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Doc Holliday  
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 More options 25 Apr, 04:24
From: Doc Holliday <dokholli...@bellsouth.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:24:17 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat 25 Apr 2009 04:24
Subject: Re: OBAMA POSITIONING FOR BACK DOOR GUN CONTROL
Bill you are sooooo full of shit.............."remember" I voted
independent

Peace,
Doc

On Apr 24, 12:52 am, Bill <sean_sann...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> You like him he's your man......remember?  He's so much better than
> Bush....right?

> I been trying to tell you that this guy is a fraud, but all you do is
> bitch about Bush and the Republicans.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

> Bill

> On Apr 23, 8:26 pm, Doc Holliday <dokholli...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> > Begin>

> >  OBAMA POSITIONING FOR BACK DOOR GUN CONTROL

> > By Chuck Baldwin
> > April 24, 2009
> > NewsWithViews.com

> > On his recent trip to Central America, President Barack Obama did more
> > than cozy up to Marxist dictators; he also signed onto an
> > international treaty that could, in effect, be used as backdoor gun
> > control. It appears that Obama wants to use international treaties to
> > do what congressional legislation is not able to do: further restrict
> > the right of the American people to keep and bear arms.

> > Obama is using the oft-disproved contention that "90% of the guns
> > recovered in Mexico come from the United States" as the stated basis
> > of his support for the international treaty he is promoting. The
> > treaty is formally known as the Inter-American Convention Against the
> > Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition,
> > Explosives and Other Related Materials (CIFTA) treaty. The Bill
> > Clinton administration signed the treaty back in 1997, but the U.S.
> > Senate has never ratified the treaty. Obama intends to change that.

> > To date, 33 nations in the western hemisphere have signed the treaty.
> > The U.S. is one of four nations that have yet to ratify it. According
> > to one senior Obama administration official, passing the treaty is a
> > "high priority" for the President.

> > If ratified, the treaty would require the United States to adopt
> > "strict licensing requirements, mark firearms when they are made and
> > imported to make them easier to trace, and establish a process for
> > sharing information between national law enforcement agencies
> > investigating [gun] smuggling."

> > Senator John Kerry, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee
> > promises to "work for its [the CIFTA treaty's] approval by the
> > Senate."

> > Should the Senate ratify CIFTA, Americans who reload ammunition would
> > be required to get a license from the government, and factory guns and
> > ammunition would be priced almost out of existence due to governmental
> > requirements to "mark" each one manufactured. Even the simple act of
> > adding an after-market piece of equipment to a firearm, such as a
> > scope or bipod, or reassembling a gun after cleaning it could fall
> > into the category of "illicit manufacturing" of firearms and require
> > government license and oversight.

> > In addition, CIFTA would authorize the U.S. federal government (and
> > open the door to international entities) to supervise and regulate
> > virtually the entire American firearms industry. Making matters worse
> > is the fact that, as a treaty, this Act does not have to be passed by
> > both houses of Congress, nor is it subject to judicial oversight. All
> > Obama needs to do in order to enact this unconstitutional and
> > egregious form of gun control is convince a Democratic-controlled
> > Senate to pass it.

> > Obviously, the United Nations, from its very inception, has been one
> > of the world's most ardent gun control proponents. As anyone who has
> > ever driven by the U.N. building in New York City knows, a huge statue
> > of an American-made revolver with its barrel twisted in the shape of a
> > pretzel greets every visitor. The CIFTA treaty is one of the U.N.'s
> > pet projects in order to achieve this long-held ambition.

> > Of course, Obama is a longtime liberal radical when it comes to the
> > Second Amendment. As a senator, he voted against the Second Amendment
> > at every opportunity. He has never seen a piece of gun control
> > legislation that he did not support. And as I have said before in this
> > column, gun control is high on the list of priorities for the newly
> > elected President Barack Obama.

> > For Obama to intimate that 90% of the firearms used by Mexican drug
> > cartels come from the United States reveals either a truly dishonest
> > and deceptive mind or a totally misinformed and naļve one. Many
> > studies have thoroughly debunked the 90% myth, including one by
> > William La Jeunesse and Maxim Lott in a recent Fox News report.
> > According to these researchers, the real number is closer to 17%.

> > According to La Jeunesse and Lott, Mexican drug cartels, which control
> > billions of dollars, obtain the overwhelming majority of their guns
> > from the Black Market, Russian crime syndicates, South America, China,
> > Guatemala, and even from the Mexican army.

> > In fact, Mexico is a virtual arms bazaar: AK-47s from China;
> > fragmentation grenades from South Korea; shoulder-fired rocket
> > launchers from Spain, Israel and former Soviet bloc dealers; assault
> > weapons from China; and explosives from Korea--just to name a few
> > sources.

> > Advertisement

> > In addition, according to Mexican Congressman Robert Badillo, more
> > than 150,000 Mexican soldiers have deserted in just the last six
> > years. The vast majority of them took their weapons with them,
> > including the standard issue M-16 assault rifle made in Belgium.

> > And please do not forget that corruption within the Mexican government
> > is rampant. Many news sources have covered stories of how drug cartels
> > bribe Mexican officials. An article in the New York Times last year
> > reported, "One of Mexico's most notorious drug cartels made huge cash
> > payments to officials in the Mexican attorney general's office in
> > exchange for confidential information on anti-drug operations . . .
> > the cartel might have had an informant inside the American embassy."

> > The Mexican drug cartels control a multi-billion dollar enterprise
> > that has more than enough resources to obtain planeloads of weapons
> > from all over the world. For Obama to assert that 90% of the Mexican
> > drug cartels' firearms come from the United States is a bald-faced
> > lie! Again, either Obama is stupid and naļve or he is deliberately
> > lying to the American people in order to "sell" the CIFTA treaty to
> > the U.S. Senate. I think we all know that Mr. Obama is anything but
> > stupid and naļve.

> > Read more about the CIFTA treaty here.

> > In addition to the CIFTA treaty, liberal Chicago Democrat Congressman
> > Bobby Rush has introduced H.R. 45 in the House of Representatives.
> > This bill is anything but subtle. It is an in-your-face gun control
> > bill that would make "Mr. Gun Control," the late Senator Howard
> > Metzenbaum, shout Hallelujah.

> > H.R. 45 would require a federal license for all handguns and
> > semiautomatics, including the ones you already possess. It would
> > require handgun and semi-auto owners to be thumbprinted at a police
> > station and sign a certificate that the gun will not be kept in a
> > place where it could be used for the defense of the gun owner's
> > family.

> > Read more about H.R. 45 here.

> > In all likelihood, H.R. 45 is probably a long shot at passing both
> > houses of Congress, albeit gun owners should never take any proposed
> > gun control bill for granted. The CIFTA treaty, however, is much more
> > dangerous due to its subtlety and subterfuge, the less cumbersome
> > process of passage, and the fact that it makes U.S. gun owners subject
> > to international gun control laws.

> > All in all, freedom in America is on the Obama White House chopping
> > block. And this much is certain: if the American people do not retain
> > the right to keep and bear arms, every other freedom we hold dear will
> > quickly disappear as well. Moreover, if we do retain the right to keep
> > and bear arms, it will only be because enough of us--and our state and
> > federal legislators--resist the tyrannical gun control machinations of
> > Barack Obama. And that means defeating the CIFTA treaty and H.R.
> > 45.>end snip

> > Peace,
> > Doc


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