral. People who choose to be moral and refuse congres=
sional handouts will find themselves losers. They'll be paying higher a=
nd higher taxes to support increasing numbers of those paying lower and low=
er taxes. As it stands now, close to 50 percent of income earners have no f=
ederal income tax liability and as such, what do they care about rising inc=
ome taxes? In other words, once legalized theft begins, it becomes too cost=
ly to remain moral and self-sufficient. You might as well join in the looti=
ng, including the current looting in the name of stimulating the economy. &=
quot;</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div><span id=3D""></span><br><br><br><br><a href=3D"http://townhall.com/co=
lumnists/WalterEWilliams/2009/04/01/our_problem_is_immorality" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://townhall.com/columnists/WalterEWilliams/2009/04/01/our_problem=
_is_immorality</a> <br>
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